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Text Truncated. Only the first 1MB is shown below. Download the file for the complete contents. **** Conference [ 62] - (Fido) Planet Connect From: LES TURNER Number: 1 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 7:56a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ==>: In a brief moment of insanity, Kim Bergman told All: KB> Hello All, KB> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need KB> to be sat in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana KB> nana boo boo stuff. The rest of us don't care whether you KB> Kim I certainly would have liked to quote the whole message and replied with a resounding: YEAH! Take That! I agree completely.... I dont understand why we cant exist peacefully in cyberspace. After all there is _PLENTY_ of room for everyone! Les --- RA201-FMail96-Intermail * Origin: CW Technical Support - South Bend, IN - (219) 272-8133 (1:227/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM FARKAS Number: 2 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 5:45a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of being average. Adam --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 3 To: ALL Date: 03/15/94 8:37p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up for freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multiple passes at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me know if there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. Marty --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 4 To: ALL WC SYSOPS Date: 03/20/94 4:05p Subj: Preraid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! After the frustation of unable to use Raid with our planect connect hub. I have written a little utility that will allow you to use raid in a multipass emvironment similiar to the way you have to run wcff. It is called preraid. Freqable here as majic name of Preraid or as filename of Prerd_11.arj. Marty --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 5 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/21/94 9:22a Subj: Preraid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello All! -> -> After the frustation of unable to use Raid with our planect connect h -> I have written a little utility that will allow you to use raid in a -> emvironment similiar to the way you have to run wcff. -> It is called preraid. Freqable here as majic name of Preraid or as fi -> Prerd_11.arj. -> -> Just a plug here Program works great. The reason all of you will need this program is.....If you get all the files via the filebone and especially if you run WCFF, you will find that you have to have 3 or more cfg files, like .cf1, .cf2, .cf3 and writhe them to a cfg to process. To do this Raid will not work. This program addresses this problem and makes it WORK. Can freq it here at 28,800 Prerd_11.arj. ANd thanks Marty!!! Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 6 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/24/94 4:47p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for -> requesting file echo's? Raid works fine but if you have to use Multiple .cfg files you will need PRERAID. Only available on net 398. FReq here at 28,8. Magic file name PRERAID Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 7 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 03/25/94 7:01p Subj: A Few Questions From A Ne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FF> TF>*@SUBJECT:A few questions from a newbie FF> And I'd suggest you turn on PCSITES and PCSTATS, if you haven't already. FF> Both are for just dish site sysops... Hope this helps, Tim. Thanks for the answers to my questions. I have the above turned on of course, it was those little things that as a newbie, you are not quite sure if it is ok to do. Looks like it is working ok then. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 8 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 9:38a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to be sat -> corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana boo boo stuff. The -> don't care whether you can set up a mailer in 15 seconds, have made i -> number x on some list in somebody's rag, have 143 gigs online, 24 lin -> with RIP, whatever. Mudslinging is mudslinging and your mud is no le -> distasteful than any one else's. And if you can't suppress your chi -> to flame me over this then go ahead but don't expect an equally chidi -> response. The best you can expect is a lowering of my esteem for you -> as the esteem the other adults in this echo may have for you. -> Did I miss something here, Maybe I am not getting all the mail in this echo. :) Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 9 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 03/26/94 6:53p Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Thus spake Jerry Nolte: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? There are a few ways. I run GIGO as a gateway - it's a great programme btw - to convert *.BAG to *.PKT appearing from an address that is my Internet Gateway address. I whack those through PKTSORT to produce ordered *.PKT at about 2MB sizes (one huge packet is a bit too inflexible). That's produced on the network node that deals with the sat. downlink. It's dumped across the network to a protected inbound. I use FastEcho with a secondary enviornment variable set to deal just with Usenet (i.e. it points to a different FASTECHO.CFG file with different protected inbound and a unique default group structure for my logical gateway address. That allows all the incoming Usenet stuff to be autocreated as necessary as new JAM areas automatically on the fly without affecting FTN stuff (which will be processed with a different *.CFG file as the batch file sets a different FE enviornment variable. Setting it up that way, and using the mapping file in Gigo to do one hierarchy at a time initially with a unique group in FastEcho made it possible to autoinstall Usenet into the BBS with no work at all at my end other than to edit the default autocreate stuff for FastEcho and the mapping file for each hierarchy I wanted. Running GIGO in test mode so the bag files were preserved allowed a basic setup to be created in a few hours of processing time and a few minutes of my time. From there on it is more or lesss self maintaining. (tinker with the mapping file as you want, and leave a new default group for autoadded areas that you can then deal with as you want. Everything has to be JAM of course, and HMBLOCK should be set in the enviornment to something reasonable (I have it at 10) if you are tossing inbound while nodes are up (which presumabely you want to be). [Otherwise FastEcho won't let anyone log on until it unlocks the message base at the end of each packet; HMBLOCK overrides that and checks every - in this case - 10 seconds if someone is trying to log on on any node. Set up appropriately, you can toss without any real degredation for callers on line, so you don't have to be too agressive. I think it takes me 30 min to process a full FidoNet feed plus most of the current Newsgroups on a 386/40 with 3 other tasks running. A dedicated instance of FastEcho should process at something like 50 messages a second if you want to stick another 386/40 as a mail processer on the network. Sorting packets helps, and processing all the *.BAG files at one pass with a big (>8MB) window size on PKTSORT will give performance way beyond that, as will throwing memory at FastEcho and using standard tricks like tossing from one physical drive to another physical drive. I find it faster to preprosses on a network node and copy to the main BBS system than actually toss across the network by a long shot. As to *.BAG > *PKT .I find GIGO plenty fast with video and logging off (it's simply running on a network node that does nothing but download from the disk and preprocess mail packets and *.TIC stuff when a cycle finishes.) As far as the RA stuff goes, I can give you very specific help in a FastEcho enviornment. (I'm a beta/registration site for the product, and *real* serious about getting it working well with R.A. and Newsgroups. In general, R.A. and a half decent JAM tosser/scanner will function o.k. with Newsgroups and heavy mail feeds in general. I'm running just over 4000 message areas and process about 70 MB of inbound mail a day from all sources. The next generation of JAM tossers will be even better :-). (I have to chuckle when I read Mac's messages about Wildcat!/Wildmail) GIGO will give you Internet mail and outbound usenet stuff transparently, and if FSC-35 is turned *off* in gateway.cfg you can set up a netmail area in RA that will transparently work as an Internet mail area, picking up the reply address correctly if your users want to reply. Give your well liked users access to names.ctl, and you can set up macros to make addressing tranparent to their normal corespondents, and use the /N= paramater in the 'enter message optional data field' for the enter internet mail menu item to point to the FTN address of your logical gateway, and RA/GIGO will do everything automatically. Slick as the dickens. Netmail will be addressed to the gateway, and if you've ensured that they can't set crash status by making the security sufficiently high, on exit scan out netmail to your gateway address, pack it, run gigo, and run UUCICO or whatever to fire it to your UUCP host.) Conference mail>newsgroups is more straight forward of course. If you want to cost control Internet mail, you can simply add your gateway address to ranode's control file in the approriate way, and that will be automatic as well. Alex astuart@qleap.com --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 10 To: STEVE MOSS Date: 03/27/94 1:14a Subj: Offline mail reader Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SMUse them both and pick the best one for *you*..! They each have their SMindividual strengths and weaknesses. I'm a registered user of both SMprograms, and WaveRider fits my usage better at this time. Before SMmaking SMyour final decision, use the most recent public versions of both SMprograms. SMWaveRider v1.10 SMCmpQwk v1.31 Didn't I read somewhere about a version 1.41 of CMPqwk that had considerable new features, bug fixes? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- QM v1.31 * Origin: HighSierra Online - Lake Tahoe CA (916) 577-4438 (1:203/8888.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 11 To: FORREST RAYBURN Date: 03/27/94 1:17a Subj: Cmpqwk Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FR No matter who you ask about OLR's you will get the same answer. Try FRthem both, compare them, and then pick the one that will meet your FRneeds, wants, and desires. FR <== Forrest ==> I think you are probably right, there just seem to be so many and I though it might be useful if someone who has experience with almost all of them could post a little pros/cons message about the relative features of each like: WaveRDR: solid/bluewave & QWK support, truncates quoting CMPQWK: ?????????? Paperboy: provides built in ANSI w/out external viewer, very configurable, database export, buggy in current BETA VBReader: ??????????????????? ?????????? Can anyone fill in the wholes here? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- QM v1.31 * Origin: HighSierra Online - Lake Tahoe CA (916) 577-4438 (1:203/8888.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 12 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 03/26/94 10:44a Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Nolte writes: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? If you are running at least a 386 with a couple megs of memory, my internet/fidonet gateway program will convert bags. It will convert .BAG files into .PKT files, and treat them just like echomail. In addition, should you make arrangements with a usenet provider for the return traffic, you'll already be most of the way configured to handle it. :-) How to get the most recent version of GIGO: *Note* GIGO requires a 386sx or greater. It also requires a 2 meg machine; possibly more memory if you are disk caching etc. 1: Fidonet style file request to 1:203/7707 (1-916-484-0934) for "GIGO". My system is running a USR Sportster v32b 14400 modem, if modem compatabilities are an issue. Alternatively, send your request to 1:203/8055, which is a USR Dual Standard, with HST mode going up to 16800. 2: By email; send email to fileserv@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com, message body "GET GIGO". The file will be sent uuencoded back to you. Note that if you are using a .fidonet.org address, the gateway will not honor the request, as to prevent file routing in fidonet, a bad-bad-no-no. All other addresses will be honored. 3: Via the internet, using FTP: ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler This site is the first site to get any new version. Copies are also sent to ftp.fidonet.org and to ftp.halycom.com, but will usually be as many as a few days behind. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g2+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 13 To: DALE WOOD Date: 03/27/94 10:54a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. DW> Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That DW> would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one machine. DW> DW> DW> DOS=HIGH If you are running DV, try taking that line out and letting DV use the HMA area. DV will use it all where as DOS will only use a portion of it. Per the DV docs, your milage will vary, but if you can work on that area of it, you might get a few extra k to bring you above 500k per window. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 14 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 8:21p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2604/99 not authorized to create area 'NJFORSALE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 266/22 not authorized to create area 'FTSC' Address 140/201 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'SWARE348' Address 234/100 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'WORDPLAGUE' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_CURRENT' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_MODERATOR' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_VIRUSTROJAN' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_BBSTECH' Address 342/666 not authorized to create area 'BITCH' Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 215/215 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 231/285 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 229/2 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2260/1 not authorized to create area 'HAM_SALE' Address 2260/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 154/100 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 18/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 105/103 not authorized to create area 'CASCADE.SCOUT' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'CLONE' Address 3406/15 not authorized to create area 'BUY&SELL' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 232/39 not authorized to create area 'R11FORSALE' Address 106/737 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 323/150 not authorized to create area 'NUT-HOUSE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3611/15 not authorized to create area 'DVNET' Address 157/110 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 370/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'DEV_SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION150' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3622/1000 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 3817/1 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 107/33 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3603/20 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 134/10 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 2619/50 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19SYSOP' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19_CHAT' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19COORD' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'R19SYSOP' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'HUMANITIES' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'FM-GENEALOGIE' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'ALZHEIMERS' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 15 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 8:55p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Brian! Sunday March 27 1994 03:42, Brian Stein wrote to All: BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> BS> Brian BS> BS> -+- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) BS> + Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) = o /-_ = o = _>(_) = _ /-_ .............(_) ...........(_)>(_) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hurry up and send in your Reply by Wed the 31th. :-) Got you message here in Central Texas on Sunday 27th around 10:am.. is that Fast enough??? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT CURRY Number: 16 To: ALL Date: 03/18/94 9:52p Subj: Missed Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone clear up the missed transmission deal for me? I understand that PC transmits all the files several times a day. Do you have to do any special processing to get the ones you missed the first time or anything? Does the system automatically know you missed packet 37 of 100 or something like that and it will only toss #37 the second time around? I haven't received my video tape yet and I'm still a little hazy on some of these areas. :) Thanks. PC --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pat's Shop BBS * (706) 882-2487 (1:3656/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 17 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 03/27/94 9:37p Subj: Re: reciever????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Martin Belcke babbled to Mark Adkins <on 03/26/94>: MB} -> Okay now that we have the tech part over with, what are you going to MB} -> the decoder if you don't have this chip/circuit in it? MB} Return it, if and when I no longer need it, as per the contract I MB} signed. You purchased the receiver. It is yours to do with as you wish. But, should you ever decide to drop Planet Connect, you would have to return the decoding chip inside the receiver. That chip (and its programming) is the property of PC, but the receiver itself is yours. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 18 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 03/27/94 11:45p Subj: Re: Reciever????? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> Okay now that we have the tech part over with, what are you going to ->> the decoder if you don't have this chip/circuit in it? MB> Return it, if and when I no longer need it, as per the contract MB> I signed. I think that's wrong, Martin, at least with the contract I have. It states that the Dongle and the Proprietary chip and the Software is what has to be returned, should you discontinue your feed ... NOT the data receiver itself. In fact, many, many services use that SAME data receiver. --jah ... If Bill & Hilary get divorced, who gets the House? --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 19 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/23/94 7:54a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying behavior. Thank you, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 20 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 03/23/94 4:36p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> How about just taking the list from the echo and edit DP>it... DP> then add it to the bottem of the FIDONET.NA..? I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I would have a good case against him. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 21 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/26/94 10:42p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Kim Bergman Was Heard Saying This To All: KB>Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to KB>be sat in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana KB>boo boo stuff. The rest of us don't care whether you can set I believe that is "na nana boo boo" :=) Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 22 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/27/94 10:47a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing on different message platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is there any document that treats this subject for beginners? Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own and would like to develope a final signature and get on with it. One that is OK for both FidoNet and Internet would be best. Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 23 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 03/27/94 10:49a Subj: FIDONET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RA> Where do I send the check? :-) Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 24 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 03/27/94 4:27p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TIMOTHY WAGONER wrote in a message to CRAIG CLARK: TW> What system are you running. I am running Wildcat 3.9. Will TW> allfix work for me? If so where can it be gotten at. I have TW> many CD's, would it be on any of them. I'm running Maximus and I'm really not sure if it will work for you or not. Check out the ALLFIX echo if you've got it. The North American distribution site is 1:138/193; you should be able to freq a copy from there. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 25 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/27/94 12:17p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Dunmyer wrote in a message to John Le Duc: JD> Actually, if you define "successful" as busy with lots of JD> callers, it is much harder to be "successful" and charge for JD> access. As another operator of a "free" system said, "Why JD> should anyone have to call a pay board when they can get it JD> for free on mine?" The answer is, the pay board has to have JD> something that a free board doesn't. And a "successful" one JD> does. Sounds like your saying that only a pay board can be successful <G>. The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system (free or pay) which carried the services I was looking for (as a caller). The discussion here seems to imply that Doors make a system...doesn't anyone care about 'other services'? Around Vegas, systems with online games are 5 for a nickle, 12 to the dime...but as more people are getting to computing as a serious extension of their work or 'other' hobbie, I think you'll find that the number of online games a system has will be less a measure of sucess and more a measure of the sysop's desperation to attract callers. There will always be room for boards that provide in-depth support for areas of special interest....somthing that a pay board cannot afford to do. A pay board that specialized in, for example, Ham radio would have a tough time making it, but there is STILL a place for such a board...even if the board is (gasp) a free one. Running a sucessful free system, which provides extensive support for a special interest, is no cheaper than running a generalized system with a bunch of kiddy doors...to the contrary. It is also no less demanding on the sysop. The level of interaction and user help required is at best, the same. Nor can such a specialized system simply depend on the PC to provide "enough echos and files to satisfy the callers who get enough of the games", rather the sysop is spending about the same amount in long distance charges as before PC, because PC limits it Fido feed to the backbone only and neglects most of the special interests. Like a pay board, PC is primarily concerned with those services which cost them the least, yet look good on the list of services....I'm suprised that PC hasn't figured out how to put up online games ...you know, to attract 'callers'. Then again, PC doesn't have any compatetion..........yet. Interestingly, Las Vegas has fallen into the same trap....all glitz and flash with no substance. A bit of compatition wouldn't hurt, from the standpoint of forcing a bit of substance back into the picture. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES NERLINGER Number: 26 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 1:51p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, can you list the services/charges that PC is now offering? I am especially interested in InterNet and the quantities coming through. James. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Access Information Services --> FIDONet (1:108/155) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 27 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 2:24a Subj: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I have written 3 utilities that I use to handle the mail and files after PCFU sends them to my Toss directory. MailMove will move bundles of mail 1 to all of them for tossing from the Toss dir to the Process dir for the mail tosser to toss them, TicMove will move the .tic and it's companopn file only if both are present in the Toss dir to the Process Dir and MakeWcff then reads the .tic files and compares the info to it's configuration files and writes WCFF.CFG on the fly. The results of these files have helped me to complety automate everything except the few files or .tic's left behind which after they get 4 or 5 days old a del *.* works fine on them. Anyone who wants to try these files and use them may freq MAILFILE.ZIP at almost anytime at 14.4 from the orgin line below. I have been using all these files for the past month now and they seem to do what they are written for. That is to automate the Planet Connect files and mail processing. If you use WCFF from OCR then I think you will like MAKEWCFF and TICMOVE. Magic Name MAILFILE Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 28 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 03/23/94 8:44p Subj: Prices Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Greg! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/18/94> Greg Shaffer wrote: GS> Jeff Bowman wrote in a message to All: GS> Nothing.....The files are free to PC systems.....Your callers will have t GS> a subscription rate (I dont recall the amount) in order to get the softwa GS> that reads the files. You as a PC subscriber get a free copy. GS> JB> Now, what is this going to cost me / month GS> Add it up....:) Thanks, This helps out alot... Appreciate the time <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 29 To: ALL Date: 03/23/94 9:29p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! After the proposal of going REALTIME. I built another machine for the dish. As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it all over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * MSI - Connecting The World In '94 --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 30 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/23/94 10:04p Subj: newsgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Could you me and some other wildcat sysops and see if you can get alt.bbs.wildcat and alt.bbs.qmodem for us.. PLEASE <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ■ SLMR 1.05 ■ Regardless of what you may think, this is NOT --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 31 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/26/94 2:52p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mac! In a message to All <03/20/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello, Folks! MB> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: MB> Wildcat 3.9 MB> Lantastic 5.0 MB> DESQview/QEMM (latest) MB> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) MB> Does such a critter exist? <g> her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will toss 380-600 message per minute <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 32 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/27/94 2:06p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > A lot depends on what your market will bear. What the competition in > your area is doing and offering, and what it costs you to present Oh, I'm by far the most expensive in my area as far as I know, but I'm not meeting my costs, plus it appears that comparable boards in other areas are far more costly (to subscribers) than mine. I don't mind losing some callers if the return is greater. :-) --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 33 To: MICHAEL ANDREWS Date: 03/27/94 9:53p Subj: PC w/2ComPorts and SCSI card Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Michael! Monday March 21 1994 00:44, Michael Andrews wrote to All: MA> Question, what would be a good IRQ for COM3. MA> My ports area as follows: MA> adr irq MA> COM1 MotherBoard - 3F8 4 Mouse MA> COM2 Serial card 1st port - 2F8 3 Modem MA> COM3 Serial card 2nd port - 3E8 ? MA> Adaptec SCSI - 5 MA> SoundBlaster Pro - 7 I have a similiar setup and I use COM 4 on IRQ 2, which the computer moves to IRQ 9... I actually use: Com 1 IRQ 4, Com 2, IRQ 3, Com 3 IRQ 5, Com 4 IRQ 2, Sound Card IRQ 10 and Printer IRQ 7. This all seems to work fine under OS/2 2.1, and did under DOS with DESQview 2.62, and X00 & VX00 -- Good Luck! Chris --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower of High Sorcery - Conway, AR - echoes via satellite! (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 34 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/28/94 4:45a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello All, -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be thi -> This thread is disgusting! >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONNIE TOTH Number: 35 To: RADIST INTERESTS Date: 03/28/94 10:47a Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! Effective April 1, 1994 Barring Unforseen Difficulties RADIST will be RADISTributing via Planet Connect! Ronnie Toth RADIST * HQ * --- * Origin: Sox! Live from Hialeah_FL_USA (305) 821-3317 (1:135/71) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 36 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 2:00a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? P.S. Have a nice day! ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 37 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 2:05a Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone > seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 Ohhhhh! I got a few coming. > echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could > happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I I am not try to start anything. I guess thinking that it might be something worth while carrying is a crime here in the good U.S. of A. > just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed > I would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I > think I would have a good case against him. Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POSTLINK#1646 (EARTHART) Number: 38 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 03/26/94 2:01a Subj: Routing Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Message #2538 to CHUCK WARREN with a subject of Testing..... was not sent out due to the following error in your routing instructions: This : name not found in dictionary. --- * Earth Art BBS! * N.Charleston, SC * (803)552-4389 * 16.8 Duals! * PostLink(tm) v1.11 EARTHART (#1646) : RelayNet(tm) --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff138/a] * Origin: Earth Art BBS! * GreenNet! * (803) 552-4389 Dual 57.6 (1:372/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 39 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:50p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: 19 Read: NO Private: No -> system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infra -> once! This is considered annoying behavior. Stop whining. If you don't like the Planet Connect service, don't use it. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 40 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 03/29/94 7:25p Subj: Services Refer: 34 Read: NO Private: No -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be -> -> This thread is disgusting! -> >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! -> Fred I recently moved and it was only a few days ago that I got my new node number and got settled into my new house. Cut me some slack. You want to be moderated? I can be the biggest S.O.B. moderator you've ever seen if that's what you want. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 41 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:20p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 36 Read: NO Private: No -> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat -> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. There's more to life than these echos. The only thing worse than an echo cluttered with flames is an echo where everyone is afraid to post out of fear of being reprimanded by the moderator. My lack of moderating is *how* I moderate. EOT. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 43 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 9:57p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday > the 31st. Brian, Comming in here in Sunny Florida. Thomas Kinnen Thomas.Kinnen@sobhrach.com --- InterMail 2.21 * Origin: Tom's Laptop Control Center, On The Road, U.S.A. (1:371/3901.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY NOLTE Number: 44 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/28/94 7:19a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Little to All <=- JL> Hello All! JL> Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. Got it here guy! ... Jerry's Place BBS *We have it ALL!* 717-491-5113/4868 --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Jerry's Place BBS 1:268/10 *We Have it ALL!* 717-491-5113 (1:268/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY NOLTE Number: 45 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/28/94 7:19a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Brian Stein to All <=- BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> Brian Got It Here! Jerry ... Jerry's Place BBS *We have it ALL!* 717-491-5113/4868 --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Jerry's Place BBS 1:268/10 *We Have it ALL!* 717-491-5113 (1:268/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 46 To: JAMES NERLINGER Date: 03/28/94 5:55p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JN> Boyd, can you list the services/charges that PC is now offering? I am JN> especially interested in InterNet and the quantities coming through. FidoNet Conference and file areas CDN Family Net K12 Freeway FDN's including: Association of Shareware Professionals Windows Application Network Shareware Distribution Network Author Direct Network Connect BBS CRS-Online French Net Global Net Health Care Net Intelec Major Net Rosenet-includes Microsoft TvAgent U n I net Rime Ilink (testing) IGA This is the Basic subscription listing that is $30 per month on a yearly contract with not refeeding status. Internet Usenet Groups.....by themselves...$30 per month yearly with Basic.........$20 per month yearly Weather..$5 per month up to 5 phone lines, $1 per line after... USAtoday Decision Line....$3 per month per phone line..$25 monthly minimum. Check the PRICES.TXT for details, and the SKYDATA\PERSONAL for the latest updates on these areas. The Internet Usenet groups are currently ramped up in quanity. We are working with our provider to provide more of these groups and this will take a little time, please be patient, we are working hard to upgrade this feed. Johnny Green, Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 47 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 1:36p Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I haven't been following this echo lately, but a while back there was alot of discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having a way to send replies back to PC. Boyd indicated that they were working on setting up an address for us so theat this would be possible. Has this been done? I've been waiting for this so I could start receiving the feed. Has anything been done? Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 48 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/26/94 7:48p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: John Little on Fri Mar 25 1994 08:26 pm > Hello All! > > Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. > > Thanks, > John > --- > * Origin: Split HoriZons*(905)276-4276/6466*1.7Gigs (1:259/300) John, it made it to Alburqurque, New Mexico on the 26th. Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 49 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/27/94 12:42p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: Brian Stein on Sun Mar 27 1994 03:42 am > This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. > > Brian > > --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) > * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) You made it into Alburqurque, New Mexico on the 27th! Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 50 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 3:45p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: ky_da da da BY: Murry Francis to Boyd Goodin on Wed Mar 23 1994 07:54 amn > Boyd, > > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT want > nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 echos Bad > echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mi > in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on my > system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on your > system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create on your > system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions > once! This is considered annoying behavior. > > Thank you, > Murry > > --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. > * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) Are you kidding? No where does it say that they cannot add this. It fact, I hope they keep doing it! You have no choice in this matter. If you don't like their service then drop them. But the rest of us like these echos! This is not considered annoying behavior. Back up your statement. Where does it say they cannot do this? And, why can't you just send these messages to the bit bucket on your end? Why do have have to try an ruin a good thing for the rest of us? Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 51 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 3:48p Subj: K12 Stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: ky_da da da BY: Boyd Goodin to Murry Francis on Mon Mar 28 1994 02:00 am Boyd, that guy is a flake. Keep up the good work. If they don't want the echo they can send it to the bit bucket! Please keep these echos. Thanks Boyd. Your doing a hell of a good job. Signed, A very satisified customer, Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 52 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:43p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT BG> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these BG> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, BG> BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I, for one, feel exactly the opposite. Putting echos like K12 in with the rest of FTN mail makes it easy an automatic for those who want to carry those echos, and carries no pain or cost for those who do not, unless, perchance, the Murray's system was sold to him without a NUL device in which case he should be complaining to his computer system vendor, and not to you. BG> Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for BG> for education (God knows this country needs it!) [...] Indeed, and some of the abuse directed your way is in itself good evidence of the need to which you point. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 53 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:40p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Wednesday March 23 1994 07:54, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: MF> Boyd, MF> MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 MF> echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they MF> should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT MF> authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I am MF> NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo MF> tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do this MF> on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MF> behavior. Thank you, Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS MF> - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) I find your message to be annoying behavior.. I would have prefered that your would have shown the Common decency to have Sent you Message to Boyd via NETMAIL or Called him up Voice.. FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect Service that has Nothing to do with FidoNET... PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... IMHO, you have serveral choices.. 1. Bit Bucket the K12 echo's, 2. Terminate your Contract with Planet Connect.. 3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who may like the services that are being provide by PC.. Regards, George Vandervort - NET382 NEC ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 54 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 2:23p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 28 Mar 94, 02:00, Boyd Goodin wrote to Murry Francis: BG> am in the morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then working BG> all day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going BG> good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or BG> 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? BG> P.S. Have a nice day! It's part of doing business. Sounds like you folks need more help. No attitude problem, huh? --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 55 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 9:09p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 255/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 370/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TW_FILE' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 372/10 not authorized to create area 'COMP.GROUPWARE' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 3621/1 not authorized to create area 'RENEGADE' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-COMP' Address 345/12 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 345/12 not authorized to create area 'HAWAII' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'RIP_GRFX' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'SPN_VIRUSTROJAN' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area '903SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'REGION150' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area '903SYSOP' Address 2609/4 not authorized to create area 'IMPERIUM' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 100/602 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY ARCADI Number: 56 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 9:40p Subj: Re: Internet mail via Planet Connect... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> This is in the plans but I do not have a date for when this will be done For what its worth, this would be one of the best features I could think of, assuming the mail was sent real-time, however, I could see certain BBSes taking up a large portion of the bandwidth <comparitavly speaking>, so perhaps metering mail to BBSes for billing purposes would be a nice idea also. --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: ·∙■∙· Stromi's ·∙■∙· (1:272/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY ARCADI Number: 57 To: STEVE VOLD Date: 03/27/94 9:41p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SV> Why the heck would you want to run something for a bunch of people for SV> free??? I don't get that at all. Unless its like your rich and have SV> nothing better to do with your life :) I've run a free BBS in the past, it has a certain level of satisfaction, and its a lot less stressful, I really ran it for self-gratification. I don't see why everyone is even debating the issue, I've seen excellent free boards, and really poor pay boards, and vice-versa, I dont think whether you charge or not has any bearing at all on the quality of the board. For what its worth, I am now a pay board, and I am making the requisite changes.... --- Renegade v1-2 Exp * Origin: ·∙■∙· Stromi's ·∙■∙· (1:272/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 58 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:14p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying > behavior. Are you a PC downlink..? Ever hear of the echo PCSITES...? I like K12 Freeway echoes just like they are and so do several other folks who pay big money. We discuss it in an echo setup for us folks with a common interest. If you don't like what you get for your money ask for a refund. There are many folks out here who are tired of people shooting PC down and particularly in a Public echo....! I am very, very happy with saving (x) dollars....so are many other folks who are downlinking the signal from Planet Connect. Murray ^ --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 59 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:19p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I would > have a good case against him. Do the rest of us PAYING customers a favour. Take it to netmail or PCSITES..! Murray ^ --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN LECHNER Number: 60 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 6:58p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 23 Mar 94, Jeff Bowman writes to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work fine and can usually be found pretty inexpensive ($15-20ea). Put them together with a couple of copies of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, connectors and terminators and you have a network for under $200.00. Kevin --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Last Point, Palm Bay, FL ** 14.4 ** (1:374/85.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 61 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/28/94 1:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with -> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up -> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multip -> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me -> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. I am interested. If you want the file distributed in the Wildcat file network, send it to Ron Woods and he can hatch it. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 62 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 7:39p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT BG>Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the BG>morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then BG>working all day at an office taking tech calls and making BG>sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back BG>here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you BG>get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? Boyd, what does all this have to do with my statement? If you are surrounded by inexperienced people, than you have a problem indeed, I have found myself in the same situation as yours, but a simple double cardiac bypass operation freed me from that crap. Now i can sit at home and bitch at you. I suggest you do hire some assistant that can handle some responsibility as you are only one person. On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no matter how much good these echo's seem, there is always going to be the next guy that approach's you, and it will be up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, kind of alot of power if left in the wrong hands? I think the backbone has a system to get echo's on the backbone, and it has worked fine so far. You can very easily start your own backbone, and it might be a good idea, if you need a hand to set it up let me know, I am willing to help, I have plenty of time anymore, it would be better than bitching at you. BG>P.S. Have a nice day! You have a nice day too, Boyd. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 63 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 8:30p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them with USEnet, see what happens.....I don't think you would like that reaction either. How about Rime....try that one. The point I was making was that I do have grounds to complain to you, if I wanted to file a policy complaint it would have been done long ago, that is not what this communications hobby is about with me.....I feel that we can communicate and resolve any problems. Remeber this is not a hobby with you, it is a business, and you get paid to hear my input on your service to me, my suggestion to you is that you swallow what you have before you bite off another piece, you are trying to implement to many things at one time, and you are not surrounded with "over achievers" down their, seems like you are one overworked person, and you truly do need someone on your team to pull the load too. ...Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 64 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 8:36p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Jeff Bowman Was Heard Saying This To All: JB>As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then JB>laplink it all JB>over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. Jeff LapLink has a command line mode that will let you transfer the stuff over to the main system via a batch file, they are in the LapLink docs. It's alot cheaper than a network for this kind of stuff. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 65 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/28/94 2:59p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} MB> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: JB} MB> Wildcat 3.9 JB} MB> Lantastic 5.0 JB} MB> DESQview/QEMM (latest) JB} MB> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) JB} her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will JB} toss 380-600 message per minute And another suggestion....SORTPKT helps considerably for tossing to your own message base. But another utility, PSORT, will work for your own message bases as well as downlink packets. PSORT is much faster than SORTPKT (make that *MUCH* faster). It sorts messages by area, and then chronologically within each area. You can set PSORT up (with a small batch file) to run each time you run WMail as "program to run after unpacking" in WMCONFIG. Depending on how many echos you toss, this can reduce your toss time considerably by pre-filtering out the echos you don't want. My total toss time was cut in half. This idea won't increase your tossing speed, but it will make sure that WildMail doesn't waste time dealing with echos you (and your downlinks) don't carry. You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 and LANtastic. If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take you long to get it going. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 66 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 5:17p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Murry Francis said: > Boyd, > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as > turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infractions at > once! This is considered annoying behavior. Maybe to you, I consider it nice :-) --- FastEcho v1.40 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 67 To: JOE LYDA Date: 03/28/94 4:23p Subj: Re: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 28-Mar-1994 02:24 thus spake JOE LYDA unto ALL: JL> The results of these files have helped me to complety automate everything JL> except the few files or .tic's left behind. I have written a program to help clean up those extra .TIC's & files very quick and easily. If you would like a copy Freq TICKPROC from 1:2201/200. Features of version 2.2 include : · One tick/line on the screen allows you to view several ticks at a time. · Deletion of a tick file also removes its associated file if present. · Move a tick and its associated file to another drive or directory. · Rename the area name in a tick file for rerouting. · Output list of files (with its area name, size, and description) to a text file or printer. · Tagging operations allow changes to multiple files at one time. · View the actual tick file for seenby's or whatever. · View FileBone.NA to read descriptions or areas. · View the current compressed file (if present) in Shez. Version 2.5 is in beta testing right now, I hope to release it by the end of the week. New features in 2.5 will include : · Configuration stored in .EXE file. · Sort list of files by areaname, filename, size, or extension. · Tag files by filespec. · Generate tick files for orphan files. · Delete only Tick file. · Ability to rename tick file if extension is not *.TIC --- GoldED 2.42a/Intermail 2.26/FastEcho 1.40/TAG 2.6F3b Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRISTOPHER JONG Number: 68 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 12:07p Subj: This Base Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0513] * Origin: The Shareware Exchange! [415]992-4320 <Daly City, CA> (1:125/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK PARKMAN Number: 69 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:33p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the > dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to > be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? > > P.S. Have a nice day! > > ...Boyd Hey Boyd, you could always tell em to "call 911"... Keep up the good work guy, screw the ones that do nuthin but bitch. An yeah I could use a job <g> --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Swingers International (1:170/351) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 70 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 3:54p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and BG>start something that is good for education (God knows this country BG>needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the BG>other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing what is I pick up the echos if its any interest, and don't consider them excess baggage, heck, there's been so little traffic in them, why would they be bad echomail? Plannet Connect sends a crapload of file/echo areas, what's the difference if there are more echos that aren't "official", or does _everyone_ just import _everything_ that comes down? --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 71 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/28/94 1:53p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AF> What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? From the AF> posts whichI have read, our time is very short of being average. AF> Adam I have tossed from two different machines Adam and my times are: 286/16 1 1/2 hour. 386/40 45 min. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 72 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/28/94 10:51p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Adam Farkas wrote in a message to All: AF> What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? AF> From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of AF> being average. On a 386-40 here it takes about 2 hours (using Squish). This machine is also a non-dedicated server for a Lantastic network and is optimised for network performance, not local performance. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD WALLEN Number: 73 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/28/94 5:40p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=>On 23 Mar 94 12:59:35, Dexter Wright retorted to Martin Belcke<=- -=>about Tic Files<=- Hello Dexter, -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the proper fi -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are using -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for DW> requesting file echo's? If you find one let me know... also I found out real quick that wcff couldn't handle the entire filebone setup in the wcff.cfg so I had to create 3 of them in order to process it all. Alittle more each day... Richard ... Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: <<C>> it on! On-Line After Late Night *BBS* Line #@ (1:3625/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 74 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/27/94 10:20a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the PC gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that there were problems with reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided that I should ask before spending my dough. I'm not sure if it was you I talked to but I was told that everything works fine under 2.1 as long as the parallel port is configured sharable. Trusting the voice on the other end of the phone, I went ahead and ordered a receiver and dongle from Dave at Westonia, still awaiting its arrival. Now I hear from several OS/2 users that the dongle does not work under OS/2 2.1 even if the port is sharable. Does Planet Connect admit there is a problem or have the people reporting problems simply failed to install/configure properly? So far I haven't heard from anyone stating that they have it working under any version of OS/2 although there are rumors that it works under 2.0. Can Planet Connect either dispell the rumors or supply specific details of installation that is known to work under 2.1? In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". These references lead me to believe that PC is working on eliminating the dongle altogether. Is this true? If so, when do you expect the dongleless version to be available? Kim --- Sqed/32 0.87/r15047 * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 75 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 12:37p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, > they should NOT be mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT > authorized to add areas on my system that are not listed in fido, as I > am NOT allowed to do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY > echo tag that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do > this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered > annoying behavior. Better still just disconnect? then you will not have any problems at all? Just your phone bill. This is getting real tiring for the rest of us. Just drop your subscription and your whining will then cease for the rest of us as well. This I consider more anoying behavior. I can't believe this sort of ignorance. Boyd is only the trucking outfit that delivers your mail. You can, by choice go to another possibly Ma Bell. You are his downlink, he is not obligated to you in any way. If he provides more, then be gratefull! I don't carry the whole backbone either so what is another few areas that hit the bit bucket? maybe another 10 seconds of processing. ************************************************************************ ** Boyd ** I still beleive you are doing an admirable job with this thing! I still prefer your service over to the phone by a long shot! Just count to 10 when you get a message like this. I know the silent majority is behind you 100%. There are growing pains along the way, but we all go through it just setting up a BBS. ************************************************************************** TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 76 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:42p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and > start something that is good for education (God knows this country needs > it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have > been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this area. Boyd notice the noise is only coming from one place? The rest of us are more than satisfied. It would take a lot to get me back off of your service. We never could have afforded the services you provide at the reasonable cost using the telephone system. Don't let one bad apple ruin your day!! Ehh? ^^^^ Canuk.. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 77 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/28/94 7:42a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I think BBSing is, was, and always will be whatever the individual sysop chooses to make of it. I think there's room for everybody to do her/his own thing. If some people's philanthropy is a problem for you then you can choose to let it bother you or not that's your own affair. If your business like approach bothers others then that's their own affair. In either case one's persuasion ought not to drive her/him to disgracing themselves publicly the way some have here. GB> All I can say.... is while attending both OneBBSCON Conventions I never GB> heard anyone argue that "BBS's" are hobbys. The last group of attendies GB> were about 2,000 and we are expecting about double that this year! Did you solicit the opinions of all 2000 attendies? And even if you did then ..... so what? All it "proves" is that a small percentage of sysops favor user fees .... not a compelling argument that everybody else should go pay board. GB> I find myself in great company! Channel-1, Exec-PC, GB> Hackers World, Software GB> Creations (#1 BBS 1993), and many other for-profit online systems. In the context of BBSs, "great" is subjective and personal. Your vision of greatness doesn't compel anyone else to follow suit. GB> How many of you "Free Hobby Systems" thought enough of GB> your users to attend GB> such a convention? What you're really saying is "Gene Balmain" is superior; those who didn't attend are inferior. Doesn't wash here, Gene. And how do you know whether or not I run a Free Hobby System? I don't see you on my user list? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 78 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/28/94 5:25p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GB> All I can say.... is while attending both OneBBSCON Conventions I never GB> heard anyone argue that "BBS's" are hobbys. The last group of attendies GB> were about 2,000 and we are expecting about double that this year! GB> I find myself in great company! Channel-1, Exec-PC, GB> Hackers World, Software GB> Creations (#1 BBS 1993), and many other for-profit online systems. Although this appears to be an open, unmoderated echo, I was under the impression that we, as sysops, are expected to moderate ourselves to some degree and stay "on topic". How does your quoted text relate to Planet Connect? Would it not be more appropriate for the Sysop echo? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 79 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 03/28/94 5:35p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Some of you are far too impressed with yourselves and need to be sat KB> in a corner until you're ready to quit this nana nana boo boo stuff. CC> Well said. I've often heard my nearly 4-year old daughter say "nana CC> nana boo boo" and I've always wondered where on earth it came from. I CC> guess it's a universal thing for children (and sysops). I'm beginning to think maybe the kids get it from the sysops <g>. CC> Thanks for bringing us down to earth; there are more important and CC> productive issues at hand. Let's get on with them. Yup! Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 80 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/28/94 5:41p Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Actually, I wasn't too worried about the disk capacity since that > can be changed easily enough. My main concern was the CPU's ability > to handle the 19.2 receiver. I should have been more precise in my JD> Kim, JD> When we first started hubbing echomail back in '88, we used both a Tandy JD> 1000SX (8 mhz XT) and a Heath H-151 (4.77 mhz XT). We JD> used a variety of (slow) MFM hard drives with both, JD> including a pair of Tandon TM-603s at 100+ ms access JD> speed. Neither machine would work with an HST and a JD> port speed of 19,200 until we installed 16550s in the JD> serial ports, then both did. I have no idea if an XT JD> with 16550 will work with the PC receiver, but my JD> personal experience suggests that it will. I used XT in the generic sense, actually I mean an XT clone, in fact a Tandy 1000, the original, not the SX. My MFM drives are a little faster than your old Tandons (wow, 100+ ms) and for sure I'll be using 16550s. Thanks for relating your past experience. It sounds like it will work for me and be an inexpensive solution until the dongle becomes usable under OS/2. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 81 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/29/94 1:33a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Adam, * In a message originally to All, Adam Farkas said: > What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? > From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of > being average. Would depend greatly on your hardware, software, and how you have the tossing setup, not to mention how many downlinks etc.... My current setup copies files across a Netware lite network, and processes in the 6th window of Desqview on a 486/66 also running 3 modems/mailers/bbs. I toss fido mail, toss files, gate internet, to around 30 downlinks and it will do the whole deal in about 3 hours or so. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 82 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/28/94 12:35a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > These sysops, for some reason think that they deserver 'special access' > on my system and a 'professional courtesy'. Ha! Everyone pays. Especially > the sysops. Hi Gary. Actually, we have a similar policy here as well. It is amazing how the "free system SysOps" are always at the top of the download list, and the first ones to yell when they can't get something <grin>. Maybe some good will come out of the thread after all... We can always hope. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 83 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:56p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and -> start -> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs -> it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have -> been very patient and quite while seeing what is going on in this -> area. It is going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in -> here???? Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw -> that broke the camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. -> I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, -> reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an -> office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. -> Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or -> 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? -> -> P.S. Have a nice day! Fealing kinda unappreciated eh? As far as Im concerned, you can send anything you want down! If I don't want it, I don't have to keep it! God, griping about getting something for free is just too much! Ya don't want it?!?!? Erase it! BTW, how much does the job pay? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 84 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 5:00p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Get a Lantastic starter pack, their pretty cheap. Or a novell Lite starter pack would work. Pretty much, nowdays you can buy ethernet cards at arround $70 each, you will need one per computer, then the software. You can get Novell Lite at $59 per node, so you can start off pretty cheap! --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 85 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 03/27/94 2:16p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 25 Mar 94 20:26, John Little wrote to All: JL> Just tesing to see if these messages are getting out. Loud and clear in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 86 To: HENRY MOORE Date: 03/28/94 10:19a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HM> user. Those running a BBS as a business I have no problem with. Those HM> wishing users to help support their hobby is acceptable but it is those HM> sysops which claim to be "Free" while accepting "contributions" or HM> "donations" for additional BBS access that gets under my skin at times. HM> If you're running a business...call it that but don't disgrace the HM> sysops truly running a "free access" BBS. It seems the numbers of HM> "free" BBSs are dwindling and this is sad. And you can't tell me that You are a romantic, Sir. I think you have a good grasp of the situation. I hope you have a very long run with your free BBS. I recently called Ward & Randy's BBS and it is still free, too. I also agree with you about the whining, hands out palms up SysOps who claim to run a free BBS. "If you send me some money, I will buy a bigger hard drive." seems to be their battle cry. Ciao' Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH ZAUNER Number: 87 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 1:41p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 23 16:36>, Murry Francis (1:2215/5) writes: MF > I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone MF >seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 MF >echo areas that they want him to force down our throats....it could MF >happen, and it seems a bit too easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I MF >just want him to leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I MF >would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas mandatory, I think I MF >would have a good case against him. MURRAY LIGHTEN UP! (meant as a shout) If you don't want the echoes then make them pass through and go about your business.. youll never see em and have to worry about them. Some of us may wish to carry them or make them available to our downstream people. It doesn't affect the mail handling in any other way. I personally would like to see BIYD put a lot more echoes up on the bird, that way I can choose what I want on my system, and my people downstream can choose what they want. BTW I am very happy with the current way things are running, If you aren't then send your PC stuff back and go back to using the local phone company. Ralph Zauner --- msged 2.05 * Origin: Creative OS/2 Eccentrics of Wyoming (1:303/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 88 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you MF> do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am MF> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in MF> fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be mixed in with my MF> daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add areas on MF> my system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to MF> do so on your system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag MF> that I wish to create on your system, I will in turn let you do MF> this on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is MF> considered annoying behavior. Gosh, do some of you dips ever grow up? My 11 year old daughter can ask better than this! What a putz! --jah ... Quoth the Raven ... "Eat my Shorts!" --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 89 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP>> How about just taking the list from the echo and edit DP>> it.... then add it to the bottem of the FIDONET.NA..? MF> I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his MF> backbone seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach MF> him next with their 31 echo areas that they want him to force MF> down our throats.... I seriously doubt Boyd is trying to 'force it down [your] throat". It is there. If someone don't want it (as I don't) we toss it in the bitbucket and it's gone ... nada ... nil. MF> it could happen, and it seems a bit too MF> easy for Boyd to start his own backbone, I just want him to MF> leave zone 1 backbone alone. I could imagine how pissed I MF> would be if my RHUB made 31 non zone 1 echomail areas MF> mandatory, I think I would have a good case against him. Since when did it become mandatory to carry it? Pass over it! It's really simple, even for non-rocket-scientist types like you. We all are receiving certain things we are not going to use via Planet Connect. But most of us, that is, those of us with working grey matter, ignore those things we don't want to utilize and enjoy all the other things that we DO want to carry, at a greatly reduced fee. BTW, your lack of intelligence and your childish posts are excessively annoying. --jah ... Illegitimus non carborundum est --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 90 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 7:46p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do >> NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering >> these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or >> fidonet.no, they BG> BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I don't, yet I guess it depends upon the powers that be in FIDOnet. Is this jerk part of that power-hungry fiasco? BG> Gheese, you try to help out BG> and start something that is good for education (God knows BG> this country needs it!) No sh*t! BG> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the BG> moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the camels BG> back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all ready to BG> take my first swing. I am no public relations man. Do you BG> think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, BG> reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all BG> day at an office taking tech calls and making sure everything BG> is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm BG> and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your mail and BG> files. Anybody want a job? P.S. Have a nice day! I'm rather surprised you took all the guff that you have for so long as it is. Personally, if it were me, I'd contact those that are in charge of FIDOnet and abide by what they say. And if they say you can do as you are, I'd tell these other piss-willie wienies to take a flying you-know-what. --jah ... A Living Example of Artificial Intelligence --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 91 To: JASON KLANK Date: 03/28/94 12:14p Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar2812:14, Jason Klank of 1:3639/19 writes: > JK> The program will also SCAN for outgoing mail in the above > JK> formats, but does NOT support outgoing UseNet mail (it's > JK> main use is for INCOMING mail). JK> > JK> Freq XSH from 1:3639/7 for the full version > JK> Freq STINKY from 1:3639/7 for the .BAG/Squish only > JK> version. JK> > is it shareware, or a demo, or freeware? JK> It's shareware, but it is not crippled in any way. I wish that your BBS worked better then xsh or whatever. I just got my phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 times in a row in the evening at two different intervals, for the past week with no response. Maybe you should work on improving your answering sequence - like taking your phone off hook when the computer cannot respond. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 92 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 03/28/94 12:20p Subj: PCUSENet BAGS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar2812:20, Ervin Jay of 1:153/767 writes: EJ> Any ideas where these files really can be freq'd that will yield EJ> the actual files and not simply more .RSP's EJ> Bad, expensive, joke :((( I'll second that! --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 93 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/28/94 4:23p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Jim Dunmyer on Sun Mar 27 1994 03:17 pm > The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system (free or p > which carried the services I was looking for (as a caller). The discussion > here seems to imply that Doors make a system...doesn't anyone care about 'ot > services'? Around Vegas, systems with online games are 5 for a nickle, 12 t > the dime...but as more people are getting to computing as a serious extensio > of their work or 'other' hobbie, I think you'll find that the number of onli > games a system has will be less a measure of sucess and more a measure of th > sysop's desperation to attract callers. > > There will always be room for boards that provide in-depth support for areas > special interest....somthing that a pay board cannot afford to do. A pay bo > that specialized in, for example, Ham radio would have a tough time making i > but there is STILL a place for such a board...even if the board is (gasp) a > free one. . If you dont know already... John here runs a Geneology mail board <<CHUCKLE>> and brings a wealth of "Experience" to the disscussion. <G> I on the other hand bring almost 10 years of BBS experience (6 years running a free system) along with attending both One BBSCON conventions and the BBS Expo in Washington DC next week. Yea I could be "smart" and stick my head in the sand like John..... For those of you that havent attended such a convention it can be alot of fun... and work! My staff and I sat through atleast 6 hours a day worth of seminars. These included: Privacy & Censorship, Graphics Interface Design for Business Applications, Online Databases, Educational Telecommunications, ISDN Deployment, Chat/Social BBS Roundtable, Electonic Access to Government and Governance, Data Communication Trends, Introduction to TCP/IP, Satellite Communcations for BBSs, BBSs Under Attact The First Amendment, Future of Modem Technology, Women Online, Electronic Democracy, Association of Shareware Professionals, Meet the EFF, Using IVDS Channels to Bypass Telco and Cable into the Home, X.25 Packet Switch Networks for BBSs and about a hundred more!! I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... Gene Balmain EFF Member #1652 Vegas PlayGround! ASP BBS #99 (first in Nevada) BBS Press Affiliate --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 94 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 9:47p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out > and start something that is good for education (God knows this > country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and > down the other. I have been very patient and quite while seeing Whooaaa Boyd, settle down there fella. I have no problem with what you are trying to do and I believe you have given everyone ample opportunity to set those areas up as passthrough. I, myself, will be tossing them to the board as soon as I get my new software setup. I think it offers another opportunity to expand one's BBS without a lot of work. I don't know who this character is and have been annoyed with his first couple of posts. I too agree the moderator needs to step forward. I've been with PC since late beta and think you are doing just fine with what you have had to work with. Some folks just don't understand new technologies and some ( this from experience with dealing with public face to face everyday fro the last 10 years) just try to find something to bitch about. To this Murry character, please, be an adult and discuss this rationally without flaming. Otherwise, why don't you take the refund offer PC has for 60 days and let the rest of us enjoy our systems. If out fo the sixty day period, sell it to someone who would appreciate it more than you. Thanks all for letting me air out this pent up anger. --- Gecho/386 1.02+ * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:3667/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 95 To: DALE WOOD Date: 03/28/94 5:51a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW|Mac- |Here's my CONFIG.SYS, some of it gotted wrapped off the screen, but I |think I've got everything here. Remember, Wildmail still runs abysmally |slow(60 mpm or so) and I can only get 499K or so windows with the server |loaded. I'm I'm not thrilled with the way this has worked out, but it |does work(kinda). Sounds like you've got much the same problems I'm having. Wonder where those folks are with configs that toss some 300/min? <g> I can only get 480k per WC window with all the overhead loaded. DW|Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. |Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That |would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one machi I wouldn't even attempt that (your machine IMHO would drop to a crawl even if you could). To not slow down my BBS machine, I have all the message bases, WM, and TNET on the Satellite machine. That processor brings in PC and tosses all the mail. The BBS machine is not used at all so there is no slow down at all except when WCFF is tossing the files to the BBS machine. Looks like you have pretty much the same setup as I. How do you have SERVER set up? Could I see your STARTNET.BAT? Thanks. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 96 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 6:36p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG| Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start |something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it!) and Boyd, thanks for adding the K12_Freeway to PC. I, for one, appreciate them. I originally hoped for the entire K12, but since the council voted against it, I'm glad you at least have the Freeway. After all, guys, isn't that what the \BAD directory is for? No echos are added to your system unless you *add* them. Try DEL *.* /y. That ought to get it for you. I don't care for MAC conferences or PCBOARD either for that matter, but I will fight for the right of those that do. Thanks, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 97 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 6:48p Subj: Re: School echoes availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF| I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone seperat |than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 echo areas t |they want him to force down our throats....it could happen, and it seems a b Why don't you let it rest? It seems you've made your point as misguided as it is. * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 98 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 7:12p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Jeff! JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, you will |toss 380-600 message per minute Thanks. I'll grab it. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 99 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 6:28p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to > help out and start something that is good for No. Personally, I like the idea, and my users, and my other downlinks are really enjoying the reading of the K12 echos. As you said, we need all the help we can get with out Educational system. I also like it being in the same bunch of packets with the rest of the Fidonet areas. It sure beats having to put together another AKA and setting up seperate packets.. Is there another way of having more than one FTS networks on the bird? Not that the current way is bad. As it seems the other nets are in .QWK format, and not FTSC format. Keep it the way it is. And yes, we do need a moderator. Seems that ALL of the current topics are in left-field. TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 100 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 7:50p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 62 Read: NO Private: No -> Boyd, what does all this have to do with my statement? If you ar -> surrounded by inexperienced people, than you have a problem indeed, I If you continue this thread, I'm going to cut your feed to this echo. Got it? EOT. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 101 To: CHRISTOPHER JONG Date: 03/30/94 7:52p Subj: This Base Refer: 68 Read: NO Private: No -> I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? Anything (with tact) relating to the Planet Connect service. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 102 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/30/94 7:58p Subj: Services Refer: 78 Read: NO Private: No -> Although this appears to be an open, unmoderated echo, I was under th -> impression that we, as sysops, are expected to moderate ourselves to -> degree and stay "on topic". How does your quoted text relate to Plan -> Connect? Would it not be more appropriate for the Sysop echo? Amen. It was only "unmoderated" during the time I was moving to my new house. I'm back now, complete with new node number. 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 103 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 03/30/94 7:59p Subj: Re: Ky_da Da Da Refer: 83 Read: NO Private: No -> BTW, how much does the job pay? I've been curious about this too <seg>. tim moderator p.s. Boyd, you're doing a hell of a job. Don't let the weenies get you down. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORM HENKE Number: 104 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 2:41p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running 2 copies of NWDOS 7.0 and 2 UTP ethernet cards. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: PC-OHIO - The Best BBS in America (pcohio.com) (1:157/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 105 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 2:07p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: MF> On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own MF> initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no MF> matter how much good these echo's seem, there is always MF> going to be the next guy that approach's you, and it will be MF> up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, MF> kind of alot of power if left in the wrong hands? I think MF> the backbone has a system to get echo's on the backbone, and MF> it has worked fine so far. You can very easily start your MF> own backbone, and it might be a good idea, if you need a MF> hand to set it up let me know, I am willing to help, I have MF> plenty of time anymore, it would be better than bitching at MF> you. Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your butt..... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... If you can kill a snake with it, it ain't art. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 106 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 2:11p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist MF> adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 MF> backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them They are not sent back to the Z1 backbone.....therefor they are not mixed and the backbone has not been hurt..... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... Home of the McTagline. Billions and Billions served. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 107 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/29/94 10:28p Subj: Re: Need A Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, MB> |you will toss 380-600 message per minute MB> Thanks. I'll grab it. OK...who's got that at High Speed and under what FREQ name? --jah ... PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 108 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/29/94 8:43p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar 28 10:47>, Ronnie Toth writes: RT> Effective April 1, 1994 RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! YES! --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 109 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 8:29p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT ->> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these ->> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and start Boyd, I'll be glad to allow him to feed off me and get only what he wants! Just can't please everyone can ya. Keep'em coming!!!!!! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 110 To: ALL Date: 03/29/94 8:37p Subj: BBS <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How do I do it? Scenario: I feed 6-8 other systems both FidoNet/FileBone. What I'd like to do is continue this and add in InterNet e-mail/UseNet. Where do I start? I know I need a host.domain... Where does this info come from? I have GIGO, FREDGATE, XSH, etc., but they all want that info. I currently have no host to send replies, and had hoped PC would be my choice?!? So in the mean time, what can I do to at least get the receiving/feeding to downlinks started? I can NETMAIL for any info files/example configs folks can provide me with! Thanks, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 111 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 03/29/94 9:55a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: Tony Cremonese to Gary Hedberg on Sun Mar 27 1994 10:47 am > > > GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com > GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | > GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 > > I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing on different mess > platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is there any document that treats this subj > for beginners? Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own a > would like to develope a final signature and get on with it. One that is OK > both FidoNet and Internet would be best. > > Tony Cremonese > tony@acornbbs.com Just do your thing, man! Be expressive!!! +---------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Mark Krieg | YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 | | Cool Baby BBS | FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| | | York, Pa USA | Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | | | 717-751-0855 | RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] | +---------------+-----------------------------.oOO--(__)--OOo-+ --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 112 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 12:43p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, On Mar. 28, 1994 at 02:00 , Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote: BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out No, I don't feel that way. John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 113 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 9:36a Subj: UseNet NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, near the end of February we started receiving the new PCUSENET.LST file. In one of your notes that come through in the personal directory you said that these areas should be coming online within a week or so. Well, its now a month later and we are still only getting roughly 30 PCUSENET files a day. When will the feed be picking up? Also, when will you start charging for the feed? I haven't heard much about it and I was just wondering how much advance notice you were planning on giving us before implementing the fee. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 114 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/28/94 4:10p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NO -> nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 ec -> echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NO -> in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT authorized to add area -> system that are not listed in fido, as I am NOT allowed to do so on y -> system. When you decide to accept ANY echo tag that I wish to create -> system, I will in turn let you do this on my system. Stop these infra -> once! This is considered annoying behavior. Ya know, its people like you that made me QUIT fido and then finally join up with PC. Why don't you give the guy a break. All he is trying to do is save EVERYONE some money by allowing us to return replies to his system rather then make yet another LD call to a different site. You guys and your annoying behavior crap really make me ILL!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 115 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 5:19p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no -> -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s -> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it -> get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very pa -> quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the -> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat -> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to -> ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public rela -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read -> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking -> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co -> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your -> files. Anybody want a job? -> -> P.S. Have a nice day! -> -> ...Boyd Boyd, I REALLY feel sorry for you. It seems like everytime you try to improve the setup, some ya-ho jumps out from under his rock and tries to make life the pitts for the rest of us! I've seen talk about the policy4 in here, this little round of BS and personally I am SICK of the entire thing. I dropped fido because of this crap and then when I hooked into PC for the NewsGroups, I figured what the heck, I'm getting the full feed, why not. Its really becoming quite clear again. Want a moderator, I'd glady do the job, but be forewarned, I WON'T take the crap thats been going on. Also, well I'm here I might as well express my feeling on your REALTIME endeavors. CONGRADULATIONS!!! If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll buy you a few beer! The reason I joined PC in the first place was because I believe I have an idea of the potential of your satellite setup. And know that I see Bill Gates feels the same way, I guess we're in pretty good company. Gee, maybe he'll listen to the bitchers and put his network of satellites on a delay. What do you think<G>! I was considering adding a pagesat system to my setup as well, but when I read your realtime.txt doc, I was VERY HAPPY. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE keep pushing forward. For those that are ill equipped to handle the future, maybe they should pull the plug on their satellite receiver and keep dreaming of their 286's and 40 meg HD's. You know Boyd, it always seems to be the minority that squeaks the loudest. I think we've proven that here. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 116 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/28/94 5:15p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it al -> over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. -> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite starter Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet cards, cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 117 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 03/28/94 5:16p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be -> -> This thread is disgusting! -> >>>B R A V O<<< Well put! I second that!!! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY DUN Number: 118 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:30p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 28 18:40>, George Vandervort (1:382/8@fidonet.org) writes: GV>Hello Murry! GV>Wednesday March 23 1994 07:54, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: MF> Boyd, MF> MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these K12 MF> echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they MF> on my system. Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MF> behavior. Thank you, Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS MF> - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) GV>I find your message to be annoying behavior.. Boy do I agree. Put a lid on it ! PC is doing a great job. Boyd . Keep the faith baby ! The silent majority are on your side. GV>FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect Service that has GV>Nothing to do with FidoNET... GV>PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... GV>IMHO, you have serveral choices.. GV>1. Bit Bucket the K12 echo's, GV>2. Terminate your Contract with Planet Connect.. GV>3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who may like the GV>services that are being provide by PC.. GV>Regards, GV>George Vandervort - NET382 NEC Couldn't have said it better..... Terry Dun NET321 NEC --- QM v1.31 * Origin: SpaceMet North Greenfield, Ma. (413)772-2030 (1:321/152.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 119 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:07p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > On the other subject....starting 31 echo's on your own > initiative, is setting a scary example of PC's power, no matter > how much good these echo's seem, there is always going to be the I was trying to stay out of this as I don't need a bypass of my own. But. Murry you're so far off on this one how can anyone not intervene. The way Planet Connect has handled this situation and all the others goes completely counter to your expressed fear. Count 1: they carry anything and everything that appears in FIDONET.NA and thus do not even pretend to exercise judgement on the value of the echoes. Count 2: as a pure service courtesy they also carry everything that appears in FIDONET.NO even tho that listing is purely informal and has no status at all. Count 3: in regard to all other networks, including K12.FWY, they must *by*definition* exercise judgement about whether the *network* is worth their effort to transmit to their clients. Once they make that decision, they then afford those networks the same free editorial control as is given fido echos. More than this is not possible. PC cannot exist in an evironment where there is no judgement about "worthiness" or everyone with a pet project would be on the bird and then you'd be having an even bigger bird. The worst of your complaint is that it is trivial for you to bit bucket the echos you don't want wihout trouncing everyone else. Are you suggesting that right now you process every single echo in the fidonet backbone into msg bases? Or do you bit bucket quite a few of them? Most of us bit bucket many, but even if you do not, there is nothing preventing you from doing so with the K12.FWY echos if you see no value in them. Finally, even if I agreed with your point about the echos being included in the fido bundles -- which I do not -- you could have some success approaching PC with some suggestions and positive response. Beating Boyd over the head because you're annoyed with something that eases almost everyone elses job not only won't get you anywhere with Boyd, it makes the rest of us wonder why you want to complicate *our* lives. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 120 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 6:11p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist > adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 > backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Mix them This is simply factually incorrect. In our net we have at least a dozen echos of our creation that we have "mixed in" and for a good long while we transported GateNet along the way as well. To my best information there are a schmear of non-fidonet echos transported in the same bundles including such goodies as all the filebone administrivative and sysop echos. There are no consequences for the integrity of the backbone unless an idiot creates inappropriate feeds. > with USEnet, see what happens.....I don't think you would like Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to offer the newsgroups. I will not force every one of my downlinks to convert the newsgroups with gating software, but instead will gate them on my system and then "mix them in" with the rest of the echos I distribute. If you are technically incapable of doing this, there are many who would willing assist you. Because done properly, "what will happen" is saving a lot of people a lot of work. Try it and see what happens. Understand this, there is NOTHING in any fidonet rule that prevents piggy-backing mail from other networks per se. Gating restrictions are a seperate matter and are intended to prevent a variety of problems. But so long as Boyd is not sending othernets to his fidonet backbone link without permission, he can send stuff to us in any form he likes. If he could agreement from the original sponsors, he could indeed include RIME and CRS and all the rest in the same bundles as the fidonet stuff. And wouldn't that make things a lot easier for everyone to administer?? .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 121 To: PHIL MILLER Date: 03/29/94 8:57p Subj: Re: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Phil! In a message to Joe Lyda <03/28/94> Phil Miller wrote: PM> PM> On Mon 28-Mar-1994 02:24 thus spake JOE LYDA unto ALL: PM> JL> The results of these files have helped me to complety automate every PM> JL> except the few files or .tic's left behind. PM> I have written a program to help clean up those extra .TIC's & files PM> very quick and easily. If you would like a copy Freq TICKPROC from PM> 1:2201/200. Features of version 2.2 include : I too have these abilities here and can manipulate the files in several ways, however, I do understand the recievers flaws as well, a file can be sent and the tic lost for error failure or vice versa, I search the archives to see if a file has a description and read it determin what kind of file it gets ticked, if not a description it gets deleted deleted, takes a couple of minutes a day. The .tic files are auto perged after 4 days old and I see no reason to view their contents. I mostlikely will freq it just to see what you have done and how you go about it, I personaly do not want to see the file or tic until it is in my database on the bbs. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Aw Honey... just one more message, honest... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 122 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/29/94 12:45p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Effective April 1, 1994, Barring Unforseen Difficulties, RADIST > will be RADISTributing via Planet Connect! Excellent news Ronnie...! REgards...Murray --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 123 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 2:12a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, * In a message originally to Murry Francis, Boyd Goodin said: > > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they > > Fine. Anyone else feel this way? I don't... > Gheese, you try to help out and start something that is good for education > (God knows this country needs it!) Amen! I hear ya. > I have been very patient and quite while > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the > dogs. I'll agree with that too... > Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to > be the moderator??? Not me, too much bickering going on, it's pretty hard to wade through the useful messages anymore. > I guess this is the straw that broke the > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? I don't envy you at all, and NO I don't need a job that badly :) I want to keep my hair for a few more years. We all know that PC and yourself is TRYING very hard to provide the best, and most for the least amount. It is apresiated here trust me! I also believe that most of us that are connected to PC realize that there are going to be things we want, things we don't. Aspects of the service we like and ones we don't etc... At this point I don't think it would be to difficult for US ALL to kinda go with the flow a bit. It'll all work out and the service to us all will improve. The K12 thing is really not that big a deal, those that want fine, those that don't take a few min. to setup the areas as passthru with no connections and POOF! they disapear. Just like the A_config.sky, want it fine, don't sent it to >>NUL. In the mean time, you Boyd/PC, and the guy's writing the WONDERFUL util's like PCFU and skymail, might consider adding a hex file name to your software and setups so that you could at some point in the future send these *extras* that are not Z1 in a mail bundle to a point number off 3615/51. And accept the inbound from us to the same point number off 3615/50. For that matter PCFU could do that now, with just a different command line in my batch file :) (( That reminds me I need to send John a Buck :) )) Just an idea, for you to think about... Shoot I wouldn't even have to add an AKA on my system, just toss from the secure path, and place the 3615/50.xxx in my tosser's connection list, so that you would get return mail. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 124 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 2:22a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff, * In a message originally to All, Jeff Bowman said: > Hello All! > After the proposal of going REALTIME. I built another machine > for the > dish. > As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then > laplink it all > over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. > What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running > <<sig.imp Probably a coupla ethernet cards, cable, and Lantastic AI, or if you are entilted to the reduced upgrade to Novell/DRdos 7.0 John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 125 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:39p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <Boyd was saying to an unhappy camper> -> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read -> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking -> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co -> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your -> files. Anybody want a job? -> BOYD Hey Boyd! WHOA!!!! He is a minority. Wish you would have just ignored his message! He is being unfair to us all. NO WE ALL DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM. Actually I started to reply to his message and decided I would just start something. <G>. You send us what you can get your hands on......We will deal with it one way or another. The K12 stuff so far is free....so far I am just pasiinig it thru.....But I know its there and in time, knowing its there I'll bet I have some users that may want it then Ill put it up. Same goes for a lot of other stuff you send. I think that you did not intend to be a FIDO ONLY feed, am I correct. He is just going to have to deal with it. The rest of us do. And Ill bet ....time permitting I can find users out there interested in EVERYTHING I am getting, I just gotta get it all working right. NO I do not want to Moderate this echo <G><G>. Good luck to the soul that does <G>. TELL HIM TO GET OFF IT AND LEAVE US ALL HAPPY CUSTOMERS BE !!!!!! Walter Cade....A happy and loyal PC Customer --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT FINNERTY Number: 126 To: ALL Date: 03/24/94 11:14p Subj: Crash Course on PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Folks... I'm sure you've heard it before... but I haven't... I'm the NC/NEC of Net 3627 and we're getting ourselves ready for a PC hookup real quick. We've got a 12' mesh dish w/LNB, and all the wiring. And a 386DX40 w/co-proc, 640 meg drive, 4 megs, and a Zyxel for outbounds. PC says the descrambler is "Back-ordered".... I'll take a demo or used one... damaged... I can do board level repairs. Is there anything else I'm gonna need (besides patience) to get this thing working for us? Any help files out there...? Thanks for any hints, tips, or suggestions to get-a-life :) Pat 1:3627/108 & /0 & /1 ad infinitum * SLMR 2.1a * I just got my phone bill. Buy AT&T stock now! --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: BeachMail... We be Jammin'! - SysOps Only! (1:3627/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 127 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/29/94 7:08p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> for free on mine?" The answer is, the pay board has to have > JD> something that a free board doesn't. And a "successful" one > JD> does. > > Sounds like your saying that only a pay board can be successful <G>. Absolutely NOT TRUE, John. My point was that a pay board must have something a free board doesn't if it is to be successful, because all things being equal, the lower price will win. > The reason I started my system was that I could not find a system > (free or pay) which carried the services I was looking for (as a > caller). The discussion here seems to imply that Doors make a > system...doesn't anyone care about 'other services'? Around Vegas, Your points are well-taken, but it isn't just a lot of doors that make a good system. As I said earlier, there's plenty of room for special-interest boards such as yours, free or pay, there's room for the free, general-interest boards, and there's certainly room for the outright commercial systems such as several represented here. It is a big mistake for the sysop of a board in one of these catagories to knock sysops of the others. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 128 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/29/94 7:10p Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I used XT in the generic sense, actually I mean an XT clone, in fact > a Tandy 1000, the original, not the SX. My MFM drives are a little Please keep us informed as to your success or lack thereof! --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 129 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 7:38p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you call it so those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it easy for you, and easy for us. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 130 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/29/94 2:35p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: GB> I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... No I am pissed off that you think that going to a convention gives you the right to decide who can be in that hobbie and who can't. What gave you the right to tell someone to get out of BBSing? Don't answer with that same kind of carp you just sent about BBSCON ect, that didn't give you the right...so EXACTLY what gives you that right? The fact that you are a "hanger on" at a Pay BBS? Your not the sysop, Frank Sener is. Does being a Co-sysop of a pay BBS give you the belief that you have the right to decide who can run a BBS? TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 131 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 03/29/94 10:22a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony Cremonese writes: GH> Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com GH> P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | GH> Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 TC> I am intrigued with the signatures that I have been seeing TC> on different message platforms. Your's caught my eye. Is TC> there any document that treats this subject for beginners? TC> Are there any taboos? I have been experimenting with my own TC> and would like to develope a final signature and get on with TC> it. One that is OK for both FidoNet and Internet would be TC> best. Generally, on the internet, 4 lines is the maximum, unless there is a real good reason. On fidonet, signatures are highly frowned upon but done anyways. If used, keep especially short. Don't post an internet address like user.name@f##.n##.z##.fidonet.org, as that is highly redundant - only post an email address if you have one other than your default. As to tech documents, etc - the only documents one can show you are the phone bills. I'll be glad to show you mine >:-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g2+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY TIMBERMAN Number: 132 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 03/28/94 11:03a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tryin' to lighten up the conversation a bit. They do seem to scratch and claw at each other in here don't they? <g> roy Roy * 1st 1.11 #106bt * All things are difficult before they are easy. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c] * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 133 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 03/29/94 7:40p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Dean! DL|And another suggestion....SORTPKT helps considerably for tossing |to your own message base. But another utility, PSORT, will work |for your own message bases as well as downlink packets. PSORT is |much faster than SORTPKT (make that *MUCH* faster). It sorts |messages by area, and then chronologically within each area. You |can set PSORT up (with a small batch file) to run each time you |run WMail as "program to run after unpacking" in WMCONFIG. |Depending on how many echos you toss, this can reduce your toss |time considerably by pre-filtering out the echos you don't want. |My total toss time was cut in half. I will look for PSORT. I did start using SORTPKT and it helps tremendously! I had to figure out how to get it to work. I think it have. This is in my batch file. WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL (with the PRETOSS option set in WM) SORTPKT WM PRETOSS Is this the way to do it? I haven't been able to figure out any other way to get those .PKT files extracted from the .TU? and into the PRETOSS directory without running the first line. With the above setup, I went from the 60/min to 181/min. That's three times as fast if my math is correct. <g> DL|This idea won't increase your tossing speed, but it will make |sure that WildMail doesn't waste time dealing with echos you (and |your downlinks) don't carry. I post just about *all* the Fido conferences - over 20,000 per day. Only a few new ones I haven't added, and I don't downlink to anyone else. DL|You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be |sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. |PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure |if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 |and LANtastic. I'll check it out. Thanks. DL|If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take |you long to get it going. I surely would appreciate it. I'll be glad to FREQ it too if you'll give me a name. I've been in Fido for over two years, but it wasn't til PC that I realized I didn't have WM configured properly. Of course then I didn't carry that many echoes, so it didn't really matter. Thanks again, Dean. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 134 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/29/94 8:18p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No |be up to your discretion as to weather the echo's are worthy, kind of alot o ^^^^ Maybe you *should* take the K12 echoes, Murry. This is one of the worst grammatical faux pas I as a teacher have to endure. You just might learn something. <g> Remember, education is a lifetime pursuit. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY MUMAW Number: 135 To: STEVE VOLD Date: 03/29/94 9:23a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Jason Baginski <03-25-94 09:31> Steve Vold wrote: SV > Why the heck would you want to run something for a bunch of people SV > for free??? I don't get that at all. How about "community service" and a realization that not everything has to be "me-first?" Why donate to charity ("unless its like [you're] rich and have nothing better to do with your life :)")? Why carry echos like M_P_D or ABLED or SPINAL_INJURY or join ADANet(tm), as many of the ones most interested are least able to pay? Can't (won't) speak for anyone else running a free board, but I'm running my free board as a service to the community. I don't measure success by quantity of callers, but by the quality of enjoyment of those who do call. Matter of fact, that yardstick would also work on pay boards, too <grin>. --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Chthonic BBS - Local Node (1:206/2601) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY MUMAW Number: 136 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 9:35a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Murry Francis <03-28-94 02:00> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, BG > reading stuff that does not make sense and then working all day at an BG > office taking tech calls and making sure everything is going good. BG > Then, for toppers, coming back here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or BG > 2 am again so that you get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? What's the pay and do I have to commute daily from shakey/smokey California? <grin> --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Chthonic BBS - Local Node (1:206/2601) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 137 To: STEVE MOSS Date: 03/27/94 1:14a Subj: OFFLINE MAIL READER Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SMUse them both and pick the best one for *you*..! They each have their SMindividual strengths and weaknesses. I'm a registered user of both SMprograms, and WaveRider fits my usage better at this time. Before SMmaking SMyour final decision, use the most recent public versions of both SMprograms. SMWaveRider v1.10 SMCmpQwk v1.31 Didn't I read somewhere about a version 1.41 of CMPqwk that had considerable new features, bug fixes? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: HighSierra Online * Lake Tahoe CA * 916/577-4438 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRETT HAYS Number: 138 To: FORREST RAYBURN Date: 03/27/94 1:17a Subj: CMPQWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FR No matter who you ask about OLR's you will get the same answer. Try FRthem both, compare them, and then pick the one that will meet your FRneeds, wants, and desires. FR <== Forrest ==> I think you are probably right, there just seem to be so many and I though it might be useful if someone who has experience with almost all of them could post a little pros/cons message about the relative features of each like: WaveRDR: solid/bluewave & QWK support, truncates quoting CMPQWK: ?????????? Paperboy: provides built in ANSI w/out external viewer, very configurable, database export, buggy in current BETA VBReader: ??????????????????? ?????????? Can anyone fill in the wholes here? Brett Brett Hays --- * WaveRdr 1.01 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: HighSierra Online * Lake Tahoe CA * 916/577-4438 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 139 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/29/94 6:49p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jeff ! Wednesday March 23 1994 21:29, Jeff Bowman wrote to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp Steal one .... (thats the cheapest) Lantastic AI (adaptor independant) with some cheap Ethernet (NE2000 clones) is good & cheap & legal. Ric --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton NEC (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 140 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 3:08p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Monday March 28 1994 20:30, Murry Francis wrote to Boyd Goodin: BG>> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>> me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>> way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, as MF> soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 MF> backbone is no longer intact. Mix them with USEnet, see what happens.....I MF> don't think you would like that reaction either. How about Rime....try MF> that one. The point I was making was that I do have grounds to complain to MF> you, if I wanted to file a policy complaint it would have been done long MF> ago, that is not what this communications hobby is about with me.....I MF> feel that we can communicate and resolve any problems. Remeber this is not MF> a hobby with you, it is a business, and you get paid to hear my input on MF> your service to me, my suggestion to you is that you swallow what you have MF> before you bite off another piece, you are trying to implement to many MF> things at one time, and you are not surrounded with "over achievers" down MF> their, seems like you are one overworked person, and you truly do need MF> someone on your team to pull the load too. ...Murry -+- MF> GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - MF> Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ***> [Soap-Box Mode ON] IMHO.. You should Drop your Planet Connect Connection and return to the Phone line connection, where you will no longer have access to all the Added benifits provided by Planet Connect.. That way, you can Keep your Precious FIDO Pure Elision in tack... If you Pulled your head out of the sand long enough to look around.. you might Notice there are maybe a Dozen or so echo's still being distributed via the Standard Fido Backbone Phone line connection, that are not listed in the FIDONET.NA OH, BTW, you don't seem to have any trouble whining and bitching in this Public Echo, that also is not listed in Fidonet.na?? you have no right dictating to the rest of the 300 Plus Customers of Planet Connect, what should or should not be distributed.. PC is NOT a FIDONET Backbone.. they ONLY make available what they get from the Southern Star, to Systems that Contract for their services, that jus happens to include Fido Echo's along with a Whole lot More.. If you not happy with their Service.. then PLEASE Jump ship and go fly a Kite or something, IMHO, I think a lot of satisfied PC Customers would be happy to see you give your Money and your LIP Service back to the Phone company.. ***> [Soap-Box Mode OFF] Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 141 To: CHRISTOPHER JONG Date: 03/30/94 3:22p Subj: This Base Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello CHRISTOPHER! Sunday March 27 1994 12:07, CHRISTOPHER JONG wrote to ALL: CJ> I'm just wondering, what do we talk about in this specific base? CJ> CJ> -+- GOMail v1.2 [92-0513] CJ> + Origin: The Shareware Exchange! [415]992-4320 <Daly City, CA> CJ> (1:125/85) Technical aspects of the Planet Connect Satellite Feed.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 142 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/30/94 6:44a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <03/28/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> DW|Mac- MB> |Here's my CONFIG.SYS, some of it gotted wrapped off the screen, but I MB> |think I've got everything here. Remember, Wildmail still runs abysmall MB> |slow(60 mpm or so) and I can only get 499K or so windows with the serv MB> |loaded. I'm I'm not thrilled with the way this has worked out, but it MB> |does work(kinda). MB> Sounds like you've got much the same problems I'm having. Wonder where MB> those folks are with configs that toss some 300/min? <g> I can only MB> get 480k per WC window with all the overhead loaded. MB> DW|Anybody else who has a better idea, feel free to jump in here. MB> |Particularly if you've got Planet Connect running under Desqview. That MB> |would solve a few more of my problems if I could run everything on one MB> I wouldn't even attempt that (your machine IMHO would drop to a crawl MB> even if you could). To not slow down my BBS machine, I have all the MB> message bases, WM, and TNET on the Satellite machine. That processor MB> brings in PC and tosses all the mail. The BBS machine is not used at MB> all so there is no slow down at all except when WCFF is tossing the MB> files to the BBS machine. MB> Looks like you have pretty much the same setup as I. How do you have MB> SERVER set up? Could I see your STARTNET.BAT? Here's my STARTNET.BAT. Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was configured for me by the software setup routine. @ECHO OFF ECHO>LANISUP.NOW SET LAN_DIR=C:\LANTASTI.NET SET LAN_CFG=C:\LANTASTI PATH C:\LANTASTI;%PATH% SHARE /L:200 ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 AEX IRQ=15 IOBASE=300 VERBOSE ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 AILANBIO ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 REDIR DRAGNET_BBS LOGINS=4 ::C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 SERVER AEX IRQ=15 IOBASE=300 VERBOSE AILANBIO REDIR DRAGNET_BBS LOGINS=4 SERVER NET LOGIN/WAIT \\DRAGNET_BBS DRAGNET_BBS NET USE H: \\DRAGNET_BBS\C-DRIVE NET USE I: \\DRAGNET_BBS\D-DRIVE NET USE J: \\DRAGNET_BBS\E-DRIVE NET USE K: \\DRAGNET_BBS\F-DRIVE NET USE L: \\DRAGNET_BBS\G-DRIVE NET USE LPT1: \\DRAGNET_BBS\@PRINTER NET LPT TIMEOUT 10 NET POSTBOX * WCE 1.5/2064 * Taglines that make you go "Hmmm..." --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD WALLEN Number: 143 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/30/94 9:51a Subj: Re: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=>On 15 Mar 94 14:37:28, Marty Duplissey retorted to All<=- -=>about Fix For Wcff and raid<=- Hello Marty, MD> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with MD> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up MD> for freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make MD> multiple passes at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate MD> wcff.cfg file. Let me know if there is any interest before we waste MD> the bandwith to distribute it. I'm interested... the node handling mail from the bird is tossing the files with wcff and I had to use 3 config files... one would reboot the system, 2 would just lockup... not fun on a network...<g> Alittle more each day... Richard ... Go straight to the docs. Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200! --- * Origin: <<C>> it on! On-Line After Late Night *BBS* Line #@ (1:3625/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 144 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 03/30/94 4:54a Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Sloan wrote in a message to Jason Klank: DS> just got my phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 DS> times in a row in the evening at two different intervals, DS> for the past week with no response. Maybe you should work on Whew! I thought it was just me that was having problems getting that file, Dave. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 145 To: BILL CLARK Date: 03/30/94 3:57p Subj: Utilities Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! In a message to Joe Lyda <03/29/94> Bill Clark wrote: BC> In a msg on <Mar 28 02:24>, JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 writes: BC> JL> I have written 3 utilities that I use to handle the mail and BC> JL> files after PCFU sends them to my Toss directory. MailMove will BC> Joe, why don't you ask Boyd for a Password for PCUTILS and Hatch those fi BC> into PCUTILS. You could then distribute the files via the satellite, and BC> sure there are many out there that would take advantage of them. BC> Same goes to other utility programmers writing software to address Planet BC> Connect "pecularities". The file area exists for distribution of those t BC> of files; why not take advantage of it? Will do it, Thanks. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * In a VERY weak moment, I started a BBS. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 146 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 03/30/94 6:13p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> How do I do it? CW> Scenario: CW> I feed 6-8 other systems both FidoNet/FileBone. What I'd CW> like to do is continue this and add in InterNet CW> e-mail/UseNet. Where do I start? CW> I know I need a host.domain... Where does this info come CW> from? HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or was it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide you with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a host.domain. --jah ... Ben Dover & C. Howit Feels -- Attorneys at Law --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 147 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/30/94 6:27p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you c -> those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it easy for y -> easy for us. Jim, I had suggested the same thing at one time. However, after talking with Boyd, I understand the reasoning for the K12 being in \bridge\files area. If it has it's own rulebase, then we would have to call a different system to return mail as Boyd's inbound would consider the mail to be bad messages. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS HILL Number: 148 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/30/94 9:51p Subj: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jim Dunmyer to Boyd Goodin <=- JD> Boyd, JD> Why not put that K_12 stuff in a seperate RULEBASE or whatever you JD> call it so those who don't want it can send it to NULL? That makes it JD> easy for you, and easy for us. I second that idea. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: BabbleNet TBBS - Planet Connected in MI! (1:159/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS HILL Number: 149 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 9:53p Subj: LANTASTIC AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Rick Weber to All <=- RW> Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their RW> satellite machine. Works fine here in Lansing with Lantastic 5.0 and some 386s and 486s and PC. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: BabbleNet TBBS - Planet Connected in MI! (1:159/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 150 To: ALL Date: 03/30/94 8:04p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just had a problem with my Planet Connect Data Reciever that started showing almost 90% errors... Planet Systems sent me a new data reciever with no questions asked, and shipped it next day.. However, as hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about $20.00 (well worth the insurance of downtime and missed data) is about the whole deal, and is very quiet to boot.... Must give a hand to Planet Systems, in particular Johnny, He (they) have really be great at tech support for me... John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 151 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 03/30/94 12:49p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Baginski wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: JB> Plannet Connect sends a crapload of file/echo areas, what's JB> the difference if there are more echos that aren't JB> "official", or does _everyone_ just import _everything_ that JB> comes down? What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fidonet downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty echos out there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to the backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LITTLE Number: 152 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 12:31p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Murry Francis: BG> going to the dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? BG> Anyone want to be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw Who is the moderator of this group? Thanks, John --- * Origin: Split HoriZons*(905)276-4276/6466*1.7Gigs (1:259/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 153 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 12:46a Subj: Cycles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! What time does the "first" cycle of the day begin? I thought it was 7:45am so I was firing up PC around 7:40..... This doesn't seem to be correct. Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/177) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 154 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 3:18p Subj: Re: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sun 27-Mar-1994 23:47 thus spake Rick Weber unto All: RW> Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite RW> machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. RW> The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW> than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW> something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick I'm using Lan AI 5.0 and everything has been running real smooth. --- GoldED 2.42a/Intermail 2.26/FastEcho 1.40/TAG 2.6F3b Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 155 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 12:48a Subj: TICKPROC v2.4 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No For the many of you that have been netmailing me to see when the new version of TickProc would be available, I am happy to announce that TickProc v2.4 is now available for file request. TickProc allows you to manage ticks and their attached file with out having to dig out your text editor and read the tick files manually. TickProc is not automated, there are already good programs available like Allfix that will do that for you. TickProc simply makes cleaning up loose tick files a breaze. FEATURES OF VERSION 2.4 : · One tick per line on the screen allows you to view several ticks at a time. · Deletion of a tick file also removes its associated file if present. · Move a tick and its associated file to another drive or directory. · Rename the area name in a tick file for rerouting. · Output list of files (with its area name, size, and description) to a text file or printer. · Tagging operations allow changes to multiple files at one time. · View the actual tick file for seenby's or whatever. · View FileBone.NA to read descriptions or areas. · View the current compressed file (if present) in Shez. · Configuration stored in .EXE file. · Sort list of files by areaname, filename, size, or extension. · Tag files by filespec. · Generate tick files for orphan files. · Delete only Tick file. · Ability to rename tick file if extension is not *.TIC --- * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 156 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 1:32a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TW_FILE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 266/76 not authorized to create area 'FTSC' Address 140/72 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3811/340 not authorized to create area 'THEWORD' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 11/3 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 11/3 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 11/600 not authorized to create area 'AIRMED' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_SALE' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'FL_LIVING' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_SYSOP' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'NCSALE' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'NC_ANYTHING' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'ENC_ECHO' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'FLSINGLES' Address 123/301 not authorized to create area 'GA_CHAT' Address 108/280 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 108/280 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 398/2 not authorized to create area 'AUG-GEN' Address 2800/10 not authorized to create area 'KANSAS' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 2619/50 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 151/107 not authorized to create area 'INSURANCE' Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 11/600 not authorized to create area 'WALRUS' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 266/22 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 157/200 not authorized to create area 'ALZHEIMERS' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 157 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 5:18a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT MF> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am K12_ > NUL Should do the trick for you. MF> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are MF> NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they should NOT be MF> mixed in with my daily fidonet echomail. You are NOT MF> authorized to add areas on my system that are not Whether or not K12_ echo's are in the Fidonet.na listing really has NO bearing on what Boyd does with PC. This is NOT a strictly Fidonet service. On another tact the K12_ work that Jack Crawford is doing is something that is good for the nation as a whole and I think it is GREAT that he is getting it on PC. I have know Jack for quite some years (in fact our daughters used to be e-mail penpals) and he is to be thanked not told his echos are Bad echomail. MF> This is considered annoying behavior. Nope.......Your message is considered annoying behavior. Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 158 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 03/30/94 9:42a Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TH>I haven't been following this echo lately, but a while back there was alot o TH>discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having a way to TH>send replies back to PC. Boyd indicated that they were working on setting up TH>address for us so theat this would be possible. TH>Has this been done? I've been waiting for this so I could start receiving th TH>feed. Has anything been done? Hi Thomas, I talked sometime ago with Boyd about this and he said that they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice provider to recommend. --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 159 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 03/29/94 7:34p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP> > Stop these infractions at once! This is considered annoying MP> > behavior. MP>Are you a PC downlink..? Ever hear of the echo PCSITES...? Now what do you think, can you read a message before answering it? YES. MP>I like K12 Freeway echoes just like they are and so do MP>several other folks who pay big money. We discuss it in an I don't, and so don't several other folks who pay big money. MP>echo setup for us folks with a common interest. If you don't MP>like what you get for your money ask for a refund. There are YOU, are not the one to answer for Boyd! Unless you are handing out refunds, I suggest you "put a sock in it." MP>There are many folks out here who are tired of people shooting PC MP>down and particularly in a Public echo....! I am very, very happy MP>with saving (x) dollars....so are many other folks who are MP>downlinking the signal from Planet Connect. This is a SERVICE I pay for, and I have a right to speak my mind on the service I recieve, if you want to live like a refugee and be gracious for the privledge to buy a product, then DO SO, by all means. I am happy with saving dollars also, just like all the rest of the PC downlinks, but that does NOT mean I am going to listen to your humble tripe. Go save the whales or something.....Planet Connect is doing fine. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 160 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 03/29/94 7:46p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>Better still just disconnect? then you will not have any LG>problems at all? Just your phone bill. Thanks for the advice Laz, but I pay just like you, and have a right to voice my oppinions weather you or MurrAy like them or not. I am not disconnecting a thing, I live in the USA where you can speak up and say whats on your mind. LG>** Boyd ** I still beleive you are doing an admirable job LG>with this thing! I still prefer your service over to the LG>phone by a long shot! Just count to 10 when you get a message LG>like this. I know the silent majority is behind you 100%. LG>There are growing pains along the way, but we all go through LG>it just setting up a BBS. Laz, is this where you suck up to Boyd, like you think he is going to get mad and quit........this is discusting. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 161 To: RALPH ZAUNER Date: 03/29/94 7:51p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RZ>BTW I am very happy with the current way things are running, RZ>If you aren't then send your PC stuff back and go back to RZ>using the local phone company. RZ>Ralph Zauner Ralph, what is with you telling me what to spend my money on? That is not an option here, because I choose to get a response from Boyd, you guys act like I am getting a favor from him, and should shut up, before he gets mad at all of you and quits. Get real here, I have a right to my oppinion as you do, but telling me to send my stuff back sounds a bit sarcastic. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 162 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 03/29/94 7:59p Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH>Connect. But most of us, that is, those of us with working JH>grey matter, JH>BTW, your lack of intelligence and your childish posts are JH>excessively JH>annoying. I can see personal attacks are not beneath your standards, I suggest you file a PC then. Show me how high your IQ is. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 163 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 03/29/94 10:07p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV>I find your message to be annoying behavior.. Hit The "N" Key. GV>I would have prefered that your would have shown the Common GV>decency to have Sent you Message to Boyd via NETMAIL or GV>Called him up Voice.. That is beginnig to make sense here, but not because YOU preferred it. GV>FYI, there are lots of subscribers to the Planet Connect GV>Service that has Nothing to do with FidoNET... Count them for me..... GV>PC is not an Excusively FIDO Distribution Service... Did anyone say they were? GV>IMHO, you have serveral choices.. Thanks for your Oppinion, but I have made my choice, I voiced MY Oppinion. GV>3. Apologize to the 300 Plus Planet Connect Subscribers who GV>may like the services that are being provide by PC.. You are taking alot in ASSuming this. I never said I didn't like the service, I just stated a flaw in IMHO. You on the other hand figure I can say nothing to Boyd about what I get.......WRONG. You have the right to state that you WANT K12_ areas, and I will not attack YOU for it, please do the same for me. Murry Francis - NET2215 NFC --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 164 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 03/30/94 4:22p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GC>Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to I am in a minority to say the least, I obviously will go along with the majority here, and shut up, I do appreciate all the name calling I recieved, from others in here. Thank you for staying on the subject. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 165 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 03/30/94 9:44p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC GS>service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont GS>want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST GS>the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your GS>butt..... I have decided to go with the flow on this, but you are mis informed if you think I would be causing anyone to spend more $$$. But I guess a good defense is to use a smoke screen like $$$. Using another aka and making another automatic poll will not cost more $$$. I give up, the name calling, flaming, and general hog wash responces are overwhelming. I agree to go with the majority here, but I sure don't want to be associated with alot of nodes who post in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 166 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 03/30/94 10:36p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> Maybe you *should* take the K12 echoes, Murry. This is one MB> worst grammatical faux pas I as a teacher have to endure. Please excuse my ignorance, for i am a product of the public school system, but since graduation, I have had no problems with my employee's understanding my drift. I am sure pompous remarks are your specialty. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 167 To: JEFF WARD Date: 03/30/94 9:00a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 28 21:47>, Jeff Ward (1:3667/500@fidonet.org) writes: JW>> To this Murry character, please, be an adult and discuss this JW>>rationally without flaming. Otherwise, why don't you take the refund JW>>offer PC has for 60 days and let the rest of us enjoy our systems. If JW>>out fo the sixty day period, sell it to someone who would appreciate it JW>>more than you. I'll gladly buy it. I'm sitting here going through the 'cooling off' period waiting for the receiver to be built, and I've got almost another 3 weeks of anticipation. I'll buy his system in a heartbeat! ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a5 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/343) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 168 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/30/94 4:02p Subj: Re: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murray, the "filebone" message echos and the "privately distributed" Planet Connect echos (PCSITES, PCSTATS, PLANET_CONNECT) are mixed in with the backbone echos now. I don't know of any other convenient way to do it. So Boyd will create a new list (planet.na) of bird echos not listed anywhere else. --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 169 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 10:31p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite > machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. We are running the sat machine under Lantastic AI 5.0, and it works just fine. I have another machine wake up every few hours and grab files off the sat machine's drive. No problems with lockups. I did run into one weird problem a few weeks ago on a LAN'ed machine. It would run programs on its local drive just fine, but when the same program was run on a network drive, the machine would hang. Ended up replacing the motherboard, and it's now working fine... Hope this helps. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 170 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/28/94 9:05p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In article 'Test', Brian Stein wrote: BS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. BS> BS> Brian Hello Brian. Your test reached the Power House BBS in Mara BC... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 171 To: ALL Date: 03/28/94 9:24p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello every one. I just got this thing up and running. I'm located in an area of BC Canada that has a major flaw in getting a reliable Fido feed. So needless to say I was eager to get connected via satellite. I'm running on an Amiga 3000T and fortunately, I also have an IBM emulator that allows me to run the software. There is one draw back though. My BBS and mail tosser run on the Amiga side and everything needs to be over handled to get it processed. Boyd, if you're reading this, perhaps you could give heavy concideration to developing Amiga software that would let other Amiga oriented BBS's access the satellite feeds. I know....There are more IBM BBS's out there than AMiga, BUT there is a large market that Planet Connect is missing. Give it some thought anyway. Anyway it's great to be aboard...... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 172 To: ALL Date: 03/29/94 6:31a Subj: Receiving Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anyone explain to me what's happening in this situation?? File 0000FFFF.MO0 is coming down the line. Stats say it's size is 400088, blocks 784. When completed the screen shows 0000FFFF.MO1 as next. Curent file still shows 0000FFFF.MO0 as the file being sent, files size stays the same, blocks increase to 1566. I've noticed too that the screen tells me that Fidobone.NA is coming but I can't find it in any directories, and it doesn't show up in the stats line. Thanks..... __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 173 To: JEFF MURPHY Date: 03/30/94 12:29p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's a communications problem, right? He didn't know he was going to be > getting these additional echos, of if he did, has no clue how to manage > his system without getting on you. Hmm.. I have seen messages about the echos before they got started.. Tag names and descriptions. They have been posted numerous times. So what else can Boyd do? I personally prefer them this way. I don't have to hastle with them. I have the choice what I want to do. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 174 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 9:35p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Mar 27 23:47>, Rick Weber writes: RW>The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW>than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW>something. Any help would be appreciated. Oh, it's seeing the dongle. Otherwise it wouldn't even see a single block. My 386dx/25 would run PCMAIN just fine under DV on the network as long as that node did not incur any heavy network traffic and none of the other workstations logged in. It may have been the 3C507 card I was using, but when any station polled the network for a network name, the REDIR program would freeze the PCMAIN station long enough to lock up the downlink. I never found a solution except to reboot the machine to load the network after each cycle. Some other things that you need to check that might help. If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without it under DV or a network. Load X00 as as fossil driver and recapture the port just prior to loading PCMAIN. This pretty much took care of any problems I had after solving the network problem. Haven't had a lock up since. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 175 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/30/94 6:20a Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Ronnie Toth rambled about RADIST Announcement to RADIST Interests <=- RT> Effective April 1, 1994 RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! About time! ;-) ... I think I'm lost. Can you direct me to the Information SuperHighway? --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. Ashland, KY 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 176 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/30/94 6:23a Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Murry Francis rambled about School echoes available! to Boyd Goodin <=- BG> Well then why dont you put a policy complaint against BG>me. I never told you it is manditory to carry these. By the BG>way Zone 1 backbone is still intact is it not? MF> They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist adressing, MF> as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 backbone, then the Z1 < Remainder of the drivel deleted! > I'll go a percentage if you will give him a refund and take away his dish! I don't carry the K12 stuff either, but I also don't carry over half of the BackBone either. Can you remove the stuff I don't carry from the satellite? ;-) ... Any fool can criticize, condemn, & complain. And most do. --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. Ashland, KY 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 177 To: DON PACKWOOD Date: 03/29/94 10:25p Subj: FidoNet Mail Bungles.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Don! 26 Mar 94 18:17, Greg Shaffer wrote to Don Packwood: DP>> I have noticed over the past several days that several DP>> FidoNet mail packets have not appeared. Some days as may as DP>> 2/3's of the bundles listed in the UPLD.LST are not found DP>> here. There is no record in the SKYMAIL.INX or the *.LOG DP>> that they were deleted. While I am remote for the actual DP>> sattelite system, and only process the FidoNet mail, I was DP>> wondering if this is a local problem or if there is a mass DP>> of missing FidoNet mail bundles. Everything has arrived here, too. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 178 To: BRIAN STEIN Date: 03/29/94 10:27p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Brian! 27 Mar 94 03:42, Brian Stein wrote to All: JS> This is a test...please respond. Ignore after: Wednesday the 31st. Made it into Yellowknife, NWT, Canada on the 29th. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 179 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/29/94 10:32p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kim! 27 Mar 94 10:20, Kim Bergman wrote to Boyd Goodin: I too am anxious to run PC under OS2. I still have to receive my copy of OS2 as I am upgrading from Windows. I am not having success multitasking under Windows. PC told me that an OS2 version will be available soon. I do hope that it will be runnable without any problems. Do you have much experience with OS2? I also would like specific details of installation and I think it would be nice if PC provided us with details. I am sure there must be many people out there who want to try/ are trying OS2. Talk to you later. JB> In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". These JB> references lead me to believe that PC is working on eliminating the dongle JB> altogether. Is this true? If so, when do you expect the dongleless JB> version to be available? BTW, I passed through Hanna last January on my way from Milk River to Edmonton. Stopped at the KFC for lunch too! Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 180 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 03/30/94 10:27p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! 28 Mar 94 17:19, Tim Lajoie wrote to Boyd Goodin: -> >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> >> want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> >> K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no ->> ->> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s ->> something that is good for education (God knows this country needs it ->> get slapped up one side of ya and down the other. I have been very pa ->> quite while seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the ->> Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to be the moderat ->> guess this is the straw that broke the camels back. You guys want to ->> ball? Fine. I'm all ready to take my first swing. I am no public rela ->> Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the morning, read ->> that does not make sense and then working all day at an office taking ->> calls and making sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, co ->> here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you get your ->> files. Anybody want a job? ->> ->> P.S. Have a nice day! ->> ->> ...Boyd JL> Boyd, I REALLY feel sorry for you. It seems like everytime you try JL> to improve the setup, some ya-ho jumps out from under his rock and tries JL> to make life the pitts for the rest of us! I've seen talk about the I agree. I think PC is doing a bangup job as far as I am concerned. Everyone in my net is really pleased with the PC feed and the savings in phone bills that we are enjoying. Boyd, keep up the good work. JL> policy4 in here, this little round of BS and personally I am SICK of the JL> entire thing. I dropped fido because of this crap and then when I hooked JL> into PC for the NewsGroups, I figured what the heck, I'm getting the JL> full feed, why not. Its really becoming quite clear again. Want a JL> moderator, I'd glady do the job, but be forewarned, I WON'T take the JL> crap thats been going on. JL> think<G>! I was considering adding a pagesat system to my setup as well, JL> but when I read your realtime.txt doc, I was VERY HAPPY. PLEASE, PLEASE, JL> PLEASE keep pushing forward. For those that are ill equipped to handle JL> the future, maybe they should pull the plug on their satellite JL> receiver and keep dreaming of their 286's and 40 meg HD's. I think you are pushing it here. I think you ahve to realize that not all of us can be as lucky(?) as you are perhaps with what I imagine is a dedicated system. I don not consider myself "ill equipped" because I share my satellite dish with TV viewing nor do I consider myself as dreaming of my 286 and 40 meg HD. For your information, both my CPU and HD are much more powerful than that. I do not have any objection to you saying that you would like to see realtime. That is your prerogative and it is a free world. What I strenuously object to though is your making the rest of us sound like freaks. JL> You know Boyd, it always seems to be the minority that squeaks the JL> loudest. I think we've proven that here. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!! Boyd, do keep up the great work but please remember that you have a wide clientele to serve, both those who have it all (!) and those who enjoy this as a hobby. Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 181 To: KEVIN LECHNER Date: 03/30/94 9:32a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 23 Mar 94, Jeff Bowman writes to All: > > JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running > JB> <<sig.imp > > find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work > fine and can usually be found pretty inexpensive > ($15-20ea). Put them together with a couple of copies > of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, > connectors and terminators and you have a network for > under $200.00. Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes with a copy of lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for about 40$ . ....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: DreamTime BBS Sysops Point / Saskatoon SK (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 182 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 03/30/94 5:51p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Gene Balmain on Tue Mar 29 1994 05:35 pm > Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: > > > GB> I think John is pissed off that the game has changed....... > > No I am pissed off that you think that going to a convention gives you the > right to decide who can be in that hobbie and who can't. What gave you the > right to tell someone to get out of BBSing? Don't answer with that same kin > of carp you just sent about BBSCON ect, that didn't give you the right...so > EXACTLY what gives you that right? The fact that you are a "hanger on" at a > Pay BBS? Your not the sysop, Frank Sener is. > > Does being a Co-sysop of a pay BBS give you the belief that you have the rig > to decide who can run a BBS? > And the horse you rode in on John... What does the term Co- Mean? Last time I checked it ment Equal. BTW the name on PC contract is Gene.. I guess Frank cant use that service huh? OK how about this then "John".... I run an Online Information Service.. not a BBS. Ok happy now? No I dont think so. As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor are you thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here is to do nothing but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business Dealings! Can we end this thread now....... GENE --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 183 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 03/30/94 8:44p Subj: Re: Need A Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH| MB> JB|her eis a sugestion... use a program by OCR called SORTPKT, | MB> |you will toss 380-600 message per minute JH| MB> Thanks. I'll grab it. JH|OK...who's got that at High Speed and under what FREQ name? It's a utility that *comes* with Wildmail. It sure did up my tossing rate by a bunch (over 3 times as fast). You might want to check it out - especially if you have WM. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 184 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 03/29/94 8:25p Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is the average tossing time for the full fido feed? > From the posts which I have read, our time is very short of > being average. Using Gecho feeding the entire backbone to 2 nodes and most of it to 3 more about 1-2 hours (The slow down is compressing the 8 MB single outbound queue files for D'Bridge). With Gomail about 4-6 Hours. What type of message base are you feeding it into. Thomas Kinnen Thomas.Kinnen@sobhrach.com --- InterMail 2.21 * Origin: Tom's Laptop Control Center, On The Road, U.S.A. (1:371/3901.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL LABBE Number: 185 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 03/30/94 7:47a Subj: Re: Ping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 03-22-94 15:37 some guy named Tim Trahan was blabbing his guts out to All TT> Hi all, just got everything working on my end (I hope) and thought I TT> would send out a message to make sure everything is set up correctly. TT> This is the second time arround, first one didn't work! Yep, we've gotcha! :) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Dave's Cave (an OS/2 BBS!) 604-431-6407 (1:153/866) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 186 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/30/94 8:47p Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick, * In a message originally to All, Rick Weber said: > Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running > their satellite > machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up > PCSKY. > The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks > up tighter > than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer > port or > something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick I had the same thing here, using Novell Lite. My problem went away after I upgraded the machine I was using for the sat./server to a 486. I had tried it with a 286/12, 16, and 20. None of these would run both at the same time even though the drives were fairly quick. It would probably work on most 386's, but I didn't bother. I wanted to upgrade, and there was a sale here, and I picked up some 486/33 MB's with CPU's for 178.00 bucks each. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 187 To: GREG ROSLER Date: 03/30/94 9:10a Subj: K12 Stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >RE: Re: ky_da da da >BY: Boyd Goodin to Murry Francis on Mon Mar 28 1994 02:00 am > >Boyd, that guy is a flake. Keep up the good work. If they don't want the echo >they can send it to the bit bucket! > >Please keep these echos. > > >Thanks Boyd. Your doing a hell of a good job. > > >Signed, >A very satisified customer, >Greg >--- Synchronet > * Origin: In Your Face BBS! 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) I couldn't agree more! (another Synchronet/Planet Connect Sysop) +---------------+---------------------------------------------+ | Mark Krieg | YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 | | Cool Baby BBS | FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| | | York, Pa USA | Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | | | 717-751-0855 | RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] | +---------------+------------------------------oOO--(__)--OOo-+ * SLMR 2.1a * CRUSHER: Have you seen Wesley? WORF: No I have not *BURP! --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 188 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/01/94 10:00a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: 152 Read: NO Private: No -> Who is the moderator of this group? Me. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 189 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 10:02a Subj: Re: School Echoes Availab Refer: 162 Read: NO Private: No -> I can see personal attacks are not beneath your standards, I sug -> file a PC then. Show me how high your IQ is. I assume that you havn't seen my previous posts to you. Here it is again: IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THREAD I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR FEED TO THIS ECHO. This is your last chance. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 190 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 03/31/94 9:32a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene Balmain wrote in a message to John Le Duc: GB> And the horse you rode in on John... Nice! Couldn't answer the question, HUH? GB> What does the term Co- Mean? Last time I checked it ment Equal. Membership in Fidonet is defined by the nodelist, you're name is not in it. As I said, you're not a sysop, nor a member of Fido. If you wish the nodelist entry changed, send the proper request. As NC I will deal with it.... GB> As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to GB> partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor GB> are you thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here GB> is to do nothing but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business GB> Dealings! Not too suprisingly, your thinking on this is rather poor. I own the PC dish that the Net209 feeds from for it's files areas and PCUSENET files. I thought about, then bought it from Dave James. Now your deciding who may participate in this echo too, huh? By what right? I really DO want to know what it is that makes you feel that out of 16,000+ members of Fido, and an even larger number of sysops on other systems, that YOU are the one who can decide who may and who may not run a BBS (or even participate in this echo). Is it the fact that you charge for access to your BBS? [chuckle] The fact that you went to BBScon? Or is it maybe that you have your own subscription to Boardwatch? Or is it simply a flaw in your character? TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 191 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 7:09p Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! Wednesday March 30 1994 16:22, Murry Francis wrote to Glenn Caleval: GC>> Again, you are off the mark. Over the next year I hope to MF> MF> I am in a minority to say the least, I obviously will go along with MF> the majority here, and shut up, MF> Murry -+- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. + Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - MF> Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) I agree with your desision... it was yours to make... Congradulations.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Faster than a one-Legged man in an ass-kicking contest! (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 192 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 03/31/94 3:57p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> On (27 Mar 94) Kim Bergman wrote to Boyd Goodin... KB> Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the KB> PC gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that KB> there were problems with KB> reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided that I should ask before KB> spending my dough. I'm not sure if it was you I talked to but I was KB> told that everything works fine under 2.1 as long KB> as the parallel port KB> is configured sharable. JG> There are a number of folks who are running under OS/2. They have JG> relayed info to us of the nature that you mentioned here. Since JG> the software is not a true OS/2 or DesqView application, this is JG> something that we are not able to help with, other than to pass JG> on the info that these OS/2 gurus have given us. JG> The company that produces the dongles supplied for Planet Connect Johnny, If you know of a number of people ACTUALY running PC on OS/2, would you share their names with us? I don't believe ANYONE here has actualy seen a message from anyone actualy running PC on OS/2 with the Dongle. A couple of people have said how it SHOULD work, but I haven't seen a report from anyone saying they're actualy doing it. A lot of us have asked for such people to make themselves known........ not a word! A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe anyone is doing it! Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 193 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/31/94 4:12p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Hello Boyd, KB> Several weeks ago I phoned Planet Connect to enquire about using the PC KB> gear under OS/2 ver.2.1. I had heard that there were KB> problems with reading the dongle under OS/2 and decided KB> that I should ask before spending my dough. I'm not KB> sure if it was you I talked to but I was told that KB> everything works fine under 2.1 as long as the parallel KB> port is configured sharable. KB> awaiting its arrival. Now I hear from several OS/2 KB> users that the dongle does not work under OS/2 2.1 even KB> if the port is sharable. You heard right the last time.<g> At this time there have been a couple of people stating how it SHOULD work, but nobody has stated that they are ACTUALY doing it. My bet is that NOBODY is ACTUALY using PC on OS/2 with the current dongle. I don't believe the people at Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, unless they have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 194 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 03/31/94 7:32p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fid -> downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty -> there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to -> backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. Actually, what you would be doing is adding it to PLanet Connect, NOT the Fido Backbone as areas that are not on the backbone would just goto the bit bucket when they arrived at 396/1 (Southern Star), that is assuming that Boyd sent them to him, which he wouldn't. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 195 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 6:55a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT} MB-> I need some help desperately with the following configuration: TT} MB-> TT} MB-> Wildcat 3.9 TT} MB-> Lantastic 5.0 TT} MB-> DESQview/QEMM (latest) TT} MB-> Wildmail 3.1 (problem - slow tossing around 60/min) TT} Mac, your slow tossing problem can be solved in these steps: <much deleted> -------------------------------------------- Thanks for the information. Your message was well thought out and you hit just about all the tweaks. I hadn't heard of the dual hard drive scheme. I'm gonna play with that one. Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any one subdirectory. In other words, don't take the MSG???.DIA/DAT/IX files from 200 conferences and put them all into one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many files to find the right message datafile group. Thanks again for lettin all yer tricks outa the bag... Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 196 To: RICK WEBER Date: 03/31/94 10:58a Subj: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW>Has anyone had the problem with Lantastic of not running their satellite RW>machine. Everything works fine except when I try to bring up PCSKY. RW>The software comes up receives 13 to 15 blocks and then locks up tighter RW>than a drum. It seems it's not seeing the key on the printer port or RW>something. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick No problem here running a Lantastic server as the PC machine. The softwarte will not load if it does not read the dongle. Sounds like your COM port. Do you have 16550's installed? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 197 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 12:31a Subj: School echoes available! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They should not be mixed in with the fidonet nodelist > adressing, as soon as you do that, and mix them in with Z1 > backbone, then the Z1 backbone is no longer intact. Bullshit! Every local system and hub in Fidonet transmits non-backbone conferences in one way or another whether it be the local sysop chat or the regional "whatever" conferences and they do it with their Fido addresses. This does not compromise the "backbone" in any way, shape or form. Boyd's system is a legitimate Fido node and he can carry any number of Non-Backbone conferences that he chooses just as you can. Besides that, Boyds company owns the data stream and they can transmit anything they want on it. You really have no say on this point nor do I. Go ahead and file a "policy complaint" and see how fast you are laughed out of Fido. You're the one who is annoying in this case, perhaps excessively so... Ed Marquis - NEC379 --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RYAN POTTS Number: 198 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 03/31/94 11:22a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ric Walsh wrote in a message to Jeff Bowman: RW> Hi Jeff ! RW> Wednesday March 23 1994 21:29, Jeff Bowman wrote to All: JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running JB> <<sig.imp RW> Steal one .... (thats the cheapest) RW> Lantastic AI (adaptor independant) with some cheap Ethernet RW> (NE2000 clones) is good & cheap & legal. Exactomundo! I bought a couple cards which I consider to quit e inexpensive at $50 a piece. These are ne2000 compatible (work flawlessly with Lantastic/Should work just as well with Novell as well). The brand name on my cards is Addtron Technologies. The card is a 16-bit card running at 10 mega bits. I can be jumpered to any one of I think 5-6 different irqs and about 4-5 different base addresses as well. Thanks, Ryan --- * Origin: Midnight Express, Fairlawn Ohio (1:157/110) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 199 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 10:52p Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know why the following echo's are not listed or carried in the backbone? 1.. CRAFTING-ANNOUNCE 2.. EP-ANNOUNCE 3.. WINNTFA 4.. SF-ANNOUNCE 5.. ANNOUNCE.CLN 6.. MACFILES There are probably others, but these are the ones I am interested in. I was going to turn them on and see what the "file flow" would be and if we are getting the ones listed as being carried. Sorry, no cute picture here --> -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 200 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 10:07p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murry Francis wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Boyd didnt -start- those echos......He added them to the PC GS>service which is A-OK with the bulk of us......If you dont GS>want them then toss them to the bit bucket....But dont COST GS>the other PC subscribers $$$ because you have a bug up your GS>butt..... MF> I have decided to go with the flow on this, but you are MF> mis informed if you think I would be causing anyone to spend MF> more $$$. But I guess a good defense is to use a smoke MF> screen like $$$. Using another aka and making another MF> automatic poll will not cost more $$$. Ohhh so you really think the rest of us have FREE long distance phone service? You do understand that if PC doesnt -process- those areas then those who want them will have to send their replies back to someone else? This means another long distance phone call to send replies out......That means more $$$. MF> I give up, the name MF> calling, flaming, and general hog wash responces are MF> overwhelming. I agree to go with the majority here, but I MF> sure don't want to be associated with alot of nodes who post MF> in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. THats ok......based on your posts and attitude not many of us care to associate with you anyway :) greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... He's a few fries short of a Happy Meal. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 201 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:35a Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've got an idea, how about renaming this conference to PC_DEBATE, and beginning a new moderated conference for PC Tech Support! * SLMR 2.1a * The Kernighan & Richie Virus: "C" sickness. --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 202 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 03/30/94 6:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB:}-> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with :}-> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up :}-> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multip :}-> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me :}-> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. I am also interested. Let us know when it is ready and we will pick it up or you can send it to Ron Woods so we can all get it. Cyrus ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 203 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 03/30/94 6:30p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL:}You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be :}sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. :}PSORT won't run without it. I don't run DesqView here, not sure :}if PSORT will work under DV. It does work fine with QEMM 7.03 :}and LANtastic. DL:}If you want, I can send you a text file of my setup. Won't take :}you long to get it going. I would like to see your setup file. Always nice to see another Wildcat setup for a utility! Thanks! Cyrus ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 204 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 6:41a Subj: Traffic Report Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! ********************************************************************* * Birdsoft Poster Record for Area: PLANETCONNECT * * Messages received by (1:382/8) * * Sat, Mar 26, 1994 - Wed, Mar 30, 1994 * ********************************************************************* Posts Name Average Size Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 14 Greg Shaffer 1238 1:370/510 14 John Hrusovszky 1493 1:238/300.0 12 Art Mack 1445 1:201/70 8 Jim Dunmyer 860 1:234/2 8 Jason Baginski 2199 1:170/906 8 Fred Hatfield 1243 1:396/65.0 7 Gary Hedberg 1165 1:3407/1 7 Mark Adkins 947 1:105/285 6 Dave Osborne 977 1:123/301.2 6 John Le Duc 1147 1:209/720 6 Mac Bryant 1232 1:3632/42.0 6 Tom Haavisto 1360 1:229/510 6 Dave Petrucci 977 1:2600/161 6 Murry Francis 892 1:2215/5 6 Joe Hayes 1445 1:2290/70 5 Boyd Goodin 2703 1:3615/50.1 5 George Vandervort 2856 1:382/8 5 Tony Cremonese 1275 1:326/406 5 Bill Wolf 1173 1:2235/10 4 Justin Mcdermid 1402 1:353/353 4 Kim Bergman 1530 1:358/25 4 Ken Kavanagh 1275 1:153/7070 4 MARTIN BELCKE 637 1:232/10 4 Emmett Perdue 573 1:18/2 3 Roy Timberman 1105 1:280/333 3 Jim Kreyling 850 1:275/152 3 STEVE HUSK 850 1:157/576 3 Guy VanDell 1020 1:116/80 3 Brett Hays 1105 1:203/8888.0 3 Mark Krieg 1020 1:270/612 2 Joe Patterson 1912 1:344/91 2 Patty Pickett 1147 1:380/5 2 Gene Balmain 1402 1:209/276 2 Chuck Warren 510 1:3611/15 2 Foxy Ferguson 1020 1:116/210.1 2 Rick Ashworth 892 1:108/90 2 Craig Clark 765 1:3658/1 2 Tim Lajoie 1785 1:222/21.0 2 Michael Andrews 1020 1:260/801 2 JOE LYDA 892 1:3622/1000 2 Joseph Laferla 510 1:3414/1 2 Lee Bonnifield 2805 1:3615/50.1 2 Dale Wood 1275 1:202/401 2 Dennis Powers 1020 1:141/1135 2 Floyd Drennon 1020 1:375/14 2 Jeff Murphy 1402 1:105/222.3 2 RICK COONEY 1147 1:2613/133 2 John Campbell 765 1:2602/510 2 Jim Watson 892 1:170/610 2 Roy Mumaw 1020 1:206/2601 2 John Johnson 2040 1:291/11 2 Tim Trahan 1912 1:3632/61 2 Don Waybright 892 1:264/100 2 Jack Crawford 2677 1:260/620 2 Dave Sloan 1402 1:348/105 2 Thomas Kinnen 1147 1:371/3901.2 2 Dan Cook 1147 1:202/344 1 Gary Crain 1020 1:382/92 1 Wallace Sheldon 1020 1:382/17 1 Laz Gottli 765 1:358/1 1 Tony Arcadi 510 1:272/21 1 Janis Kracht 1020 1:272/38 1 Charlie Carter 765 1:2260/1 1 Dan Williamson 1020 1:3410/0 1 Jerry Russell 765 1:374/1 1 Brian Hess 1020 1:3639/19 1 Thomas Beal 1275 1:128/135 1 Allen Cravener 510 1:2607/401 1 Cyrus Cathey 1020 1:373/27 1 James Delmerico 765 1:133/2403 1 Jeff Bowman 765 1:157/631 1 James Nerlinger 510 1:108/155 1 Johnny Green 2040 1:3615/50.4 1 Todd Lyons 765 1:3807/104 1 Gill Blue 1530 1:18/16 1 Jason Klank 765 1:3639/19 1 Paul Stewart 765 1:229/318 1 Greg Rosler 255 1:301/43 1 Dexter Wright 510 1:128/158 1 Rick Weber 765 1:2330/69 1 JOE MEADORS 765 1:160/260 1 Rob Nelson 765 1:359/200 1 Frank Sereno 1275 1:2235/10 1 PAT FINNERTY 1020 1:3627/1 1 Walter Cade 1785 1:398/2.0 1 Jason Fesler 1530 1:203/7707.1 1 Gary Barr 765 1:2310/200 1 TIMOTHY WAGONER 765 1:3400/8 1 Glenn Caleval 1275 1:140/72 1 Tracy Mickley 510 1:288/6 1 Ken Flory 765 1:305/105 1 Bill Roper 1020 1:3801/1 1 DAVID LIVINGSTON 765 1:3622/1000 1 Steve Vold 2550 1:134/5010 1 Tim Fierro 3570 1:138/165 1 Hector Mandel 1275 1:233/15 1 Henry Moore 5355 1:3639/3 1 SEBASTIAN ACOSTA 1020 1:135/94 Total = 273 by 98 authors. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Answers: Short $1, Correct $25, Dumb looks are Free (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ADAM FARKAS Number: 205 To: ALL Date: 03/27/94 12:40p Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? Ignore after April 1. -=- * SLMR 2.1 * Hello, I am part number ||+||||#||+||+|| --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 206 To: BILL ROPER Date: 03/30/94 5:06p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No < Bill is quoted as sayint to Mart> -> If you were a good guy, you'd send it to Boyd for -> distribution over the bird.... if you were a REAL good -> guy, you'd just send it to me on your nickel (g)..... True Bill, but this new PreRaid stuff is cool. You can even freq it here. ......Tell you what. Freq here or at Marty's board and we WONT EVEN SEND you a bill. <G> Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 207 To: NORM HENKE Date: 03/30/94 5:08p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running -> Install mechanical legs on it. Should be under $10,000. Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 208 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 9:42a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday March 28 1994 02:00, Boyd Goodin wrote to Murry Francis: >> I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you >> do NOT want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am >> considering these K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in >> fidonet.na or fidonet.no, they BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out NOPE just a Few sysops with BIG mouths! BG> and start something that is good for education (God knows this BG> country needs it!) and you get slapped up one side of ya and down we here love those echo and are VERY happy with the way they was added keep up the good work... BG> P.S. Have a nice day! BG> ...Boyd Thank you, Brian ... Beat inflation - steal! --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 209 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 03/31/94 3:09p Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (30 Mar 94) John Dodson wrote to Thomas Hatton... JD> TH>discussion concerning the reception of the Internet feed and having JD> a way to JD> they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an JD> administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice JD> provider to recommend. NOT CORRECT..!! Planet Connect IS planning to accept replies for Usenet at some point. There is no time table at this point. The priorty here is to get data TO you, and then to recieve it back. There are numerous problems that will have to be overcame, such as hardware, software setup, methodology, etc, etc,. When we feel as though we have all of this worked out, THEN we will look at handling these returns. This has been a constant misconception, so I wanted to clarify these points so that everyone understands. Liked I've said before, there is no hand-book for running a satellite delivery system for data to BBS's, so we are attempting to explore many options that will make our service have many options. Each of these will have to be explored completely, so that all will find something useful for his or her own BBS. Thanks for all of your input. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 210 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 03/30/94 9:59p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ronnie ! Monday March 28 1994 10:47, Ronnie Toth wrote to RADIST Interests: RT> RADIST RT> will be RADISTributing RT> via RT> Planet Connect! Great News ! Ric --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton NEC (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 211 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 03/28/94 5:04a Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dexter! In a message to Martin Belcke <03/23/94> Dexter Wright wrote: DW> -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the proper fi DW> -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are using DW> -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for DW> requesting file echo's? there are none right now... But, from what I have heard, with 3.5 it will all be built in <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * KLEPTOMANIA! Take something for it! --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SKELLY Number: 212 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 03/28/94 12:47a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB>If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator it *has* to be this one. Hehehe... Did I just see someone voluteer? * QMPro 1.51 * Who wants the gold? It's the RAINBOW I am after!! --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 213 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/01/94 11:41a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (31 Mar 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Johnny Green... WS> A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to WS> get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe WS> anyone is doing it! I understand your fustration, the problem is I talk to so many people that I cannot remember names. I am trying to find those names, couple of which I can remember first names only. Boyd and I are pressing Aztek for their solution via the dongle. Hopefully we should know something positive in the next couple of days. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 214 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/01/94 11:51a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (31 Mar 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Kim Bergman... WS> at Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, unless they WS> have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. WS> WS> Wally WS> Check that last message, Wally, and remember that I will not release any names until I have spoken with that person,PERSONALLY, to get their permission. You will not read fiction from us here, Wally. ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 215 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:55p Subj: OS/2 command files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is a didy of a rexx command file to distribute the PC stuff to two other nodes for processing. What hapens is that the node that runs this processes the Fido stuff - the other node processes the internet stuff and the other the files: (hope this fits in one message) /* Planet Connect */ 'echo on' signal on failure name EXIT signal on halt name EXIT signal on syntax name EXIT /* Setup system functions*/ Call RxFuncAdd 'SysSleep','RexxUtil','SysSleep' /* Setup Queue*/ CntlQueue = 'CNTL' skypath = 'c:\mail\inbound\skydata' gosky = 'cd\mail\inbound\skydata' inbound = 'c:\mail\inbound' goin = 'cd\mail\inbound' altsys = 'c:\dave' goalt = 'cd\dave' gosquish = 'cd\max\squish' send = 'squishp send' /* Current files in from the PC machine*/ skylog = 'skydata.txt' skyfile = inbound'\'skylog /* File containing the latest and greatest pcusenets that we have received*/ usefile = inbound'\usedata.txt' isthere = altsys'\isthere.txt' /* This file is sent from the planet connect computer once the mail is complete*/ skyend = skypath'\endupld.txt' /* File that logs the files that we have received*/ gotit = altsys'\pcfile.log' Do Forever Call syssleep 120 /* Send out to 1:348/105 all weather maps*/ 'c:' gosky 'erase "*;*"' /* Send all usenet files to 1:348/105 for processing*/ 'c:' goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\pcuse* /f > 'usefile if RC = 0 then do goalt do until LINES(usefile) = 0 line = LINEIN(usefile) if line <> '' then do usename = FILESPEC('NAME', line) 'dir 'usename' > 'isthere if RC <> 0 then do 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do 'erase "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do gosquish send' 'altsys'\'usename' to 1:348/105' goalt end end end end end file = LINEOUT(usefile) 'erase 'usefile 'erase 'isthere /* Keep only 45 files back */ goalt 'dir pcusenet* /f /od > 'isthere if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 do until LINES(isthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(isthere) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(isthere) if savecnt > 45 then do savecnt = savecnt - 45 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(isthere) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(isthere) end 'erase 'isthere end end /* Send all mail packets to inbound for fast processing*/ 'c:' goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\0000ffff* /f /od > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do gosquish do until LINES(skyfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(skyfile) if line <> '' then do goalt pktname = FILESPEC('NAME', line) 'dir 'pktname' > 'isthere if RC <> 0 then do 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then do 'erase "'line'"' 'unzip -oj 'pktname 'pktsort -s11500' gosquish 'copy 'altsys'\*.pkt' if RC = 0 then do 'erase 'altsys'\*.pkt' end end end else 'erase "'line'"' 'erase 'isthere end end file = LINEOUT(skyfile) 'copy 'skyfile' 'altsys 'erase 'skyfile gosquish send' 'altsys'\'skylog' to 105' send' 'altsys'\'skylog' to 702' /* Do mail command last so sites get files while mail packing*/ oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) QUEUE 'fastoss 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) /* Keep only 25 files back */ goalt 'dir 0000ffff* /f /od > 'isthere if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 216 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:55p Subj: OS/2 command files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << do until LINES(isthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(isthere) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(isthere) if savecnt > 25 then do savecnt = savecnt - 25 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(isthere) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(isthere) end 'erase 'isthere end end /* Check for the end file*/ 'dir 'skyend' > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do 'erase 'skyfile goin 'dir c:\mail\inbound\skydata\* /f > 'skyfile if RC = 0 then do goin do until LINES(skyfile) = 0 line = TRANSLATE(LINEIN(skyfile)) if line <> '' then do /* File there - renamed with ; also we do not do qwk's yet*/ if POS(".QW", line) = 0 then do dontgot = 1 /* Keep track of what we have*/ do until LINES(gotit) = 0 bline = LINEIN(gotit) if bline = line then do dontgot = 0 leave end end if dontgot then do file = LINEOUT(gotit, line) file = LINEOUT(gotit) 'copy "'line'"' if RC = 0 then 'erase "'line'"' end else do file = LINEOUT(gotit) 'erase "'line'"' end end else 'erase "'line'"' end end file = LINEOUT(skyfile) 'erase 'skyfile oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) /* Go setup files for sending */ QUEUE 'ticin 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) end end else 'erase 'skyfile end EXIT: /* Check that control is running*/ xx = RXQUEUE('Create', CntlQueue) /* REXX will name queue to another name - otherwise it exists*/ say 'Try to create - 'xx if xx = CntlQueue then do /* Remove it and let control recreate it*/ xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",CntlQueue) 'C:' 'cd\binkley\bink1' 'start /fs /b control' return end else xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",xx) /* Let control startup bink1*/ return --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 217 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The one node does the tic thingy ( I won't elaborate) and the other processes the Newsgroups as such: (Note that the compressed batch file is "! cunbatch" /* Planet Connect Internet Process */ 'echo on' signal on failure name EXIT signal on halt name EXIT signal on syntax name EXIT /* Setup system functions*/ Call RxFuncAdd 'SysSleep','RexxUtil','SysSleep' /* Setup Queue*/ CntlQueue = 'CNTL' tmpfile = 'd:\temp\tmpdata.txt' usefile = 'd:\temp\usefile.txt' /* Toss to gate the .bag file */ /* Path to the system that we are spooling*/ spoolpath = 'd:\uugate\spool\calvin' gospool = 'cd\uugate\spool\calvin' /* Point to our directory with newsto go to our feed*/ newslist = 'd:\uugate\calvin\rnews.out' goourdir = 'cd\uugate\calvin' /* Where binaries are kept*/ goprocess = 'cd\uugate' /* Name of our systems spool files */ Nodename = 'techtol' outid = 'D.techtol' outdir = 'X.techtol' spoolin = 'd:\uugate\tmp\compin' /* Name of there systems pool files*/ system = 'calvin' inid = 'D.calvin' inidir = 'X.calvin' senddir = 'C.calvin' spoolout = 'd:\uugate\tmp\compout' /* Where the unzipped .bag files are waiting*/ bagloc = 'd:\pc' baglist = 'd:\pc\baglist.txt' LF = X2C('0A') NULL = X2C('00') Do Forever Call syssleep 120 /* Check for the end file*/ /* Process all usenet files*/ 'c:' /* Inbound Directory*/ 'cd\net' 'dir pcuse* /f > 'usefile if RC = 0 then do 'd:' /* Process one Group at a time*/ do until LINES(usefile) = 0 line = LINEIN(usefile) if line <> '' then do usename = FILESPEC('NAME', line) /* Have we seen this one before*/ 'dir c:\usenet\'usename' > 'tmpfile if RC <> 0 then do /* Let us add it to the group*/ 'd:' 'cd\pc' 'copy 'line if RC = 0 then do /* Change pcusenet.xxx to ????????.bag*/ 'unzip -oj 'usename 'erase 'usename 'copy 'line' c:\usenet' if RC = 0 then 'erase 'line' /n' /* Create packets for uugate and uucp sites*/ call putuug /* Now did we mave some pkt's raring to go*/ 'd:' 'cd\uugate' 'uftoss -scalvin' 'e:' 'cd\net' 'pktsort -s11500' /* Wait for Squish to Suck in the last .pkt*/ do until RC <> 0 call syssleep 30 'dir c:\net\*.pkt' end 'c:' 'cd\net' 'copy e:\net\*.pkt' if RC = 0 then 'erase e:\net\*.pkt' oq = RXQueue("Set",CntlQueue) QUEUE 'fastoss 1' xx = RXQueue("Set",oq) call syssleep 30 end 'c:' end else 'erase 'line 'erase 'tmpfile end /* Clean up everything on last pass*/ if LINES(usefile) = 0 then do /* Keep only 75 files back */ 'cd\usenet' 'dir pcusenet* /f > 'tmpfile if RC = 0 then do savecnt = 0 do until LINES(tmpfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(tmpfile) savecnt = savecnt + 1 end file = LINEOUT(tmpfile) if savecnt > 75 then do savecnt = savecnt - 75 do ii = 1 to savecnt line = LINEIN(tmpfile) 'erase 'line end file = LINEOUT(tmpfile) end 'erase 'tmpfile end end end file = LINEOUT(usefile) 'erase 'usefile end 'c:' 'cd\net' 'dir uconnect.stp /f' if RC = 0 then leave end EXIT: /* Check that control is running*/ xx = RXQUEUE('Create', CntlQueue) /* REXX will name queue to another name - otherwise it exists*/ >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 218 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << say 'Try to create - 'xx if xx = CntlQueue then do /* Remove it and let control recreate it*/ xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",CntlQueue) 'C:' 'cd\bink' 'start /fs /b control' return end else xx = RXQUEUE("Delete",xx) /* Let control startup bink*/ exit putuug: 'c:' /* Check that files are waiting*/ 'dir 'bagloc'\*.bag /f > 'baglist if RC = 0 then do /* get the list of files to spool to our feed*/ listout = '' 'd:' goourdir do until LINES(newslist) = 0 line = LINEIN(newslist) if line <> '' then listout = listout' 'line end file = LINEOUT(newslist) /* Now get the count to start at for inbound feeds*/ countin = '0001' 'd:' gospool inused = '' 'dir 'inid'* /f' /* If there is mail to convert - then do it*/ if RC = 0 then do 'd:' goprocess 'uftoss -s'system end /* Now get the count to start at for outbound rmail*/ countout = '0001' 'd:' gospool outused = '' outthere = spoolpath'\C.'system 'dir 'outthere' /f' if RC = 0 then do outthere do until LINES(outthere) = 0 line = LINEIN(outthere) end countout = RIGHT(WORD(line, 2), 4) end /* Now go process the .bag files*/ do until LINES(baglist) = 0 /* Get the name of the first file*/ bagfile = TRANSLATE(LINEIN(baglist)) say 'Processing -> 'bagfile if POS('.BAG', bagfile) > 0 then do messout = 0 /* Proccess all lines in this file*/ therefile = spoolpath'\'outid||countout line = LINEIN(bagfile) do until LINES(bagfile) = 0 if WORD(line, 1) = '#!' & WORD(line, 2) = 'rnews' then do rnewsline = line stack = 0 newgroup = '' /* Get the header info onto the stack*/ do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) directive = WORD(line, 1) stack = stack + 1 line.stack = line if directive = 'Newsgroups:' then do newsgroup = WORD(line, 2) leave end end if newsgroup <> '' then do /* They want this - uucp sites*/ if WORDPOS(newsgroup, listout) > 0 then do messout = messout + 1 file = CHAROUT(spoolout, rnewsline||LF) /* Process Header for Them*/ do i = 1 to stack line = line.i file = CHAROUT(spoolout, line||LF) end DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) if WORD(line, 1) <> '#!' then do file = CHAROUT(spoolout, line||LF) end end end /* Clear Stack - we will not except this*/ else do DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) end end end /* Clear Stack - we will not except this*/ else do DROP(line.) do until WORD(line, 1) = '#!' | LINES(bagfile) = 0 line = LINEIN(bagfile) end end end else line = LINEIN(bagfile) end file = LINEOUT(spoolout) file = LINEOUT(bagfile) if messout > 0 then do /* Now create compressed batch file*/ therefile = outid'd'countout /* create output file */ file = CHAROUT(therefile, '#! cunbatch'||LF) file = LINEOUT(therefile) /* compress packets */ 'compress -cv 'spoolout' >> 'therefile 'erase 'spoolout file = LINEOUT(senddir, 'S 'therefile' 'therefile' uucp - 'therefile' 0666') countout = countout + 1 countout = RIGHT(countout, 4, '0') theredir = spoolpath'\'outid'N'countout file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'U news 'Nodename||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'F 'therefile||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'I 'therefile||LF) >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 219 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 9:59p Subj: OS/2 Process - the other node! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'Z'||LF) file = CHAROUT(theredir, 'C rnews'||LF) file = LINEOUT(theredir) therefile = outid'N'countout theredir = outdir'N'countout file = LINEOUT(senddir, 'S 'therefile' 'theredir' uucp - 'therefile' 0666') countout = countout + 1 countout = RIGHT(countout, 4, '0') end /* Now create our file */ ourfile = inid'd'countin file = CHAROUT(ourfile, '#! cunbatch'||LF) file = LINEOUT(ourfile) /* compress packets */ 'compress -cv 'bagfile' >> 'ourfile countin = countin + 1 countin = RIGHT(countin, 4, '0') ourdir = spoolpath'\'inidir'N'countin file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'U news 'system||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'F 'ourfile||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'I 'ourfile||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'Z'||LF) file = CHAROUT(ourdir, 'C rnews'||LF) file = LINEOUT(ourdir) countin = countin + 1 countin = RIGHT(countin, 4, '0') end 'erase 'bagfile end file = LINEOUT(baglist) 'erase 'baglist file = LINEOUT(senddir) end return --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 220 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/31/94 10:06p Subj: Prize Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Now if I could only get that Dongle working on Scott Brookers system <Dig Dig>. Anyway - let me know if you need some testers if you ever get some software for PC in OS/2. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 221 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 03/31/94 10:17a Subj: Tossing Speed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Using Gecho feeding the entire backbone to 2 nodes and most of it to 3 > more about 1-2 hours (The slow down is compressing the 8 MB single I toss to a couple more boards with a 486/66 and mannage to do it in about 15 minutes.. That involves unpacking, tossing and compressing them for my downlinks. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 222 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 03/31/94 10:19a Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Laz, is this where you suck up to Boyd, like you think he is going > to get mad and quit........this is discusting. No this is where I tell him the rest of us appreciate what he is doing! TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN LECHNER Number: 223 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 03/31/94 11:05p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 30 Mar 94, Mike Nyman writes to Kevin Lechner: >> >> JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >> JB> <<sig.imp >> >> of Netware Lite ($70ea), about $20 worth of cable, >> connectors and terminators and you have a network for >> under $200.00. MN> Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes with a copy of MN> lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for about 40$ . I suppose he could, however it would be very slow. If I were in a big crunch I would get a copy of the network that works thru the parallel port, much faster. Kevin --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Last Point, Palm Bay, FL ** 14.4 ** (1:374/85.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 224 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 03/31/94 1:17a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> There are a number of folks who are running under OS/2. They have JG> relayed info to us of the nature that you mentioned here. Since JG> the software is not a true OS/2 or DesqView application, this is JG> something that we are not able to help with, other than to pass JG> on the info that these OS/2 gurus have given us. Thanks for the info Johnny. I read the info file from your BBS again and see now where it clearly states that OS/2 is not supported at this time. I probably read it before and forgot it, reading so much lately. Please excuse me if I sounded a little put out in my previous message. JG> The company that produces the dongles supplied for Planet Connect JG> is working on this timing problem, and tells us that they should JG> have some info for us by the end of this week. Glad to know someone is working it. Fingers are crossed here and still confident that PC was a wise purchase for me. KB> In this echo I have seen references to a "dongleless version". JG> The version you are referring to is a TVAGENT dongless version. JG> This will enable you to use TvAgents on a seperate machine from JG> the Planet Connect machine. JG> Sorry for the confusion. Not your fault. Thanks for clearing it up. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 225 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 03/31/94 1:36a Subj: HOW FAST DO I NEED? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> Please keep us informed as to your success or lack thereof! At the moment it doesn't look good. I re-read the PC info file from PC BBS and see where it says a 286 is the minimum requirement. Guess the software uses protected mode and so will not run on 8088/86 machines. Seems speed is not the issue at all. What the heck, may as well try it anyway. If it works I'll let All know, if not I'll just shame facedly shut up about it <g>. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 226 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/01/94 12:21a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a >tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple >solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini >Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan >into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about John, Which receiver do you have? I have the little one that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite warm, but never hot.. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK COONEY Number: 227 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 12:52a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> flaming, and general hog wash responces are overwhelming. I agree to go wit MF> the majority here, but I sure don't want to be associated with alot of node MF> who post in here, I am glad I don't have to be. Have a nice life. Murry, I'm guessing your post concerning K12_FWY was written while you were experiencing a "bad reaction" to some sort of medication. If you go back and re-read what you posted, now that your better, you may be able to understand why the majority of the people who replied, replied as they did. * JABBER v1.2 * --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0161] * Origin: Beggars Banquet 716-265-3505 (1:2613/133) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 228 To: SID BALCOM Date: 03/31/94 3:55p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'll gladly buy it. I'm sitting here going through the > 'cooling off' period waiting for the receiver to be built, and > I've got almost another 3 weeks of anticipation. I'll buy his > system in a heartbeat! I can sympathize with you. I can't believe there are folks out there complaining over such trivial things as a couple of echoes when there are people like you who are desperately waiting for a system. Well, let me help you on this. You won't regret it. I've been with them since the beta period and it has been the best thing I have ever done for my BBS. Let me knwo if you need any assitance when you get your system in. Later! --- Gecho/386 1.02+ * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:3667/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 229 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 04/01/94 1:20a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Marty! In a message to All <03/15/94> Marty Duplissey wrote: MD> Hello All! MD> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with MD> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put up for MD> freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make multiple p MD> at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg file. Let me know MD> there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to distribute it. cool... Sounds great.. looking forward to it <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ************ ßeta testers are CRAZY! ************ --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE VOLD Number: 230 To: TONY ARCADI Date: 03/29/94 1:46p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tony said the following to Steve Vold about Re: Services TA> I've run a free BBS in the past, it has a certain level of TA> satisfaction, and its a lot less stressful, I really ran it for TA> self-gratification. I don't see why everyone is even debating the TA> issue, I've seen excellent free boards, and really poor pay boards, TA> and vice-versa, I dont think whether you charge or not has any TA> bearing at all on the quality of the board. TA> For what its worth, I am now a pay board, and I am making the TA> requisite changes.... Hi there, Its not that I was trying to have an argument about wich is which or what is what... All my point or points were to reflect that, if you or *anybody* want to run your board as *FREE* that is fine by me, but don't start telling me that BBS's should be a public service that is *FREE* for the sake of information exchage. That was the original argument. I believe everyone pays a price for information, buy a newspaper, get cable, buy a magazine, and so on, all are sources of information, and all have a price. Even the crap that the Inquirer prints is information that someone sells. That is my point.... period. As a pay board you do have more resposibilities I believe, and mostly, if its pay and a good board, people will use it, but I would never pay a pay board that was crap. And even when I call a so called *FREE* board, if I use there services, I make a valid attempt to contrbute to there systems needs. Steve --- Pony Express/RA 2.01Pro/FE 1.4+ * Origin: The Pony Express BBS - (403) 783 - 8795 (1:134/5010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 231 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 4:10p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> DL:}You can FREQ PSORT from 1:203/7707 and get the latest copy. Be CC> :}sure to get the necessary companion file DOS4GW at the same time. I was watching this and didn't think much of getting the program when only housing 50 echos. Now that I have the full backbone imported into the system, I tried this program a few minutes ago. Just example folks, not exactly calculated to the exact numbers, so don't shoot me down on 'exact' numbers. :) 486-dx40, LANtastic Workstation, DV and QEMM, 1 node of the bbs running, 1 node scanning newsgroups to send out, 1 node importing the .qwk mail, and the test node #4 running this test while all the other nodes are running active. Setting the SET statements to be QUIET and the other to DOS16M=:1M, and the mail drives are local drives and don't need to go across the network. And the results were like this; APPROXIMATELY 5mb of compressed packets 14mb uncompressed 2 minutes to sort with the 1Mb I gave it and another 30 minutes to import it. I use FidoPCB as the tosser. That was on the last run of the dish. I don't know if this is a small day or if I only had that much good, but it shows you an idea. Now I do know that using a 386-dx40 with the hard drives on the LAN using 2mpbs cards took about 3 hours to do this with not using PSORT. I know now I am using a faster hard drive and maybe today's 5mb load is smaller than normal, but I thought I would show some stats to you all here who are thinking of trying it. TRENDS! * Bringing you the mail via a satellite from 24,456 miles in the sky! --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 232 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 3:22p Subj: looking for Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am looking for 2 utilities maybe someone here can point me in the right direction.... 1) a tick utility that will scan the inbound directory and move only thoses files and ticks that exist as a pair to another directory. 2) a files.bbs utility, I need something I can run that will scan throgh a list of directories checking the files and deleting anything over x days. Thanks Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 233 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/01/94 4:35p Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE Read: 04/03/94 6:52p Private: No Tim, I would appreciate it if you would post the echo rules, that way I can see what is on topic in here, along with evryone else. Thank you, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 234 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 04/02/94 4:43a Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Adam Farkas said: AF>... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? AF>Ignore after April 1. Nope. Nobody saw it but you. You must be doing something wrong. <GRIN> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 235 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 04/01/94 8:21a Subj: Lantastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Rick Weber: DO> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO> it under DV or a network. It will under Novell... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 236 To: ANYONE Date: 04/01/94 3:03p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Anyone, Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Thanks. John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 237 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/01/94 7:32p Subj: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for JB} DW> requesting file echo's? JB} there are none right now... But, from what I have heard, with 3.5 it JB} will all be built in From what I understand from OCR, they are still some time away from release of WCFF 4.something -- You may want to look into another program for the time being. Both ALLFIX and FILEMGR will work with the WildCat/WCFile combo. I've been able to get ALLFIX functioning very well with WCFile. My thanks to Chris Stone for posting his setup for the ALLFIX/WCFile configuration. If you want to stay with WCFF, the current version is 3.53. RAID will work with WCFF and allow auto processing of file area requests, as well as some other features. RAID is designed to work with TICK, but the current version of WCFF is a TICK clone. You must point RAID to WCFF.CFG instead of TIC.CFG, and you need to add a verb to WCFF.CFG. WCFF uses the verb "INFILES" for the incoming files area, while TICK uses the verb "IN". RAID is hard coded to look for "IN", so just add it to WCFF.CFG. Have both IN and INFILES point to the incoming file area, and RAID will work fine. Current version of RAID is 1.23, and is available from the author at 13/13 -- Be sure to get both RAID files, RAID123 and RDOC. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 238 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/01/94 9:21p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL (with the PRETOSS option set in WM) MB} SORTPKT MB} WM PRETOSS MB} Is this the way to do it? I haven't been able to figure out any other MB} way to get those .PKT files extracted from the .TU? and into the MB} PRETOSS directory without running the first line. Yep, thats it. SortPKT is an "extra" utility given out with WildMail. The docs even say that it will only work on your pretossed packets. Won't do a thing for downlinks, and that is its major shortcoming. Since you don't pass mail on, the above is not as efficient as it could be. You are actually processing the mail twice. Once into the pretoss area, sorting it, then processing again into your message base. The total time may still be less than it used to be, since you are actually handling a bunch of messages 3 times faster. Look for a Netmail in your incoming, will ship you the short text file. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 239 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/01/94 7:00a Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or was ->it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide you ->with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also ->provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a ->host.domain. Thanks John! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 240 To: BARRY HERBERT Date: 04/01/94 1:20p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Barry Herbert wrote on 28 Mar 94 21:24:19: BH> I'm running on an Amiga 3000T and fortunately, I also have an Me too! BH> Boyd, if you're reading this, perhaps you could give heavy BH> concideration to developing Amiga software that would let other BH> Amiga oriented BBS's access the satellite feeds. BH> I know....There are more IBM BBS's out there than AMiga, BUT BH> there is a large market that Planet Connect is missing. Give it some BH> thought anyway. I second this motion, most definitely. There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet NODELIST... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 241 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 11:22a Subj: SO MANY DIFFERENT NETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> I don't, and so don't several other folks who pay big money. I believe that you see a real problem with the K12 stuff, but I can't understand what it is you are saying about it. Being new to FidoNet and naive about the politics, I see Planet Connect doing pretty much what the telephone company does. I doubt you would tell the telephone company what to include. How can you complain about what PC includes, since it is SO EASY to pitch stuff into the bit bucket once it gets to your computer. As far as ease of utilization and costs of delivery go, I would like to see all of those Fido, QWK and Rime based echos come down in the FidoNet stuff. Why do we need so many different formats and separate nets? I will listen if you care to explain. Tony Cremonese tony@acornbbs.com --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: *AcornBBS*Freeport,ME*USA*207-865-3004* (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 242 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 04/01/94 12:53p Subj: This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <03/31/94> Mark Krieg wrote: MK> I've got an idea, how about renaming this conference to PC_DEBATE, MK> and beginning a new moderated conference for PC Tech Support! I think we have to much debate already, so I think the debate ought to be done on their own nickle via netmail so those of us who are not wishing to read the crap can smile while their phone bill goes up. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Excuse me, I have to recharge my flamethrower. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 243 To: ADAM FARKAS Date: 04/01/94 1:10p Subj: this is a test... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ... This is a test... Anyone see this besides me? -> Ignore after April 1. -> -> -=- -> * SLMR 2.1 * Hello, I am part number ||+||||#||+||+|| -> -> --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#2155) -> * Origin: Wolf's Information Center BBS (1:141/1070) -> DID I PASS YOUR TEST????? LATER --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 244 To: WALTER CADE Date: 04/01/94 11:08p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> < Bill is quoted as sayint to Mart> -> -> If you were a good guy, you'd send it to Boyd for -> -> distribution over the bird.... if you were a REAL good -> -> guy, you'd just send it to me on your nickel (g)..... -> -> True Bill, but this new PreRaid stuff is cool. You can even freq it -> here. ......Tell you what. Freq here or at Marty's board and we WONT -> EVEN SEND you a bill. <G> Hi, Walter.... sorry, you're too late... Marty WAS a good guy and sent it to me on his nickel (thanks, Marty......) cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 245 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 1:30a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/03/94 6:56p Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Kim Bergman <03/30/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for Planet Connect? * WCE 1.5/2087 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 246 To: WALTER CADE Date: 04/01/94 11:04a Subj: Re: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >Install mechanical legs on it. Should be under $10,000. >Walter Walter, Don't forget, you then have to position it on a really steep incline and give it a slight boot to get it going. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GENE BALMAIN Number: 247 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/01/94 7:27p Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: SERVICES BY: John Le Duc to Gene Balmain on Thu Mar 31 1994 12:32 pm > As I said, you're not a sysop, nor a member of Fido. If you > wish the nodelist entry changed, send the proper request. As NC I will deal > with it.... Ok change it to Frank Sener & Gene Balmain.... we are equal. I have a question... do you have a Signed Contract with PC? GENE --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 248 To: ALL Date: 04/01/94 12:59p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How can I get it? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 249 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/01/94 7:41a Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > area. If it has it's own rulebase, then we would have to call a > different system to return mail as Boyd's inbound would consider the > mail to be bad messages. Yeah, I thought of that the next day. Oh, well. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 250 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/01/94 5:37a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello again, Dale! DW|Here's my STARTNET.BAT. DW|Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC |workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail |operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I |reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. Works for me. What can I say. <g> I don't have the luxury of running anything manually since I'm gone when all of this is taking place. <g> DW|I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI |statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a |clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was |configured for me by the software setup routine. Yes, nothing there non-standard. Why not load high - either with QEMM or DOS? Sure did improve my performance here. Good luck with it. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 251 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/01/94 6:16a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No | Please excuse my ignorance, for i am a product of the public school |system, but since graduation, I have had no problems with my employee's |understanding my drift. I am sure pompous remarks are your specialty. Excuse me, sir, but I am also a product of the public school system, and proud of it. Why should that be used as an excuse for spelling and grammatical errors? Get into K12; you might learn something - "a lot" in fact. Pompous is as pompous does, and that is what started this thread! Do you get the drift? .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Internet Address: macbryant@delphi.com --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 252 To: RICHARD WALLEN Date: 03/31/94 4:26a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -=>On 23 Mar 94 12:59:35, Dexter Wright retorted to Martin Belcke<=- -> -=>about Tic Files<=- -> -> Hello Dexter, -> -> -> A TIC processor would automatically toss the files into the prope -> -> areas and add the decriptions to the file database. IF you are u -> -> Wildcat, you would use WCFF. -> -> DW> Are there any AreaMgr's that work with WildCat/WCFF for -> DW> requesting file echo's? -> -> If you find one let me know... also I found out real quick that wcff -> couldn't handle the entire filebone setup in the wcff.cfg so I had to -> create 3 of them in order to process it all. -> -> Alittle more each day... -> -> Richard Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 253 To: BILL ROPER Date: 03/31/94 4:42a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> Wildcat, too.... -> -> cheers... I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 254 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 7:48a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff.. 1/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Timothy! TT|Mac, your slow tossing problem can be solved in these steps: TT|1) Don't do a complete toss under LANtastic's SERVER _or_ Desqview. |Both of these are multitaskers; you're cutting your CPU time markedly. |Think about it: if you're running both of 'em, you're actually running |a multitasker in a window of another multitasker. And that provides |exceptionally crappy performance. <g> How can I possibly do this - automatically? I plead ignorance here. No problem taking down DV and/or Lantastic if I'm at the console, but I have no idea whatsoever how to take them down with a batch file. TT|2) Hip WildMail! trick 'o the month: locate your message base DATAFILES |on a different _physical_ drive than where your inbound PKTs are |located. That way a single HDD doesn't have to hop, skip, and jump its |headstack around first reading the inbound PKT, then writing into the |WildCat! BTREE message base. Splitting the action up between two |HDDs really works. I found it added about 15 messages per minute on |my system... But that seems to work fine here - with no loss of performance on the BBS. I have my tosser, all the message bases, the \DATA for WC, and Planet Connect on a dedicated machine. The mail comes in and is tossed without any slow down on the BBS machine. Seems to work fine. TT|3) NO STACKER, SUPERSTOR, ADDSTOR, DOUBLESPACE, WHATEVER!!! ON YOUR |MESSAGE BASE DATAFILES. Oh, it's perfectly safe, but it really throws a |monkey wrench in the ol' transmission (if you get my meaning). None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. TT|4) Run a good-sized disk cache during tossing. I'm talking greater |than 3072k, if possible. Turn on the cache's delayed-writes option, |and turn on the "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option. A lot of folks use |HYPERDISK and love it. I, also, think it's the fastest cacheing |software available, but I use SMARTDRV 5.2 for its built-in CD-ROM |cacheing abilities. I now have HYPERDKX set to 4096 with delayed writes enabled. How do you turn on the RETURN PROMPT FAST option. Would you share the command line for HYPERDKX even though you don't use it? I don't have my CDRoms online right now. (Not enough memory to load MSCDEX plus all the other stuff and not lose so much memory WC doesn't want to load). As soon as I can get the other stuff worked out, I'll put the CDRoms back online. BTW, the version of HYPERDKX I have is dated 8-24-93. Does anybody know if that's the latest? TT|5) Use WildMail!'s PRETOSS option. This will create temporary *.PKTs |that can be tossed much, much faster by WildMail! in an offline event. |You'll be able to turn on the PREPROCESS ECHOMAIL option in |WMCONFIG.EXE's SYSTEM INFORMATION --> BBS SPECIFIC OPTIONS menu. That I have done and now I've tripled my tossing/min. Up to 181/min but I'm using the PURGE option. That takes less time that WCREPAIR on some 950 message bases. <g> TT|6) For even more speed with the PRETOSS option, try using the |SORTPKT.EXE utility that shipped with WildMail!. It will crack open all |the inbound packets, and sort them into a single packet on a |conference-by-conference basis. That way, WildMail! doesn't have to |spend as much time locking and releasing each conference's datafile. That I am doing as well. Thanks to you and others who contributed that tip. TT|7) If you _really_ want speed, run WMCONFIG.EXE and look under the |SYSTEM INFORMATION --> BBS SPECIFIC INFORMATION menu. Turn the |"MAINTAIN MESSAGE LEVELS" switch to "N". Press F1 and read the helpfile |before you do, however: if you allow WildMail! to toss without purging, |you're going to eat up valuable disk space with conference |datafiles. REALLY FAST. I allow WildMail! to "PURGE BEFORE TOSS", |after decideing that I need my valuable disk space more than a couple |dozen messages-per-minute. Agreed. Like I said, worth the extra time to maintain the message levels. I had some conferences that had grown to 10meg+ without it. TT|Ok. All that being said, here's how I toss mail on my system. TT| a) Just-recieved inbound PKTs are _pretossed_ by WildMail. | The command line at this point is simply WM TOSS NETMAIL. | Even the 3.5meg of echomail I get a day only takes 5-8 minutes | to pretoss. Gotcha. I run that - then SORTPKT - then WM PRETOSS. TT| b) Run Michael Conley's NETBULL utility. Check it out. Been running that one for a long time. Great utility! TT| c) In Frontdoor, I have events scheduled to WM SCAN MAILOUT | _only_ at specific times. This cuts down on time delays (Continued to next message) * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 255 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 03/31/94 7:48a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff.. 2/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (Continued from previous message) | caused by the infamous "UPDATING HIGH WATER MARK" message. I have this running at 3am before FD calls to deliver to the three systems I send to. TT| d) In an offline event, reboot your system with _very clean_ | AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. No Desqview, and no | LANtastic SERVER (if you can help it). Make sure you run a | fairly good size disk cache, > 3072k, with the delayed writes | turned on. Then, issue the command line WM PRETOSS. After | WildMail!'s done running, don't forget to copy your BBS's | configuration files back into your boot directory. I'm not sure I understand that last sentence. What configuration files? And (g) *what* boot directory? TT|Just as an FYI, my system is very similar to yours: 386DX/33 w/ 8meg |RAM, 2 Maxtor HDDs, DOS 6.2, QEMM 7.3, SMARTDRV 5.2, LANtastic AI 5.0, |Desqview 2.62, WildCat! 3.9m, and WildMail! 3.1. I get around 400 |messages per minute in the pretoss, and about 280 in the final toss. |Joe Martin (the author of WildMail!) has told me that's blazing fast |for a 386DX/33 system. Including a complete WCRENUMX -a event, it takes |my system about 20 minutes _total_ to process 3.5meg of echomail. That is indeed fast on a 386. I have a 486/33 doing this and, as I said, only getting about 181/min. However that is such a drastic increase from the 60/min I was getting that I'm relatively satisfied with it. The WCRENUMX I need to add to an event since some of the numbers are approaching the limit. Don't you think once a week ought to get it? TT|Hope I've been of some help. If you need any more assistance, contact |me at the addresses below. Or call my board, if you like! Thanks, Timothy. You've been a big help. Now if you will just answer my few questions, I may just be *in* business. <g> Have a good one. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 1:3632/42 (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 256 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 7:14p Subj: Services Refer: 245 Read: NO Private: No -> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working f -> Connect? If he's feeding direct from Planet Connect, I'll require Boyd to make the conference "read only" for his node... Specifically, any mail originating from his system would not be redistributed. No, I'm not working for Planet Systems. I'm in no way associated with the company... I'm just the (unbiased) moderator. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 257 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:43p Subj: Murry Francis Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please, let's end this thread. It gets old and it does nothing more than pander to this guy's quest for attention. EOT (please). tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 258 To: ALL Date: 03/31/94 6:18a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems to work. Thanks in advance, Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 259 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/02/94 4:17a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Mar 31 19:32>, MARTIN BELCKE (1:232/10) writes: -> What I would like to see is people being able to add echos to the fid -> downlink from PC just by sending it to boyd. We have got some nifty -> there, and by just sending it to one place we can virtually add it to -> backbone without any of the current hassles, it's a great deal. MB>>Actually, what you would be doing is adding it to PLanet Connect, NOT MB>>the Fido Backbone as areas that are not on the backbone would just goto MB>>the bit bucket when they arrived at 396/1 (Southern Star), that is MB>>assuming that Boyd sent them to him, which he wouldn't. It sort of looks to me as if Planet Connect could also have their own backbone - in addition to the various other networks they carry. A collection of echoes that are available only via the satellite. ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a5 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 260 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/02/94 12:38p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Barry Herbert: CG> There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet CG> NODELIST... First, I'm not arguing your point, nor making a comment re: Amiga. I am simply curious as to how you extracted the info from the nodelist? Is there a flag for Amiga now? If so, I'll put it up for the two Amigas in our net. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 261 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/01/94 8:46p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 6:59p Private: No Tim Helton wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TH> Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month TH> moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different days last week and you didn't answer... must be nice to lay out in the Florida morning sun and let it ring. <g> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 262 To: JAMES NERLINGER Date: 04/02/94 10:16p Subj: Services. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (01 Apr 94) James Nerlinger wrote to Johnny Green... JN> JG> Check the PRICES.TXT for details, and the JN> SKYDATA\PERSONAL for the JN> JG> latest updates on these areas. JN> JN> Where can I find these files? Sorry, James, I had assumed you already had our system. Oops ! These files are dload'd daily on our system. The best way for you to get a good overview of this info is to freq PCINFO.TXT from our system at 1:3615/50. This will tell you about the hardware options and an overview of the subscription pricing. JN> JG> The Internet Usenet groups are currently ramped up in JN> quanity. JN> JN> What does that mean? Our current provider has been a little slow about getting us the quanity of Usenet that we wanted. We are this week going to start accepting another feed and compare or combine the two in order to raise the volume of Usenet we are sending. JN> What would it cost to get me up and running -- equipment, lease, JN> monthly fees, out the door? JN> Quick overview: 2' Ku dish system less coax cable......$495.00 A: 3" Ku dish system less coax cable......$569.00 7.5' C band system less coax cable.....$649.00 or B: Lease...$200.00 refundable deposit, $18.50 per month, payable quarterly...... C: Which subscription term, and which services.... Details in the PCINFO.TXT, and feel free to call our office for more complete info. ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 263 To: CARLOS SALAS Date: 04/02/94 10:36p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (01 Apr 94) Carlos Salas wrote to All... CS> Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How CS> can I get it? CS> Either call our office at 615-623-8300 and request the info pack or leave your info (address for shipping and the like), here and we will send it to you. Thanks for the inquire... ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 264 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/02/94 4:29p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> at Planet Connect should have told you that it WS> would work, unless they WS> have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. JG> Check that last message, Wally, and remember JG> that I will not release JG> any names until I have spoken with that person,PERSONALLY, to get JG> their permission. JG> You will not read fiction from us here, Wally. Johnny, I'm not suggesting that you would tell people something that is fiction, that wasn't the intent of the full message. I was pointing out that no one that has talked to you saying they have it working has come out publicly in this Echo or the PCSITES Echo and stated that they actualy have it working on OS/2 and their secret for making it work. I don't believe you or anyone else at PC should state that it will work on OS/2 without having first hand knowledge of it actualy working as opposed to hear-say reporting. I'm very happy to hear that the Dongle manufacturer is working on the problem, and, yes, it is frustrating when we hear reports that it is SUPPOSED to work on OS/2 and one then spends hours and $$'s trying to make it work only to find out from those that REALY know OS/2 that it JUST WON'T WORK and we've wasted are time and money. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 265 To: JIM WATSON Date: 04/02/94 8:19p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO>> it under DV or a network. JW> It will under Novell... It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. --jah ... Civilization is a Race between Education and Catastrophe! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 266 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 04/02/94 3:18p Subj: RE: KY_DA DA DA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yeah, I thought of that the next day. Oh, well. There you go again, thinking. That is the primary cause of loss of hair (grin).... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 267 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/02/94 8:17p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Wednesday March 30 1994, John Campbell writes to All: JC> I just had a problem with my Planet Connect Data Reciever that JC> started showing almost 90% errors... Planet Systems sent me a new data JC> reciever with no questions asked, and shipped it next day.. However, as JC> hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a JC> tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple JC> solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini JC> Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan JC> into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about JC> $20.00 (well worth the insurance of downtime and missed data) is about JC> the whole deal, and is very quiet to boot.... JC> Must give a hand to Planet Systems, in particular Johnny, He (they) JC> have really be great at tech support for me... I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC customer service on this subject is great.) You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am crossing my fingers on this one.<g> Russell * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS-GILLETTE WY-307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 268 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/03/94 12:02a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> >hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a DP> >tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple DP> >solution to hopefully settle this problem... A radio shack 12 Volt Mini DP> >Fan (R/S PN 273-244), and a 9 volt dc wall adapter... Pointed the fan DP> >into the side of the reciever, and bingo stays very cool. For about DP>John, DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one DP> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't DP> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite DP> warm, but never hot.. DP>Dave P. DP>--- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) DP> * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) Dave, I run the KU with the 2 foot dish John --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 269 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 04/03/94 12:03a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JO>BG> You will have to get the rime nodes to talk with Bonnie who is head of JO>the JO>BG>network. If she says ok then its fine by me. JO>On a slight tangent Boyd, is the RIME feed out of the testing stage JO>yet? In other words, is it worth my while to call up and get a new code JO>for my lock to put RIME online ( I am a re-newing RIME node ) via the JO>bird?? JO>--- JO> * DeLuxe*/386 1.25 #7679 * Never, never, never *MOON* a werewolf!! JO> * RoseMail 2.10*: * NaNet 61/31/11 * Viking's Cove * (613)394-0685 JO>--- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' JO> * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) Jeff, Rime seems to work ok.... But I do not think that it is a full feed yet... It does however work. I am running it here... You will need to get the new software from Bonnie. John --- ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Press any key to continue or any other key to quit --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 270 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/02/94 8:32a Subj: WILDMAIL! 3.1 STUFF... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups > in any one subdirectory. In other words, don't take the > MSG???.DIA/DAT/IX files from 200 conferences and put them all > into one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through Dean, It's fairly well-known that DOS bogs down when there's over about 250 files in a single subdirectory. It gets much worse at multiples of that number (500, 750, etc.) You should always try to keep the number of files to 250 or fewer if it's possible. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB DELUGACH Number: 271 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 5:36p Subj: Re: Feed Cut Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 7:04p Private: No In a message to Murry Francis <04/01/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> I assume that you havn't seen my previous posts to you. Here it is TH> again: IF YOU CONTINUE THIS THREAD I'M GOING TO CUT YOUR FEED TO THIS TH> ECHO. This is your last chance. TH> tim TH> moderator I seem to have missed your carbon of the above threat sent to ALL who have joined in on this pissing match, yourself included. Moderator does not mean dictator. While you're in the dictionary, try looking up TACT. --- WM v3.10/93-0976 * Origin: BYTES BBS, Kent, OH (216) (1:2215/450) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 272 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 11:13a Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ok sorry for this BUT I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. If ya see this please post back <G>.. Thanks! Mark M. tlotl@net.com ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 273 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/02/94 2:20p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 274 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/02/94 8:49p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Anyone, -> -> Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Tha -> -> John {|-) -> -> --- Msgedsq 2.2e -> * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159 -> CONECTION VERIFIED --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 275 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 6:05p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my outbounds. Thanks. ┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ --- GEcho/Synchronet * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 276 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/01/94 2:27a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike, Regarding your message to Kevin Lechner ..... >> >> JB> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running >> >> find a couple of used ethernet cards, 8 bit cards work MN> Or Kevin he could find a copy of PC Conectivite which comes MN> with a copy of lantastic Z and run a nul modem cable all for MN> about 40$ . The $40 cost you mention appeals to me. I don't know what PC Conectivite is though. Could that be PC Connectivity? No matter, I've never heard of that one either. Can you give me a few more details on it, like ... Is it shareware/commercial? Where would be a good place to look for it? Is it better than the idea of moving the files with Hydra or DSZ using some batch file finesse? Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 277 To: JOSEPH LAFERLA Date: 04/01/94 5:26a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Joseph, JL> PC told me that an OS2 version will be available soon. Johnny Green's recent message to me here reinforces what you just said, very encouraging. JL> Do you have much experience with OS2? I also would like JL> specific details of installation and I think it would be JL> nice if PC provided us with details. I've been on OS/2 for almost 2 years. I'm still learning but feel pretty confident with it. Once they tweak the dongle so it works with OS/2 I think installing will probably be exactly the same as for DOS. There may be a few VDM settings to tweak on the software side but it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently the current software runs OK on OS/2 but the dongle and parallel port don't want to communicate. The "new" dongle should take care of that. JL> BTW, I passed through Hanna last January on my way from Milk JL> River to Edmonton. Stopped at the KFC for lunch too! Look me up if you're ever in Hanna again. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 278 To: FRANK SKELLY Date: 04/02/94 1:56a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB>If ever I have seen an echo in need of a moderator KB>it *has* to be this one. FS> Hehehe... Did I just see someone voluteer? That wasn't my intention but now that you mention it, yes, I'm willing. I see the real moderator has surfaced however. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 279 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/02/94 2:17a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> it. My bet is that NOBODY is ACTUALY using PC on OS/2 WS> with the current dongle. I don't believe the people at WS> Planet Connect should have told you that it would work, WS> unless they have a ACTUAL knowledge of it working. You're right but maybe the person I talked to was given wrong information. I'm not going to raise a stink about it because they appear to be working on the problem, at least that's what they said in a recent post here. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 280 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/02/94 2:46a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/04/94 7:06p Private: No TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. Welcome back, Tim. Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 281 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 04/04/94 7:10p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: 261 Read: NO Private: No -> TH> Yeah, I'm here. I've been busy as hell for the past month -> TH> moving to my new house and publishing our CD-ROM tites. -> -> Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. Tim Helton Data Express, Inc. 11030 NW 26th Place Sunrise, FL 33322 Voice: 305-572-4848 Fax : 305-572-3454 BBS : 305-572-3456 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 282 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/04/94 7:06p Subj: Services Refer: 280 Read: NO Private: No -> -> TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts -> -> Welcome back, Tim. I'm not so sure about that |).. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 283 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/02/94 11:46p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Please reply to verify connection to PC via netmail if possible. Tha Hey John, Welcoem aboard, you old dog you. Nice to see some familiar faces from the past still around. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK BRIDWELL Number: 284 To: ART MACK Date: 04/02/94 6:22p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Sat Apr 02 01:30>, Art Mack of 1:201/70 writes: AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for AM> Planet Connect? What they do is promise not to process any of your return mail inbound to 1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller on another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't put any smileys in the message either. <grin> --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Bink's Barn - Satellite Reception Station - Lawton, OK (1:385/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 285 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/03/94 10:50a Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday, plagued by troubled thoughts of WildMail! 3.1 stuff, Mac Bryant shared his feelings with Timothy Trace. +------------------------------- | Hello, Timothy! +------------------------------- Hello, youself! +------------------------------- |TT| Don't do a complete toss under LANtastic's SERVER _or_ Desqview. | | How can I possibly do this - automatically? I plead ignorance here. | No problem taking down DV and/or Lantastic if I'm at the console, | but I have no idea how to take them down with a batch file. +------------------------------- Four easy steps, Mac. 1) Create a (relatively) clean AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Name them AUTOEXEC.WM3 and CONFIG.WM3. 2) Make backup copies of your existing AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. Name them AUTOEXEC.BAK and CONFIG.BAK. 3) In your nightly toss event, copy the *.WM3 files _over_ the existing AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Since you're using Hyperdisk's STAGED WRITES, have your batchfile issue the command HYPERDK E to flush the catch. Then, call a utility such as BOOT.COM or the BNU fossil driver to reboot your computer. The new configuration files will take hold, and the AUTOEXEC.WM3 (now named AUTOEXEC.BAT, of course!) will run whatever commands you put in it... 4) At the end of AUTOEXEC.WM3 (remember, now called AUTOEXEC.BAT), copy the *.BAK files to AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Next, flush your cache with the HYPERDK E command. Lastly, reboot your computer (again with BOOT.COM or BNU!), and the BBS will magically reappear. I'd provide you with copies of my batchfiles and such, but by the time I edit them so anybody else could understand them (!) you'll have figured out everything on your own... +------------------------------- | TT| NO STACKER, SUPERSTOR, ADDSTOR, DOUBLESPACE, WHATEVER!!! ON YOUR | | MESSAGE BASE DATAFILES. Oh, it's perfectly safe, but it really | | throws a monkey wrench in the ol' transmission. | | None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a | 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. +------------------------------- Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> +------------------------------- | TT| Run a good-sized disk cache during tossing. Turn on the cache's | | delayed-writes option. Turn on the "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option. | | How do you turn on the RETURN PROMPT FAST option? Would you share | your command line for HYPERDKX even though you don't use it? BTW, the | version of HYPERDKX I have is dated 8-24-93. Does anybody know if | that's the latest? +------------------------------- Mac, I goofed. The "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option is a SMARTDRV.EXE command line parameter, not a Hyperdisk option. Also, in reviewing the SPEEDKIT.TXT file that comes in Hyperware's archive of Hyperdisk, I found the following command line options that provided some speed increases when I was running HYPERDKX.EXE... --- (from the HyperDisk manual) VI - QEMM Stealth SUPPORT VI or VI:+ Enables virtual interrupts; VI:- disables virtual interrupts. Default is enabled. EMS FAR CALL FOR DESQVIEW UI or UI:+ forces EMS far call to use interrupt 67h, which works better when using DesqView with your system. To restore the original far call method, specify UI:- Default is disabled. --- The latest version of HyperWare's SPEEDKIT is 4.65. Call their support BBS at 415-882-1735 to pick it up. +------------------------------- | TT|Just as an FYI, my system is very similar to yours: 386DX/33 | |I get around 400 messages per minute in the pretoss, and about 280 | |in the final toss. | | I have a 486/33 doing this and, as I said, I'm only getting about | 181/min. However that is such a drastic increase from the 60/min I | was getting that I'm relatively satisfied with it. +------------------------------- Don't give up yet, Mac! You should be able to get 450+/min in the final toss with that processor, unless you've got some slow turkey hard drives. Keep working... <g> +------------------------------- |The WCRENUMX I need to add to an event since some of the numbers are |approaching the limit. Don't you think once a week ought to get it? +------------------------------- Well, there _is_ no limit to how high a message number can be. But you may confuse your callers when they read message #334,232,333. I run WCRENUMX nightly, just to prevent this kind of confusion. Telegard, WWIV, and PCBoard BBS' automatically renumber their message bases when a message is deleted, but WildCat! doesn't. And I really, really, really wish it would - because it looks so much neater. There ya go, Mac. Hope I answered all your questions! Timothy Trace (your Favorite SYSOP!) NeverLand 314/ 579-9369 ... My wallet's cache is disabled. * MSI Off-Line Express * --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 2.5gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 286 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:17p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... Address 239/1004 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BITCH' Address 3641/1 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 2623/520 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 229/510 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Address 374/1 not authorized to create area 'MEDIEVAL' Address 3410/1 not authorized to create area 'RECTRVMK' Address 284/1 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' Address 3807/104 not authorized to create area '3807STAT' Address 202/401 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' Processing new EchoMail areas... Creating new area 'CAROLINA_GEN' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'DOMINO' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'EMBEDDED' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'HYPERWARE' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'NIGHT_SHIFT' from 1:396/1 Creating new area 'Z1_POLITICAL' from 1:396/1 --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 287 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/02/94 7:45a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any -> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many -> files to find the right message datafile group. !!! Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 2.5gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALLEN CRAVENER Number: 288 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/28/94 4:14p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do -> > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering th -> > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na or fidonet.no -> -> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and s They fit right into my system just fine. If I didn't want them I would just send them where all the other conferences go that I don't want. Allen --- WM v3.10/93-0158 * Origin: The Glass Menagerie II (610) 376-1819 (1:2607/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 289 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/03/94 8:26p Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (02 Apr 94) Wallace Sheldon wrote to Johnny Green... WS> Johnny, I'm not suggesting that you would tell people something that WS> is fiction, that wasn't the intent of the full message. I understand, I am sorry, I did not intend to sound aggressive. I have spoken to this person PERSONALLY on two seperate occasions, and tried again to reach him Friday to no avail. I will try again Monday and attempt to get him to post here. The two times I have spoken to him, he has stated that he has had success with both OS/2 ver 2.0 and 2.1. Since I have no experience with OS/2, I am inadequate to relay this info with much detail. This is my fault, and I will try to remedy that. WS> I'm very happy to WS> hear that the Dongle manufacturer is working on the problem, and, yes, WS> it is frustrating when we hear reports that it is SUPPOSED to work on WS> OS/2 and one then spends hours and $$'s trying to make it work only to WS> find out from those that REALY know OS/2 that it JUST WON'T WORK and WS> we've wasted are time and money. I understand your frustration, and I too would be unhappy to put forth this type of effort and have no luck. I hope that between this guy I speak of and the folks at Aztek, that we will be able to provide answers for all who wish to run OS/2. Thanks, and sorry for the misconception,.... Johnny Green ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 290 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/03/94 8:34p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (02 Apr 94) Russell Naber wrote to John Campbell... RN> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC customer RN> service RN> on this subject is great.) RN> RN> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am RN> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> Hang in there guys, and gals, we are working with IDC closely to solve this problem, and hope to have all of this nailed down shortly. Meanwhile, this is something that seems to provide better service from heat that originates from power supply problems. Let us know how we can help all, this are things we need to know about. Johnny Green. ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THEODORE POLCZYNSKI Number: 291 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 7:54p Subj: Setup Suggestion Wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well the snow is GONE!!! The ground is UNFROZEN!!! SPRING IS HERE!!! So I need some input on adding Planet Connect. ......................................................................... I have a 286 for my BBS with Lantastic on FidoNet (FrontDoor & Maximus) I also have a 386DX on Lantastic for me & the kids homework (Ha Ha) (more like games) What type of CPU, speed, RAM, Comport, HD should I get for the computer that will handle the downfeed from Planet Connect? Any hints on where to buy it from? This will also have a Lantastic card. Any hints on how I should setup Lantastic? Oh it's V4, should I upgrade for this setup. Thanks Ted --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Cruisin Milwaukee WI in my 50 Chevy PU & 60 MET (1:154/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 292 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/03/94 2:01p Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It sort of looks to me as if Planet Connect could also have t -> backbone - in addition to the various other networks they carry. -> A collection of echoes that are available only via the satell It is possible. They already have several FDN's that are satellite only. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 293 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 2:29p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. -> If ya see this please post back <G>.. I would have replied, but since I did not see the message, I could not reply to that which I did not see on April 3rd. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 294 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/03/94 7:24p Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC -> customer service on this subject is great.) -> -> You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed -> into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller -> into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! -> -> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am -> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> The power supply is another story...... It gets hot, and even though it looks like it has vents... It is a sealed unit... I am not sure how to go about cooling it... Actually my power supply stays cooler than the reciever ever did, so I am not really worried about that by comparision... Your cooling solution for the reciever is quiet ingenious... Will have to look into some kind of ducting here... Great idea.. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 295 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/03/94 7:29p Subj: Miscellaneous Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I am interested in 3 basic topics.... They are: 1.) What is the status of ILINK? are we going to be carrying it, and if so, what will the packets be in... 2.) Noticed a new ACONFIG.SKY to come down with ILINK listed... Set it up to recive ILINK when it is available, and then I see another still yet another new ACONFIG.SKY, and the only other difference is that this one has a lower case "f" following the ILINK. Which ACONFIG.SKY is correct.. With or Without the "f". 3.) What is the status on getting a door for BBS's that carry the weather to display the weather to our users... This information would be greatly appreaciated, especially since we now have to pay for the weather that is coming out to us. Thanks inadvance for your responses... John Campbell --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 296 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 3:27p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What are the AD-* file echoes? They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a FILEBONE.NA-style listing of these areas so I can look them over? Thanx. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 297 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/03/94 6:06p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <04/01/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello again, Dale! MB> DW|Here's my STARTNET.BAT. MB> DW|Right now I fire it up manually when I need to move mail from the PC MB> |workstation to the BBS machine. I like your idea about moving all mail MB> |operations onto the workstation. Believe I'll give that a try when I MB> |reconfigure my system to running each node from a workstation. MB> Works for me. What can I say. <g> I don't have the luxury of running MB> anything manually since I'm gone when all of this is taking place. <g> I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. MB> DW|I've made no modifications to this other then REMing out the LOADHI MB> |statements since I'm running it from DOS. Don't really have much of a MB> |clue as to whether or not it might be correct as this is what was MB> |configured for me by the software setup routine. MB> Yes, nothing there non-standard. Why not load high - either with QEMM MB> or DOS? Sure did improve my performance here. I run it manually from DOS with nothing else running, so it doesn't seem to mind not being loaded high. MB> Good luck with it. Thanks * WCE 1.5/2064 * Oceanside, where the rip rap meets the riff raff --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 298 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/03/94 9:13a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Bill Roper <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with JL> -> Wildcat, too.... JL> -> JL> -> cheers... JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. Any reason John? I have had a few hangups with it and you cant areafix it but other than that? * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 299 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 4:26p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <04/02/94> Mark Malacarne wrote: MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. I know whats its like but yes your messages are getting out. Just got a satellite eh? Art.Mack@NFE.COM * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 300 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/03/94 4:28p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Joe! In a message to John Lyon <04/02/94> Joe Lyda wrote: JL> Hello John! JL> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called JL> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called What does MAKEWCFF do Joe, is it a configuration program? WCFF 3.55 seems a little more robust than 3.52. Art * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 301 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/03/94 4:56p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:42p Private: No -> You want to be moderated? I can be the biggest S.O.B. moderator you' -> ever seen if that's what you want. That is quite apparent. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 302 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 10:51p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Art Mack wrote in a message to Tim Helton: AM> Hello Tim! AM> In a message to Kim Bergman <03/30/94> Tim Helton wrote: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you AM> working for Planet Connect? Pretty simple really......think about it. greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... I see your GAU-8A and raise you two SAMs! --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 303 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 10:55p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just FW> about everything and nothing seems to work. Suffice to say that the way the PC software works what you want to do is not only unlikely but -absolutely- impossible. greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... Diversity is God's way of amusing himself. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 304 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/02/94 8:16a Subj: Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> NOT CORRECT..!! Planet Connect IS planning to accept replies for JG> Usenet at some point. There is no time table at this point. The JG> priorty here is to get data TO you, and then to recieve it back. JG> There are numerous problems that will have to be overcame, such JG> as hardware, software setup, methodology, etc, etc,. When we feel JG> as though we have all of this worked out, THEN we will look at JG> handling these returns. JG> This has been a constant misconception, so I wanted to clarify these JG> points so that everyone understands. Ok Johnny, whatever... I was just repeating what Boyd had told me in a phone conversation. Don;t suppose you would have any timetable for this? --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 305 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 12:26p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems FW> to work. Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due to the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes in, lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root directory, and if it is error free and permitted to be on your system it is renamed to the proper name and directory directly to the FAT Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the software and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes only so long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and start a new one. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Me, indecisive? I don't think I am, do you? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 306 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 9:20p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Jim Watson <04/02/94> John Hrusovszky wrote: JH> DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. JH> DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without JH> DO>> it under DV or a network. JH> JW> It will under Novell... JH> It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite JH> machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. It works under Novel Lite without a 16550. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Not a computer nerd; merely a techno-weenie. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 307 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/03/94 9:23p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <04/02/94> Mark Malacarne wrote: MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. Made it to Tennessee Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Now where did I put that fire extinguisher? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 308 To: GENE BALMAIN Date: 04/03/94 4:06a Subj: SERVICES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gene wrote to John: > As far as "Rights" go... I dont think you have a "Right" to > partisipate in this echo. You dont have a PC Dish... nor are you > thinking about purchacing one.. Your presence here is to do nothing > but disrupt Planet Connect and its Business Dealings! Actually this echo is for people *considering* obtaining a Planet Connect feed and those who, not having such a feed, have questions about the service. Those of us who are already clients are served by the PCSITES echo. Mr. De Luc has every right to be here, whether he is a current client or not, to monitor what it is all about and hopefully one day join the "blessed." More than that, he does provide a very important service to many of us by managing the Genealogy file distribution, and for my money, every file distribution coordinator should be welcomed here with open arms. If some are a might "disruptive" then we satisfied clients should try to bring them into the fold, not tell them to bugger off. My 25 cents. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 309 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/29/94 3:06p Subj: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In article 'ky_da da da', Mark Parkman(1:170/351) wrote: MP> > and down the other. I have been very patient and quite while MP> > seeing what is going on in this area. It is going to the MP> > dogs. Hello, is there a moderator in here???? Anyone want to MP> > be the moderator??? I guess this is the straw that broke the MP> > camels back. You guys want to play hard ball? Fine. I'm all MP> > ready to take my first swing. I am no public relations man. MP> > Do you think this is fun sitting here at 2:00 am in the MP> > morning, reading stuff that does not make sense and then MP> > working all day at an office taking tech calls and making MP> > sure everything is going good. Then, for toppers, coming back MP> > here at 7:00 pm and working till 1 or 2 am again so that you MP> > get your mail and files. Anybody want a job? MP> > MP> > P.S. Have a nice day! MP> > MP> > ...Boyd MP> Don't let that stuff get to you Boyd. You're doing a fine job and everyone on here knows it and has said so. His is only one opinion and his poor taste and lack of tact should be ignored. __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 310 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/03/94 2:53a Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet NODELIST... WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone else is running if this is true... >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 311 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/03/94 7:41p Subj: Re: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for receiving >files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and drive D >for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing seems >to work. >Fred Fred, Below is an excerpt from the SET-INI.DOC file.. Dave P. SKYDRIVE=C: This the drive ID to where the holding file will be located. This is mandatory. Since files are moved rather than copied this letter will corrispond where you have your incoming files being saved to. ALL files being received must go to the same drive ID. You can not have half the files going to your C: drive and the other half going to your D: drive. It has to be one or the other. Value range : C to Z. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 312 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/03/94 7:44p Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my >outbounds. Thanks. >┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ >│ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ >│ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ >│ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ >└──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ >--- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) John, Getting here in downtown Dover, DE... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 313 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 7:45p Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. >DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without >DO>> it under DV or a network. > JW> It will under Novell... >It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my satellite >machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. John, I too was able to get it working fine using Little Big Lan... it was just when I hit the PC node hard from another node.. ie.. processing bundles, etc.. I noticed on the PC node that it would begin to show errors on the current file being received... This of course was resolved by adding a 16550.. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 314 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/03/94 7:49p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one >DP> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't >DP> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite >DP> warm, but never hot.. >Dave, > I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >John John, I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. After my previous post, I taped a thermometer to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 315 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 6:05a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are AM> you working for Planet Connect? You just touched upon something that has alot of moderators, NC's, RC's, etc whirling around in circles. There is no way (IMHO) under the current scheme to "cut someone's feed". The only thing that can be done is to sever the return link for an echo, which is going to increase Boyd and company's work load. There is also no way to ensure that someone NOT a valid Node from receiving the echo's and even possibly setting up a return link. I do not know how close PC checks to see that their customers are valid members of certain Net's. I know that some of the stuff can't be used without special software (RIME??), but for the most part, if you can setup a packer/tosser and you have the $$$$ you immediately become a FidoNet Node without all of the stuff involved, with the potential of creating havoc on the backbone. Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHAWN RATNER Number: 316 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 5:03p Subj: 7th Guest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To anyone who has 7th Guest, I have had it for a few days, solved 3 puzzles. But there are 3 puzzles I can't solve. I have tried for hours but had no luck. 1. In the game Room, how do you position the queens so that they will not be in check? 2. In the bed room how do you solvethe puzzle with the 8 Bishops? 3. In the kitchen what is the sentence that you are sopposed to spell? with the can with letters on them? I know if you go to the library 3 time it will be solved, but I would really want to know how to solve these 3 puzzles. Thank you for your help! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 317 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/03/94 8:55a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dean! DL|Yep, thats it. SortPKT is an "extra" utility given out with |WildMail. The docs even say that it will only work on your |pretossed packets. Won't do a thing for downlinks, and that is |its major shortcoming. Thanks, it seems to be working fine. Yesterday's batch (Saturday) was a croaker, and it seemed to handle it fine. DL|Since you don't pass mail on, the above is not as efficient as it |could be. You are actually processing the mail twice. Once into |the pretoss area, sorting it, then processing again into your |message base. The total time may still be less than it used to |be, since you are actually handling a bunch of messages 3 times |faster. I think it is and will stay with it for the time being. Is there no way around doing it this way (other than the old singular without PRETOSS)? DL|Look for a Netmail in your incoming, will ship you the short text |file. Thanks. I got it. The program when run immediately locked up my system. I don't know if it's something in my settings or if it does indeed not like DV, but it did nevertheless. I will experiment with it more when time permits. Thanks for your continuing help. Hopefully WM4 will correct some of these problems. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 318 To: ALL Date: 04/03/94 11:46p Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions when this happens? Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. Thanks, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 319 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/04/94 12:11a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello John! -> -> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: -> -> -> JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. -> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. -> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 320 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/05/94 7:21a Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:44p Private: No -> Did you get that dish fixed? I've tried to call you 3 different TH> I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a TH> local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru my node in Miami :-) * MKRead v1.04 * Be mischievous and creative, if they fit you. --- GEcho 1.02+/RA2.01+ * Origin: South Florida's Planet Connect Link 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM TRAHAN Number: 321 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/04/94 9:28a Subj: Who Made You God? Refer: NONE Read: 04/05/94 6:46p Private: No Just who exactly made you moderator? It is apparent to me that you have somewhat of an attitude problem yourself! Even if you are moderator (Of which you have been doing a terrible job) to come back after so long and just threaten everybody is way uncool. I myself have not been taking part of any negative posts, but to see someone just come out of the blue and start laying threats to everyone is not what I like to see. Tim Trahan Sysop - The Motherlode BBS --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: -= The Motherlode BBS =- (601) 332-4827 - 7 Nodes, RngDwn (1:3632/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE VOLD Number: 322 To: ROY MUMAW Date: 03/31/94 10:38a Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roy said the following to Steve Vold about Re: Services RM> In a message to Jason Baginski <03-25-94 09:31> Steve Vold wrote: RM> How about "community service" and a realization that not everything RM> has to be "me-first?" Why donate to charity ("unless its like RM> [you're] rich and have nothing better to do with your life :)")? I never said it was/is a terible thing to run a free board, I did it for over a year before getting into it commercially. Going back to how this all started, there were a few people out there saying that all bbs services should be free. Or at least that was the impression they were giving. I was simply stating that not everything in life is *FREE* and shouldn't be. RM> Why carry echos like M_P_D or ABLED or SPINAL_INJURY or join RM> ADANet(tm), as many of the ones most interested are least able to pay? We run a pay board, with a public service area, were we have three things so far, Political Form (send/recieve messages to political parties/people) Missing Children Data base, and Online Jobs. These services are *free* and we will be expanding that section to include some disability needs as well. RM> running my free board as a service to the community. I don't measure RM> success by quantity of callers, but by the quality of enjoyment of RM> those who do call. Matter of fact, that yardstick would also work on RM> pay boards, too <grin>. Nor do we, (by the call) ... I would rather see less calls with real productivity than haveing tons of calls with little productivity. There are alot of options out there, and I don't look at a BBS service as a "fast buck" thing ... It might make some money, but hey, if people are all happy with the service. Whats the problem? Steve --- Pony Express/RA 2.01Pro/FE 1.4+ * Origin: The Pony Express BBS - (403) 783 - 8795 (1:134/5010) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 323 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 12:41p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello John! -> -> In a message to Bill Roper <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: -> -> JL> -> -> JL> -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> JL> -> Wildcat, too.... -> JL> -> -> JL> -> cheers... -> -> JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an -> JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. -> -> -> -> -> Any reason John? I have had a few hangups with it and you cant areafi -> but other than that? No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to check for the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. With 400 file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure like to see someone write something to automate this! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 324 To: ART MACK Date: 04/03/94 7:46p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 02 01:30>, Art Mack of 1:201/70 writes: TH> 99% of the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet TH> policy... Here recently, the other 1% has dominated the discussions. TH> My thanks to the 99%. The other 1% can look forward to feed cuts. AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are you working for AM> Planet Connect? Well, I'm obviously not Tim, but the feed cut is very easy to implement. Since the satellite traffic is broadcast much like radio or TV, the feed cut does not affect what the cut node receives from Planet Connect, but affects any uplinked traffic from that node to 1:3615/50. Once a node is removed from Boyd's echo control file for PLANET_CONNECT, any traffic the "unlinked" node sends to 1:3615/50 simply goes to the bit bucket there and is not sent out over the satellite. Planet Systems does honor requests from moderators for "feed cuts". :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 325 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/03/94 9:41a Subj: Re: ky_da da da Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I do NOT want these K12_ echos forced on my system, just as you do NOT > want my nets local echos forced on your system! I am considering these > K12 echos Bad echomail, as they are NOT in fidonet.na > or fidonet.no, they Boyd, speaking for myself and all the people/hubs/downlinks in our net PLEASE just ignore this "gentelman" if he is unable to figure out how to configure his system to drop unwanted echos/files in the bit buckett then perhaps he should seek help/advise or just drop PC all together. We are very pleased with the service and effort you and all the people at PC are providing keep up the good work and don't let the malcontents get to you. :{) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 326 To: ALL Date: 04/04/94 9:20p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... 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Boyd indicated that they TH>were working on setting up TH>address for us so theat this would be possible. JD> Hi Thomas, I talked sometime ago with Boyd about this and he said that JD> they have decided not to provide a return... that it would be an JD> administrative nightmare. He also said they were looking for a sevice JD> provider to recommend. I would recommend Holonet. I subscribed to them a few weeks ago, and when I told them I was on PC, they said that alot of sysops were using thier services. Of course, I've only been with them for a short time, some of the other sysops could enlighten PC better than I. But it was easy to apply, you can get your own address (os2zone.com), runs $6 a month. Cheers and thanks for the reply, Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 328 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/04/94 5:06p Subj: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Sunday April 03 1994 19:49, Dave Petrucci wrote to John Campbell: >> I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >> John DP> DP> John, DP> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. DP> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer DP> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. DP> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) DP> Dave P. ,,, (o o) -+--ooO-(_)-Ooo-+-- Hmmm! 98 Degrees is normal for a Human.. did you also Tape your Thumb to the Thermometer? <grin> if Not, was the reading in Full Sun, or in the Shade? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#7) * Origin: Answers: Short $1, Correct $25, Dumb looks are Free (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 329 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 04/05/94 7:01p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: 320 Read: NO Private: No -> I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru my node -> in Miami :-). I'll be darned... The only thing I've been pulling from the sky is sun rays. I love it down here |). tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 330 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 03/07/94 6:41a Subj: Test Message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Manual? Manual? You got a manual? Hummm, other than a TB> few pages for the C TB> Band receiver (all the equipment I ordered) and a 3.5" Tim, I was being nice, least trying to. :{) Thanks for the responce at least I know I am making the trip. :{) Jp --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 331 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 03/07/94 11:49a Subj: Weather Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PC> Now I'm wondering if there's a door that can let a user view the weather PC> files online, instead of having to download them everyday. Paul, if you get an answer to this how about forwarding it to me just in case I miss it. thanks.... Jp --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 332 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/14/94 6:18a Subj: TVLIST* And Weather* Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, if your going to make the subject files an added cost item how about moving them to the end of the download stream say after the FidoNet but befor the USENET and making two more error levels to be inserted after the TVList or after the Weather This way those wishing to receive the FidoNet and TVList and/or weather could use the approprieate error level. I for one would not mind saving the time Required to DL these files. :{) Especialy if I am going to have to pay for them. eg: FidoNet (701=on), TVList (702=on), Weather (703=on), UseNet (700=on). each error level would get everything to the left of it. Another thought. Why not put together three different packages. eg: 1) FIDONET cost 1 2) FIDONET, TVList, Weather, USAToday. cost 2 3) Complete package cost 3 Again, these could be controlled by the user thru the use of error levels. And, if your going to scramble the TVList, Weather, USATody and USENet there'd be no reason for the non subscribers to continue to receive them. Just my thoughts. :{) BTW The second option, three packages, would make management and accounting a heck of a lot easier. :{) - Jp - --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 333 To: ANYONE Date: 03/14/94 7:50p Subj: OS2 Vs the Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone figured out how to resolve the dongle problem with OS2? If so would you please share this with us. Thanks....... Really do need to run a multi-tasker if they are going to make the mail continious feed. Thanks in advance for any help...... -Jp- --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 334 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/04/94 12:30p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what John Le Duc wrote on 02 Apr 94 12:38:58: JLD> Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Barry Herbert: CG> There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet CG> NODELIST... JLD> First, I'm not arguing your point, nor making a comment re: Amiga. JLD> I am simply curious as to how you extracted the info from the JLD> nodelist? Is there a flag for Amiga now? If so, I'll put it up JLD> for the two Amigas in our net. I don't know if there is any way to tell from the Nodelist. That figure was told to me by somebody else, a person who keeps the "International Amiga BBS List". Someone told me 3000 several years ago, so I expect this new figure is acccurate given the growth of Fido. For example, the "AMIGA" echomail area has been one of the highest volume backbone echoes for a long time. Amigas are definitely outnumbered by IBMs and compatibles, but Amiga users, on average, are more "power-user" oriented. Great numbers of IBM users are just "users" (no insult meant to IBM users, hell, I use em all day at work) who bought an IBM since they thought that was only kind of computer there is. The point is that there is a market for an Amiga (also Mac, OS/2 native etc) version of the Planet Connect software. Using an IBM is an import peripheral is a pain in the butt, and slows things down for a user of another platform. Especially a user of the oldest pre-emptive multitasking platform. (appologies to ALL if I sound like I'm preaching, AGAIN ;) --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE HUSK Number: 335 To: CHUCK BRIDWELL Date: 04/04/94 11:21p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the >moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller on >another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't put If every hub would remove that conference from their system, the world would be a better place. The moderator is a real twit and not worth the time nor effort to deal with. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#0999) * Origin: * County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 336 To: KEN FLORY Date: 04/04/94 5:42p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Ken Flory Was Heard Saying This To Art Mack: KF> AM> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? Are KF> AM> you working for Planet Connect? KF>You just touched upon something that has alot of moderators, KF>NC's, RC's, etc whirling around in circles. It's pretty simple actualy, when Boyd gets a request from a moderator to cut a link, first he cuts the return from that downlink in that echo, if the downlink continues to disrupt the echo by sending replys via an alternate link, Boyd then will cancel that downlinks contract. On the other hand, most moderators will ask a node to stop a thread first, then if they persist, they are usualy ask to leave the echo, then if they stay they are threatened with a link cut. You see "most" moderators will give an example of the rule broken, "most" moderators are fairly diplomatic, as their are a lot of moderators who frequent this echo, including myself. I think PC has a good way of handling this subject. Regards, Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 337 To: CHUCK BRIDWELL Date: 04/04/94 7:27p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AM>> Tim I am curiuos, how can you cut a satellite feed? CB> What they do is promise not to process any of your return mail CB> inbound to 1:3615/50. ALL areas? Or just the problem area(s)? How about those of us that are feeding others? If, for example, a user in my download gets excessively annoying, and he is to be cut off, as long as I oblige and cut him/her off from the offending echobase, that WILL leave my (and all my other downlinks') feeds intact, wouldn't it? --jah ... At least Gennifer got kissed! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL STEWART Number: 338 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/03/94 12:52p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: Chuck Warren From: John Hrusovszky Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet -------------------------- JH> HOLONET can provide you with a host.domain for, I believe, $50 ( or JH> was it $75? -- have to check in BoardWatch). Holonet can also provide JH> you with a return feed for UseNet and Internet. ASA CompuHelp can also JH> provide you with a return feed, but I'm not sure about getting you a JH> host.domain. Anyone know how to do this in Canada....? Thanks, Paul ... Time on your hands? . . . get Windows. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: Download Dungeon SuperBBS (1:229/318) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 339 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 7:57a Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JK>Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confirm my >outbounds. Thanks. >****************************************************************** >* John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * >* OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * >* 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * >*********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** >--- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) Got it brother! And looking good as usual! * SLMR 2.1a * Cool Baby BBS - "the board with a personality" --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM SETTLE Number: 340 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 03/31/94 8:35a Subj: K12 and rest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! I like the fact that all this K12 and extra echos are comming down the bird, I do hope you keep adding them to the list. If I dont want them I just set them to Pass threw (bit bucket). Personaly think your doing a great job and hope to see more in the future. One person bitching does not reflect the majority of those of us that know better and not say anything. So what there not in Fidonet.na , I vote to keep them and adding more NEW Echos if there as good cause. If these few cant set them as passthru then thats their problem. GO for it! Keep up the great work! Tim --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Wild West BBS Plainview, TX 806-296-6865 (1:3820/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 341 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/04/94 6:40a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. The software (PTTCMAIN) has a limitation or restriction; all files must go to the same drive. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 342 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 3:17p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/03/94> Art Mack wrote: AM> Hello Joe! AM> In a message to John Lyon <04/02/94> Joe Lyda wrote: AM> JL> Hello John! AM> JL> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: AM> JL> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called AM> JL> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called AM> What does MAKEWCFF do Joe, is it a configuration program? WCFF 3.55 seems AM> a little more robust than 3.52. Writes a wcff.cfg on the fly for the files that are to be processed, I haven't seen wcff 3.55 yet to check it out. I wrote makewcff to handle the problems of wcff 3.51 and it does a good job of it. Is wcff 3.55 coming down the pipe soon? Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Have you seen this Tagline? Call 1-800-TAG-THIS! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 343 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/04/94 3:21p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/04/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> Hello John! JL> -> JL> -> In a message to Richard Wallen <03/31/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> JL> -> JL> Raid works fine with WCFF....it's WCFF that sucks. JL> -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be moved. JL> -> JL> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wrote JL> -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me. JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them in about 20 seconds. Joe JL> --- WM v3.10/92-0069 JL> * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) * WCE 1.5/2107 * What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 344 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/04/94 4:01p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Ok sorry for this BUT -> -> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. -> If ya see this please post back <G>.. -> -> Thanks! -> Mark M. -> tlotl@net.com -> -> ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! -> --- Cray Systems .002+ -> * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) -> WELL I SEEN YOUR MESSAGE, KNOW WHAT???????? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIVINGSTON Number: 345 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 4:03p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to confi -> outbounds. Thanks. -> ┌──────────────┬─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ -> │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 │""""│ │ -> │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ -> │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] │ -> └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────-oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ -> --- GEcho/Synchronet -> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) -> I READ YA LOUD AND CLEAR.. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 346 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/04/94 7:40p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! In a message to All <10/26/22> Chris Guertin wrote: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? CG> They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a FILEBONE.NA-style CG> listing of these areas so I can look them over? You can find a satelite.na in the personal directory the comes in off the bird with that list in it. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 347 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/03/94 11:19a Subj: Dongle and OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Johnny, Regarding your message to Wallace Sheldon ..... WS>> A lot of us, as reported here, have tried everything to WS>> get PC to work on OS/2 without any success. I just don't believe WS>> anyone is doing it! JG> I understand your fustration, the problem is I talk to so many people JG> that I cannot remember names. I am trying to find those names, couple JG> of which I can remember first names only. It's possible those people may be able to help us so if you can remember who they are and ask them to give us a hand we sure would appreciate it. Some of us have gone to desperate lengths to get it going. We've heard that it used to work under OS/2 2.0 so we've tried substituting various modules/drivers/managers from 2.0 into our 2.1 systems. No go. We've heard that some parallel ports short pins 18-25 on the DB25 connector which OS/2 doesn't like so we've tried various parallel cards. No go. Right now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have cracked the security in your dongle/software and are using your product in an "irregular" (don't want to say "illegal" <g>) way. We further speculate that Planet Connect doesn't care if the security has been cracked as long as these hackers pay for the service they get (the only decent thing to do) and don't pass the hack on to other people. And that is why we haven't heard from those folks, right? JG> Boyd and I are pressing Aztek for their solution via the dongle. Hopefully JG> we should know something positive in the next couple of days. A fairly reliable source in the OS/2 echo says Planet Connect told him a native OS/2 version is in the works in response to the fact that almost 1/3 of your subscribers are OS/2 users. Do you really have that many OS/2 users signed up? And is there a native OS/2 version under development? Any tentative release date? Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 348 To: ART MACK Date: 04/04/94 8:38p Subj: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Art Mack to Mark Malacarne <=- AM> I know whats its like but yes your messages are getting out. AM> Just got a satellite eh? well .. We've been running the system since Dec. and we've joined with the local co-op to bring in the mail for the net and there was some concern that mail wasn't going out.. <G>.. You just proved them WRONG <GRIN> Thanks!! Mark M. tlotl@net.com ... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 349 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/04/94 6:40a Subj: Re: Lantastic Ai Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Hrusovszky wrote in a message to Jim Watson: DO>> Some other things that you need to check that might help. DO>> If you don't have a 16550, get one. It won't work without DO>> it under DV or a network. JW> It will under Novell... JH> It also will under Lantastic/AI. I don't have a 16550 in my JH> satellite machine, yett don't have any trouble with it. I suspected as much, but without first hand experience... -:) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 350 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/04/94 4:00p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The $40 cost you mention appeals to me. I don't know what > PC Conectivite is though. Could that be PC Connectivity? Ya thats the one . The Writer is Devorac and it is one of thouse bible size computer books that you see in the book store. It will tell you how to adapte a printer cable and connect the printer ports on the two computers and run your network. The book comes with a copy of lantastic Z 4.01 . you can do this or buy the much improved Lantastic Z 5.0 . The 5.0 works much better . but all the "Z" versions of lantasti are for Parallel Port so any would work and you would not have to invest in Network cards . the one drawback in the speed . the network runes about half the speed of a network card. It is OK for moving files but forget running software across the net. > * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta > (1:358/25) Sunny Saskatoon says hi. later Kim. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Dreamtime BBS, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 351 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/04/94 9:04p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello again, Dale! Again, thanks for all your help. DW|I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it |happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. I'll swap with you. Come down here, teach all my computer classes, and I'll babysit your system. Deal? <g> DW|I run it manually from DOS with nothing else running, so it doesn't seem |to mind not being loaded high. I guess not. <g> Have a good one. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 352 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 04/04/94 9:18p Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT|On Sunday, plagued by troubled thoughts of WildMail! 3.1 stuff, |Mac Bryant shared his feelings with Timothy Trace. ^^^ How did you KNOW? <g> Make that a "her" and we're in business. <g> |Four easy steps, Mac. Ahhhh! Your plain ole vanilla kludge, eh? TT|I'd provide you with copies of my batchfiles and such, but by the time I |edit them so anybody else could understand them (!) you'll have figured |out everything on your own... Yes, I will - eventually. I'm getting there. Slowly but surely. | | None of that here. I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, and a | | 1.8 gig drive on the BBS machine with no disk compression necessary. |Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> What's that I see in the tagline - 2.8gig? Who're you kidding? <g> |Mac, I goofed. The "RETURN PROMPT FAST" option is a SMARTDRV.EXE command |line parameter, not a Hyperdisk option. Ah, no wonder I couldn't find reference to it. <g> TT|UI or UI:+ forces EMS far call to use interrupt 67h, which works better |when using DesqView with your system. To restore the original far call |method, specify UI:- Default is disabled. This one I think I need. TT|The latest version of HyperWare's SPEEDKIT is 4.65. Call their |support BBS at 415-882-1735 to pick it up. I'm on my way. Thanks. |Don't give up yet, Mac! You should be able to get 450+/min in the final |toss with that processor, unless you've got some slow turkey hard |drives. Keep working... <g> No, both hard drives are new - I forget the ms access right now but they are both quite fast. I'll get there; I *never* give up - never. <g> |Well, there _is_ no limit to how high a message number can be. I thought there was some problem over 6x,xxx+. No? Oh, well, one less thing I have to worry about. Thanks. TT|There ya go, Mac. Hope I answered all your questions! That you did - for the time being, Timothy. <g> Thanks again, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Sometimes I wake up grouchy, sometimes I let him sleep. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: POSTLINK#1646 (EARTHART) Number: 353 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 04/05/94 2:01a Subj: Routing Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Message #2883 to CHUCK WARREN with a subject of Re: Bbs <-> Internet was not sent out due to the following error in your routing instructions: HOLONET : name not found in dictionary. --- * Earth Art BBS! * N.Charleston, SC * (803)552-4389 * 16.8 Duals! * PostLink(tm) v1.11 EARTHART (#1646) : RelayNet(tm) --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff138/a] * Origin: Earth Art BBS! * GreenNet! * (803) 552-4389 Dual 57.6 (1:372/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 354 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 7:34p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had time to ->really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files which has ->worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava ->File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file ->areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted Allfix's ->author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWCFF may ->be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! FREQ: WCTICK10.ZIP This will create the batch file for ya based on the areas you select! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 355 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/05/94 8:25a Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >DP> Which receiver do you have? I have the little one >DP> -> that goes with the 3ft KU band dish.. and it doesn't >DP> -> get hot at all. Now the power supply gets a quite >DP> warm, -> but never hot.. -> >Dave, > I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >John -> John, -> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. -> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer -> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. -> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) -> Dave P. That is alittle warm, but not excessivly hot... I would venture to say that mine is alittle over that... When you say 98, I am going ot assume that this is Degrees Farenheight, not Centegrade... If C, then you have a big problem... I have mine where it is cooking at about room temp, around 70 deg F with a fan. Guessing, I would say that mine was between 130 to 140 Deg F. John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 356 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 04/05/94 11:01p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Reciev Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> I run the KU with the 2 foot dish >>> John DP>> DP>> John, DP>> I stand corrected, I too have the 2ft dish.. DP>> After my previous post, I taped a thermometer DP>> to the top of it and it reads about 98 degrees. DP>> Not sure if that bad or good.. 8-) GV> Hmmm! 98 Degrees is normal for a Human.. GV> did you also Tape your Thumb to the Thermometer? <grin> GV> if Not, was the reading in Full Sun, or in the Shade? Uh, hey guys, if you are speaking of checking the 'temperature' of an LNB by taping a thermometer to it <G>, that just ain't quite the way it's done. --jah ... Hillary Happens! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 357 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 11:49p Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when -> UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what -> did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions when -> this happens? -> Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. -> Thanks, I run Lantastic 5.0, and having no erros... As amatter of fact, been watching real close over the last 72 hours and I have not gotten not one error.. John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 358 To: TIM HELTON Date: 04/05/94 4:08p Subj: Rules of the echo? Refer: NONE Read: 04/07/94 5:55p Private: No Tim, Again I am requesting that you post the rules of this echo, I have been in hear for over 3 months and never have seen any, if I have missed them, please repost them so I, along with others can stay on topic. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 359 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 12:24a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} Thanks. I got it. The program when run immediately locked up my MB} system. I don't know if it's something in my settings or if it does MB} indeed not like DV, but it did nevertheless. I will experiment with it MB} more when time permits. Well, thats a disappointment. I've used SORTPKT and PSRT both. There is NO comparison in performance. I checked the docs that came with PSRT, and they specifically state that PSRT will work under DOS, DV, and Windows. There's even another version of PSRT that will work under OS/2. There are a few tricks to try in the DOS4GW docs. You might look through them for some ideas. I also rechecked the docs for SORTPKT....It will only work on your own packets that are in the PRETOSS subdirectory. And you are using it exactly as the docs specify. The only apparent way to use SORTPKT is to toss packets to yourself, sort the packets, and toss again into your message base. If it hasn't been mentioned already, check your DataBase lock count in WMCONFIG. Its on the Miscellaneous screen. Should be at 30 for a reasonably fast machine. Hit the F1 key when you are there and the help screen will explain it better than I ever could. MB} Thanks for your continuing help. Hopefully WM4 will correct some of MB} these problems. Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, WM4 may be sometime off. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 360 To: TIMOTHY TRACE Date: 04/05/94 12:59a Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT> DL-> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups in any TT> DL-> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through that many TT> DL-> files to find the right message datafile group. TT> !!! ??? Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 361 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 04/05/94 3:40p Subj: Re: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Steve! In a message to Chuck Bridwell <04/04/94> Steve Husk wrote: SH> >1:3615/50. Having received such a message from Boyd requested by the SH> >moderator of the WHOLLY_BIBLE echo which started with a problem caller SH> >another bbs in our net, I speak from experience. :-) And Boyd didn't pu SH> If every hub would remove that conference from their system, the world wo SH> be a better place. The moderator is a real twit and not worth the time n SH> effort to deal with. And I thought I was the only one feeling that way. I'm all for dropping anything that he is involved with. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 362 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 3:36a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE, On Apr. 03, 1994 at 12:26 , JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 wrote: FW>> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for FW>> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the FW>> nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about FW>> everything and nothing seems to work. JL> Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due JL> to the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes JL> in, lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root JL> directory, and if it is error free and permitted to be on your JL> system it is renamed to the proper name and directory directly to JL> the FAT Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC JL> Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive JL> would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 JL> meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then JL> deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit JL> would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus JL> causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the JL> software and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes JL> only so long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and JL> start a new one. Hmmm. Would DOS APPEND work? John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: SPOT!! Don't chew that cabl@#$#%%$^#%HHF NO TERRIER (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 363 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/04/94 6:53p Subj: UseNet Feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, what is the Status of the USENET feed? The PCUSENET.TXT file stated that all the areas in it SHOULD be online within the next week, and that was dated the 24 of February. Is there a problem? I'm just curious as to where we stand on this. Also, when do you plan on charging for the feed? I would just like to know well in advance. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 364 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/05/94 10:39a Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? CG> They aren't in the FILEBONE.NA, so does anybody have a CG> FILEBONE.NA-style listing of these areas so I can look them CG> over? They are in this weeks listing, but they are restricted to PC downlinks. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 365 To: PAUL STEWART Date: 04/05/94 1:47p Subj: Re: Bbs <-> Internet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyone know how to do this in Canada....? I'm from Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario and I go through HoloNet. They charge $25 to process your app, another $50 for their DNS service and then $6/month + $4-$7/hr connect time. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON KLANK Number: 366 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/05/94 11:10p Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! 28 Mar 94 12:14, Dave Sloan wrote to Jason Klank: >> JK> The program will also SCAN for outgoing mail in the above >> JK> formats, but does NOT support outgoing UseNet mail (it's >> JK> main use is for INCOMING mail). JK>> >> JK> Freq XSH from 1:3639/7 for the full version >> JK> Freq STINKY from 1:3639/7 for the .BAG/Squish only >> JK> version. JK>> >> is it shareware, or a demo, or freeware? JK>> It's shareware, but it is not crippled in any way. > I wish that your BBS worked better then xsh or whatever. I just got my > phone bill and found that I dialed your number 8 times in a row in the > evening at two different intervals, for the past week with no response. > Maybe you should work on improving your answering sequence - like taking > your phone off hook when the computer cannot respond. Hmm...I'd have to look at my log file(s) to see what happened. If you get charged for DIALING a number with no response, then perhaps YOU should change LD carriers. If you got a connect, but no response, then your system should have stopped polling mine after a few tries (unless, YOU don't have your software configured right). Plenty of others have FREQed XSH without any problems, so maybe it's your end. Jason --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! 5.1 Gig! 28.8K V.FC! 803-322-0903 (1:3639/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 367 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/05/94 3:07a Subj: Re: Ok my turn to test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Mark Malacarne to All *** MM> @MSGID: 1:104/918.0 2d9d99a7 MM> @PID: GE 1.02+ MM> Ok sorry for this BUT MM> MM> I just want to make sure that messages are going out <G>.. MM> If ya see this please post back <G>.. MM> MM> Thanks! MM> Mark M. MM> tlotl@net.com MM> MM> ... He's not dead Jim! He's Metabolically Challenged! MM> --- Cray Systems .002+ MM> * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 368 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/05/94 3:07a Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting John Kaufman to All *** JK> @MSGID: 1:104/675 2f007191 JK> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to JK> confirm my JK> outbounds. Thanks. JK> ****************************************************************** JK> * John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * JK> * OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * JK> * 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * JK> *********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** JK> --- GEcho/Synchronet JK> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 369 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 1:22p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! -> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them -> in about 20 seconds. If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 370 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 04/02/94 2:20p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murry! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Murry Francis wrote: MF> <=> Jeff Bowman Was Heard Saying This To All: MF> JB>As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then MF> JB>laplink it all MF> JB>over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. MF> Jeff LapLink has a command line mode that will let you transfer the s MF> over to the main system via a batch file, they are in the LapLink docs. I MF> alot cheaper than a network for this kind of stuff. can you run that thought the parallel <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 371 To: TIM TRAHAN Date: 04/02/94 2:22p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Tim Trahan wrote: TT> Get a Lantastic starter pack, their pretty cheap. Or a novell Lite TT> starter pack would work. Pretty much, nowdays you can buy ethernet TT> cards at arround $70 each, you will need one per computer, then the TT> software. You can get Novell Lite at $59 per node, so you can start off TT> pretty cheap! thanks, I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it? --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 372 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 04/02/94 2:23p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Jeff Bowman <03/28/94> Tim Lajoie wrote: TL> -> As of now, I get everything on the one machine and then laplink it al TL> -> over... This is VERY VERY time consuming. TL> -> TL> -> What is the easy and cheapest way to get a network running TL> Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite starter TL> Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet cards, TL> cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Press "+" to see another tagline. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SKELLY Number: 373 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/04/94 1:11a Subj: Re: School echoes availab Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> I think it would be better if Boyd would distribute his backbone BG>> seperate than zone 1, god knows who will approach him next with their 31 BG> Ohhhhh! I got a few coming. Keep 'em rollin', Boyd! Just ignore the "pothole on the Information Superhighway". <G> Frank * QMPro 1.51 * What this world needs is a damn good plague. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE BELUE Number: 374 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 9:26a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Have heard rumors that ALLFIX is going to be compatible with -> Wildcat, too.... JL> I would give $100 for that!!! I just dumped WCFF for an JL> ALLFIX/WCFILE combo. The WCFILE side is a pain to set up. John, I heard that. I'm using AllFix also, and am getting ready to see what I can do with WCFILE. Would you mind sharing the fruit of your labors? > Mike < Tue, 04-05-94 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 375 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/06/94 5:04a Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday April 03 1994, John Campbell writes to Russell Naber: ->> I too have experienced errors. I am on my third receiver, (PC ->> customer service on this subject is great.) ->> ->> You should see my solution. I took a 2 inch AC boxer fan and stuffed ->> into a old bicycle water bottle on one end and pointed the smaller ->> into the reciever's grill vents to keep air flow across it!! ->> ->> Keeps the reciever cooler, now for the power supply temps, I am ->> crossing my fingers on this one.<g> JC> The power supply is another story...... It gets hot, and even though JC> it looks like it has vents... It is a sealed unit... I am not sure how JC> to go about cooling it... Actually my power supply stays cooler than the JC> reciever ever did, so I am not really worried about that by JC> comparision... Your cooling solution for the reciever is quiet JC> ingenious... Will have to look into some kind of ducting here... Great JC> idea.. JC> -+- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] JC> + Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) Thanks, I found that this setup would not damage the unit. I still need to put some type of fine mesh screen on the water bottle near the fan to prevent sucking in of dust. (even though dust is minimal.<g>) Now if I can only remember to run makecfg when I change the aconfig.sky file and also update the upcheck.cfg file when I do this. Caused about 2 day's grief around here due to my forgetfullness. Russell * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 376 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/05/94 5:10p Subj: WildMail 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT->MB| I have a 1.05 gig drive on the PC machine, a 1.8 gig drive on TT->MB| the BBS machine with no disk compression. TT| Sheesh. Must be nice to be **RICH**. <g> MB| What's that I see in (your) tagline - 2.8gig? MB| Who're you kidding? <g> :-) Actually, my whole 2.8gig is CD-ROMs and TapeDoor. I've got 20 Colorado Memory Systems' Jumbo 250's on-line. <wicked grin> That tag line is a goof. I've changed it. It should read "1.8gig". I wonder if that's false advertising... But, by the time you read this, I should be pushing 3.3gig. Here's how it stacks up: 2) Mitsumi single-speed CD-ROM readers w/ 650m discs in each 2) Maxtor 7213a 245mb IDE hard disk drives And the big daddy! <G> This is IRS money, of course! 1) Micropolis 1750mb IDE hard disk drive I love Uncle Sam. Well, to phrase that correctly, I love when Uncle Sam lets me withold a little extra so's I can have a yearly shopping spree! Have a good one, Mac! Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 1.9gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 377 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/05/94 7:12a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Fred Whittom wrote in a message to All: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for -> FW> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all -> FW> the nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just -> FW> about everything and nothing seems to work. -> -> Suffice to say that the way the PC software works what you want to do -> only unlikely but -absolutely- impossible. -> -> greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com -> -> ... Diversity is God's way of amusing himself. -> -> --- timEd-B9 -> * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) Iwas afraid of that.. Thanks Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 378 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/05/94 7:13a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Fred! -> -> In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for rece -> FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and dr -> FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing -> FW> to work. -> Fred all drive letters have to be the same in the rulebase due to -> the way the software handles the file naming. The file comes in, -> lets asume on C: drive under a funky name in the root directory, -> and if it is error free and permitted to be on your system it is -> renamed to the proper name and directory directly to the FAT -> Table and is never moved from where it is received by PC -> Software. To recieve it on C: drive and move it to D: drive -> would cause some bigtime programing problems. If a file was 1.4 -> meg in size and it had to be copied from drive to drive then -> deleted from first drive would take time which the sending unit -> would not have any way to tell how fast your drive(S) are thus -> causing wasted transmission time. The way it is now the software -> and timing are in sink with the sending unit as it takes only so -> long on a 286/12 and a 120ms hd to rename the file and start a -> new one. -> -> Joe -> Thanks for the input, I will just have to get a bigger drive. Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 379 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/06/94 12:22p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB>can you run that thought the parallel I stand corrected, I tried laplink using the parallel, and no luck, I am now trying Lantastic Z with the parallel cable setup. I'll let ya know how it works. Murry --- GEcho/InterMail/RA.. * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN SVATY Number: 380 To: ALL Date: 04/06/94 4:30p Subj: TVLISTxx.ARC in Dallas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are any BBS's in the Dallas area carring the TVLIST for TVAGENT? I was interested in obtaining this from Planet Connect but if I have to call long distance it probably would not be worth it. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: TCR'S Revenge (1:124/4218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 381 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/06/94 11:38p Subj: WCTICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL} -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in JL} -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's JL} -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them JL} -> in about 20 seconds. JL} If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus. WCTICK works GREAT! Create the file areas in MakeWild. Call up WCTICK, tag the file areas you want from a menu, and hit F10. Your batch file appears in less than 20 seconds. Indented, labels, everything in perfect order. FREQ WCFILE from 1:3611/15 Thank You, Chuck! Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALE WOOD Number: 382 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/06/94 5:49a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dale Wood <04/04/94> Mac Bryant wrote: MB> Hello again, Dale! MB> Again, thanks for all your help. MB> DW|I wish I could be gone while this was taking place. I have to make it MB> |happen "by hand" everyday. No days off for me for awhile. MB> I'll swap with you. Come down here, teach all my computer classes, and MB> I'll babysit your system. Deal? <g> Hmmm. I taught college for a couple of years only to find out most of my students hadn't really gotten out of grammar school yet. Think I'll stay in front of my machine. At least it doesn't lose homework, flunk finals, or make excuses why it doesn't come to class expecting me to believe it. Dale * WCE 1.5/2064 * (A)bort, (R)etry, (D)etonate --- WM v3.10/92-0250 * Origin: Dragnet BBS Oceanside,CA. 619-940-1985 (1:202/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 383 To: ALL Date: 04/02/94 7:23a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi people. I was wondering if anyone was having or had a simular problem and could help me here. I'm running a 386SX 20 Bridgecard on an AMiga 3000. The card is fully IBM compatable. When receiving data I seem to be picking up only every other file or mail packet. I talk to Boyd and he tried slowing down the pause between files but that didn't help. I'm getting no errors. The current file header doesn't change and the block count goes beyound the original size. Any ideas as to why it's not picking up the headers in sequence???? Thanks __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth POWERED by SATELLITE --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.70 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 384 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 04/06/94 3:37p Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/05/94> John Herrbach wrote: JH> Hello JOE, JH> On Apr. 03, 1994 at 12:26 , JOE LYDA of 1:3622/1000 wrote: JH> FW>> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for JH> FW>> receiving files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the JH> FW>> nets and drive D for all the files. I have tried just about JH> FW>> everything and nothing seems to work. JH> Hmmm. Would DOS APPEND work? Not that I am aware of. * WCE 1.5/2107 * --- A naked man fears no pickpocket --- --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 385 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/06/94 3:38p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/05/94> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t JL> -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh JL> -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell JL> -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f JL> -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All JL> -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC JL> -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! JL> -> JL> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in JL> -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's JL> -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them JL> -> in about 20 seconds. JL> If this is true, there is a God! Thanks Joe! Yes there is a God and this is true. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Just in one of my moods. <burp> I think that helped. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE BELUE Number: 386 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 11:05p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hellava JL>File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 file JL>areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. John, I just recently discovered WCFILE, and have been planning to try and marry it with AllFix. I'd like to see a portion of your BAT file (not all 400 lines <g>). I'm thinking that I can use 4DOS' GLOBAL command to avoid having to specify each directory. JL>author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. That sure would be nice to have. > Mike < Tue, 04-05-94 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 387 To: ANYONE Date: 04/07/94 1:24p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well I Would like to know who and how to get the right software and what knot to get into rime. any help would be greate ! harold --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 388 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 9:56a Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program for viewing, I would be interested in hearine what door program you use and how well it works. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 389 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/07/94 11:00a Subj: UPLD.LST Error Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Recently I have begun to get an A,R,I,F error on my network when -> -> UPLD.LST is coming in. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, wh -> -> did you do to correct it? I can lose a half day of transmissions w -> -> this happens? -> -> Nothing seems to work except Abort and start PCSKY again. -> -> Thanks, -> -> I run Lantastic 5.0, and having no erros... As amatter of fact, been -> watching real close over the last 72 hours and I have not gotten not -> error.. Some folks see this problem running networks, and some don't. The problem seems to be that PTCCMAIN is trying to delete the old copy of UPLD.LST at the same time that it has it open internally. The only solution I'm aware of is to set SKYDRIVE to a non-networked drive. As to why some folks can run without seeing this I have no idea. When I had SKYDRIVE set to a netwirked drive I would get this error 3-4 times per week. Several others have reported seeing the identical problem, while others with apparently similar setups don't see it at all. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 390 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/07/94 10:57a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> can you run that thought the parallel Jeff your 'sig.imp' seems to be missing <g>. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 391 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 04/06/94 8:10p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Tom Haavisto wrote on 03 Apr 94 02:53:11: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone TH> else TH> is running if this is true... Same one you have, but there's no way to tell from the Nodelist itself. There are simply that many BBSs on Fido that are run with Amigas. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 392 To: JOHN CAMPBELL Date: 04/04/94 11:18a Subj: Planet Connect Reciever Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JC>hot as this thing runs, I can't help to believe that it was not a JC>tempature related failure.... I have since come up with a simple I wouldn't be surprised, since I had a "distinctive ring" box placed over the IDC receiver - the ring box wouldn't work properly after a while. I then moved the ring box to another location and its been working fine (the ring box) ever since. .Paul * OLX 2.1 TD * Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay. --- WM v3.10/92-0414 * Origin: -≡ CompuBBS ≡- Edmundston,NB - (506) 735-3831 - (1:255/20.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 393 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 04/06/94 9:39p Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: TEST BY: Glenn Vermette to John Kaufman on Tue Apr 05 1994 03:07 am > *** Quoting John Kaufman to All *** > > JK> @MSGID: 1:104/675 2f007191 > JK> Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply to this to > JK> confirm my > JK> outbounds. Thanks. > JK> ****************************************************************** > JK> * John Kaufman * Fidonet: 1:104/675 *""""* * > JK> * OFFWoRLD BBS * Internet: john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org * > JK> * 303-343-6978 * ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo )] * > JK> *********************************************-oOO**(__)**OOo****** > JK> --- GEcho/Synchronet > JK> * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343*0691/0693/6978 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 394 To: FRED WHITTOM Date: 04/07/94 10:35a Subj: Second Drive Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Fred Whittom to Joe Lyda <=- -> Hello Fred! -> -> In a message to All <03/31/94> Fred Whittom wrote: -> -> FW> Has anyone tried to use 2 different hard drives (C&D) for rece -> FW> files and messages. I want to use drive C for all the nets and dr -> FW> for all the files. I have tried just about everything and nothing -> FW> to work. Have you tried subst c: d:\imcoming ? or something like that? I would think that you maybe able to trick the software into thinking its writing to the local drive when it really writing to the network.. Hope it helps Mark tlotl@net.com ... Answers: $1, Short: $5, Correct: $25, dumb looks are still free. --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 395 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/05/94 1:38p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > feeding others? If, for example, a user in my download gets > excessively annoying, and he is to be cut off, as long as I > oblige and cut him/her off from the offending echobase, that > WILL leave my (and all my other downlinks') feeds intact, > wouldn't it? Not to answer for anyone else, but :-) The answer is yes, your feed would remain intact. Actually this was one of the worst little nigglies discussed in the lead up to the PC service (amazing how much agonizing goes on over such stuff [grin]). But even from a simplistic view, if a moderator contacts you to sever a feed and you comply, he will never even communicate with PC. That is one of the reasons why it is very important for PC Sites redistributing echomail to keep their NEC informed of their downlinks. Normally a feed cut request will be sent to the NEC (after hopefully the offending sysop has first been contacted). If information about who is feeding whom is not at the NEC's finger tips, he cannot act and PC gets involved totally unnecessarily. Whereas a properly informed NEC would simply contact the PC feed and let him/her know the situ; problem solved, no PC involvement. Again, it comes down to a bit of cooperation. Anyway, you have it right, so nothing to worry about :-) .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY TRACE Number: 396 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/06/94 10:36p Subj: WildMail! 3.1 stuff... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TT> DL-> Joe also recommends no more than 40 message data file groups -> TT> DL-> one subdirectory. Wildmail will lose time wading through th -> TT> DL-> files to find the right message datafile group. -> -> TT> !!! -> -> ??? That's a good 'un. Tim --- WM v3.10/93-0878 * Origin: *NEVERLAND* v.32b, v.42b, 1.9gig, 24hours daily (1:100/440.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 397 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 04/07/94 2:30a Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TL> Computer Shopper has many vendors that sell a Network Lite st -> TL> Kit for around $300. That includes 2 copies of NWL, 2 ethernet ca -> TL> cable and connectors. Not a bad deal. -> -> I have Lantasti AI. Is that any good I've never used it so I can't say for sure, however, I have noticed that alot of vendors offer the choice betwwen AI and Netware Lite. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDY KEEVES Number: 398 To: ALL Date: 04/05/94 2:01p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No For those of you who have been waiting patiently for the Planet Connect ILink packets here's an update on our progress (or lack thereof)... In a few words - no progress. I have spoken with the folks at Planet Connect a few times over the last month+ however, it seems they are "not ready", whatever that means. Intended uplink tests have been pushed back for various reasons, phone calls are not returned. Frankly, I gave up chasing them at my own cost. Planet Connect does not give away their service to you free - as such I'd call them a business. As a business they are unresponsive even to a free source of materials they can bill for. As of today the prescans intended for the satellite have been stopped (the packets were just accumulating on disk anyhow, going nowhere). I am sorry I don't have any better news for you on this but frankly, I have neither the time nor the money to keep calling them over and over. If/when they get a bit organized perhaps we'll try again. --- ■ 1st 1.11 #8bt ■ The difference between doing it and not doing it is doing i+ ■ RNET 2.002: ILink: Executive Network ■ Mount Vernon, NY ■ (914)667-4567 --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 399 To: CYRUS CATHEY Date: 04/03/94 4:16p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Cyrus! Replying to a message of Cyrus Cathey to Marty Duplissey: :}->> If Anyone is interested I have wipped up a fix for using raid with :}->> Wcff. It is in testing right now and if all goes well will be put :}->> up freq in the next few days. This utility will allow you to make :}->> multip at raid messages while tweeking the appropiate wcff.cfg :}->> file. Let me there is any interest before we waste the bandwith to :}->> distribute it. CC> I am also interested. Let us know when it is ready and we will pick CC> it up or you can send it to Ron Woods so we can all get it. Freqable as Magic name of PRERAID. Marty! --- FleetStreet 0.85wb * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview, TX (903) 643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 400 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/05/94 7:26p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to check f -> the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. With 400 -> file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure like -> see someone write something to automate this! -> Bet I got what you need. It's called PreRaid, Freq by that name. Will allow WCFF to allow raid to work with multiple config files for those HUGE file listings. --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 401 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/08/94 1:09p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Tom Haavisto: CG> Check out what Tom Haavisto wrote on 03 Apr 94 02:53:11: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone TH> else TH> is running if this is true... CG> Same one you have, but there's no way to tell from the CG> Nodelist itself. There are simply that many BBSs on Fido CG> that are run with Amigas. Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it that -you- know? greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... In every revolution there is one man with a vision. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 402 To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 04/08/94 2:11p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HC} Well I Would like to know who and how to get the right software HC} and what knot to get into rime. any help would be greate ! HC} harold Contact Bonnie Anthony at her BBS. BBS name is RUNNING-A Phones: 301-229-5623 or 301-229-5342 You will need to purchase POSTLINK software ($30-$40?), and a set of UTI drivers if you don't run PCBoard software. Once you have POSTLINK set up, she will advise you on which hub to call. Call her BBS and look around, I'm sure there are download'able text files explaining RIME. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 403 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/08/94 4:56p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyway, it took about 10 mins from unzip to running ALL the FDN's -> from Planet Connect to Wildcat and my downlinks! The only short -> commings it had, if you can even say that, is the limitation of 79 -> Lines and the /E switch for WCfile. It only took a minute to do a -> "find and replace" on the WCTICK.BAT with my text editor to add the -> /E switch and 250 lines on each area. Everything is working -> flawlessly! I was so tickled I could have just kissed you! <g> Yeah, I've been asked to make a few changes, which I'm going too! Right now I'm finishing up an AREAS.BBS & FIDONET.NA/.NO/*.* comparison program. It's actually done, just need to document it. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANIS KRACHT Number: 404 To: BARRY HERBERT Date: 04/08/94 8:25a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Barry, BH> The current file header doesn't change and the BH> block count goes beyound the original size. BH> Any ideas as to why it's not picking up the headers in sequence???? We've run Planet Connect on a number of different systems here, and right now we're running it on a 386-16 DX system with a 16550AFN. We've noticed that if we shell out of the program and come back in, that the block count is not properly updated (it hasn't incremented enough) and for the file that we're currently getting the header doesn't change and the block count goes beyond the original size. Since this didn't happen on a 386-33 DX system with a 16450 UART, we're kind of leaning toward thinking the software can't handle the slower system speed. The only other factor involved is that the 386-16 has a slightly slower hard drive. I don't know the internals of the software, but I would guess that the software is blowing off the delay between files if the block count at the time the delay comes is less than the "expected" block count. We deal with this situation by never shelling out (we exit the program and then come back in). Obviously in your situation you need to either change hardware, persuade the folks at Planet Connect to improve the software or give up on Planet Connect <smile> Take care, Janis --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: PDN HQ (914)344-0350 HST/V32T 343-7540 HST/V32b (1:272/38) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 405 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 04/08/94 7:51p Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim St. John wrote in a message to All: JSJ> If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program JSJ> for viewing, I would be interested in hearine what door JSJ> program you use and how well it works. I'm using Qreader version 3.2, registration $25.00, not crippled when unregistered (just displays a message to callers that it is unregistered). It handles more than just USA Today - also does Newsbytes and others. Archive name QREAD32.ZIP - came down through PC back in December. Sorry, no freq's here yet. It works very well - I'm happy with it and so are my callers. I have registered it too, BTW. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 406 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 6:30a Subj: PCFU Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Could some send me an example of the batch file to use PCFU. I have one created but when it goes to process the .TIC files, it says something to the effect of duplication.. Any help would be great <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * ... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine... --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 407 To: ALL Date: 04/07/94 6:32a Subj: Lantasti AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I have a zinger for you Lantasti people.. I just got a 2 node lic. and Im having problems. Im using WD8000 cards and everything works great.. I have login to each machine run though net chat... everything.. Util I goto copy for run a file from another machine. The the system reboots of freezes... Any suggestions <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Birthplace of WcEDIT 504-796-5860 THE NDE BBS --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 408 To: RONNIE TOTH Date: 04/06/94 5:42p Subj: RADIST Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ronnie! Monday March 28 1994 10:47, Ronnie Toth wrote to RADIST Interests: RT> !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE !! NOTICE RT> !! RT> Effective April 1, 1994 THANK YOU! RT> Barring Unforseen Difficulties GOD FORBID! Thank you, Brian ... He who laughs, lasts. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 409 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/06/94 5:47p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? % From : Rick Johnston 1:229/2 09 Jan 94 21:45:10 % To : Tim Pearson % Subj : AD (Author Direct) FDN %────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ─ % > BG> Please be aware of not forwarding any areas that % > BG> begin with AD- as this is a closed distribution. % % > Could you send out an updated NEWFILES.TXT over the link or post % > here the list of tag names and descriptions for these file areas % > so that we can configure our .tic processors to process and % > properly secure the new AD-* stuff? % % %Hi Tim % % Here's the listing, straight from an "official" AD file (note the the %various "required" bits would likely apply only to "official" Author-Direct %nodes) % % %- - - - - begin quote - - - - - %This is a listing of the various file areas associated with the AUTHOR-DIRECT %File Distribution Network. The AREATAG names are used by the various File %Tossing utilities which process incoming files. All Network HUBS are required %to carry ALL areas, and should add all of these areas to their File Tossing %configurations (i.e. TICK, ALLFIX, etc). % %AREATAG Description %----------------------------------------------------------------------------- % (Optional for End Nodes% Required for Hubs) % AREA ADIRLIST 0 ! AUTHOR-DIRECT Nodelist (full) AREA ADIRDIFF 0 ! AUTHOR-DIRECT Nodediff (differences) AREA ASP-MEMB 0 ! ASP Membership Files (Membership Applications, Info, etc) AREA ASP-CAT 0 ! ASP Products Catalogs (Full, Windows, etc) % (Required for All Nodes) AREA AD-BUS 0 ! Business/Finance Programs AREA AD-COMM 0 ! Communications Programs AREA AD-DOSAP 0 ! DOS Application Programs AREA AD-DOSDK 0 ! DOS Desktop Programs AREA AD-DOSGM 0 ! DOS Games AREA AD-DOSUT 0 ! DOS Utilities AREA AD-EDUC 0 ! Educational Programs AREA AD-ENGMT 0 ! Engineering & Math Programs AREA AD-GRAPH 0 ! Graphics Programs AREA AD-HOMHB 0 ! Home & Hobby Programs AREA AD-OS2AP 0 ! OS/2 Application Programs AREA AD-OS2DK 0 ! OS/2 Desktop Programs AREA AD-OS2GM 0 ! OS/2 Games AREA AD-OS2UT 0 ! OS/2 Utilities AREA AD-PROGT 0 ! Programming Tools AREA AD-PROGM 0 ! Programming Misc AREA AD-VERT 0 ! Vertical Market Programs AREA AD-WINAP 0 ! Windows Application Programs AREA AD-WINDK 0 ! Windows Desktop Programs AREA AD-WINGM 0 ! Windows Games AREA AD-WINUT 0 ! Windows Utilities %------------ ----------------------------------------- %NOTE TO ALL "TICK" USERS - If you are using TICK to automate the processing of %inbound Network files, you are *REQUIRED* to implement the REPLACE option in %your TICK configuration file. This option allows the author to specify a %filename that should be "replaced" by the new version that you have just %recieved. This option can either 1) delete the older file, or 2) move the older %file to another directory. Either way, this allows the author to remove older %versions of their files from distribution if they desire. This is an allowed %option for ASP authors, and ASP BBS and Disk Vendor members are required by ASP %policy to abide by the authors wishes regarding their older versions. As such, %the AUTHOR-DIRECT File Distribution Network makes this option available to them. % %If other file tossing software is also capable of this feature, users are also %required to implement it. We are only familiar with the TICK software, and can't %be specific regarding other utilities. But we do require that you implement such %features if they are available to you. % %The ASP authors are given this option on the Network file submission form, and %it is made *VERY* clear to them that they *MUST* own the rights to any filename %that they specify in this field. Any violation or abuse of this feature by %authors will be dealt with on legal levels by the network administration. If you %suspect any such violation or abuse, please make the network administration %officials aware of it immediately. %----------------------------------------------------------------------------- % %If you are a Network End Node, and wish to automate the processing of the %inbound Network files, you can obtain a file called TICK210.ARJ from the Network %HQ system, or ask your Hub sysop if they have it. By running the TICK program %after recieving the files from your Hub, the new files recieved will be %processed and automatically placed in your download areas for you. % %Note that the TICK program is compatible with the FILES.BBS file description %format by default, but it can also be configured for compatibility with nearly %any BBS file description format which uses an ASCII file for online file %descriptions. % %- - - - - end quote - - - - - % % hope this was of use to you... % % Rick Johnston % ASP Author Direct Hub, % Eastern Canada :) % % %-!-- % ! Origin: Alpha City BBS, Oshawa, ON (905)579-6302 (1:229/2) % % %--- GoldED 2.40 % * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) Just export this to a text file... Thank you, Brian ... America never lost a war or won a conference. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 410 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/06/94 5:47p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEPHEN HARRIS Number: 411 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/08/94 1:55p Subj: k-12 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Emmett Perdue to Boyd Goodin <=- BG> Fine. Anyone else feel this way? Gheese, you try to help out and EP> Not here, or that I see in the echo....just the $#%$#%#@'s like Murry SH> I am a Bluewave user, sent my registration money yesterday. I have fun exploring BBs's and their boards. I logged into a BBs which had about 40% of their echoes devoted to K-12. So far they average 30 total echoes so about 12 to K-12. I was disappointed in seeing so much selection devoted to K-12. Also each K-12 topic contained around 4-6 posts. Three of the topic areas had 25 posts consisting of the moderator posting the rules to the board 25 times. I have a warning beep that tells me when my message is 80% redundant. Maybe this is a local choice, that sysop is in a rural effort. But I don't use his BBs because of this. I intend this as information that you might not know because I am so far down the scale from you. You do have a hard job...it is quality spiritual work or maybe you like the word service better and it will pay you dividends. But if something is driving you crazy don't force yourself. Getting off topic <g> Bye. ... Backups offline save backups on line or better UPCASTE than downcast! --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: The Chamber II * 408-336-5325 * Ben Lomond,CA (1:216/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 412 To: MIKE BELUE Date: 04/08/94 12:58p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hella -> JL>File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 fi -> JL>areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. -> -> John, -> -> I just recently discovered WCFILE, and have been planning to -> try and marry it with AllFix. I'd like to see a portion of -> your BAT file (not all 400 lines <g>). I'm thinking that I can -> use 4DOS' GLOBAL command to avoid having to specify each -> directory. -> Here 'tis... REM Created with WCTICK by Chuck Warren C: CD \WC :1 If Not Exist E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS Goto 2 Wcfile /D:E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS /A:30 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T Del E:\GAMES\FILES.BBS :2 If Not Exist D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS Goto 3 Wcfile /D:D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS /A:55 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T Del D:\CD\MAGAZ\FILES.BBS :3 If Not Exist D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS Goto 4 Wcfile /D:D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS /A:62 /P:1,12,14,250 /C /E /T /F Del D:\CD\DOORS\FILES.BBS Just Freq WCTIC10.ZIP and it will write your batch file for you! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 413 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 04/08/94 1:03p Subj: usa today door Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> If anyone is using the usa today feed with a door program for viewing -> would be interested in hearine what door program you use and how well -> works. Using Usadoor by Jeff Bisson, works great! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 414 To: STEVE OLIVER Date: 04/08/94 12:57p Subj: Up but with questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Steve Oliver writes: SO> Ok, My fidonet works fine, my Pcusenet files come down, and SO> I am looking into using Dovemail to process them into .msg SO> or whatever. I just would like to hear your opinions on SO> what works best to turn those .bag files into .msg so that I SO> can pass them on to my downlinks? My outbound return mail SO> is no problem, it is the inbound that need to be changed. Here's a biased suggestion: Grab GIGO if you have a 386 or better on that machine with a little bit of memory to spare. It's a full-fledge gateway program that even allows for wildcards on the newsgroup names; it's us$20 shareware. I'll let others comment on how well it handles things for them, since I'm _obviously_ biased :-) How to get the most recent version of GIGO: *Note* GIGO requires a 386sx or greater. It also requires a 2 meg machine; possibly more memory if you are disk caching etc. 1: Fidonet style file request to 1:203/7707 (1-916-484-0934) for "GIGO". My system is running a USR Sportster v32b 14400 modem, if modem compatabilities are an issue. Alternatively, send your request to 1:203/8055, which is a USR Dual Standard, with HST mode going up to 16800. 2: By email; send email to fileserv@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com, message body "GET GIGO". The file will be sent uuencoded back to you. Note that if you are using a .fidonet.org address, the gateway will not honor the request, as to prevent file routing in fidonet, a bad-bad-no-no. All other addresses will be honored. 3: Via the internet, using FTP: ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler This site is the first site to get any new version. Copies are also sent to ftp.fidonet.org and to ftp.halycom.com, but will usually be as many as a few days behind. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd 1.00/gamma+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 415 To: ANDY KEEVES Date: 04/09/94 1:18p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In a few words - no progress. I have spoken with the folks at > Planet Connect a few times over the last month+ however, it seems they > are "not ready", whatever that means. Intended uplink tests have been > pushed back for various reasons, phone calls are not returned. Funny, I have called your number twice in the late evenings and no answer. > Frankly, I gave up chasing them at my own cost. Planet Connect does > not give away their service to you free - as such I'd call them a > business. As a business they are unresponsive even to a free source > of materials they can bill for. First off. You guys wanted a secure system like RIME's. When I started talking with you's I did not know that we only had a few areas available and all secure areas were taken up. We have to change the software a bit to accomodate you. If you want ILINK going over tommorrow then put the mail files in the name format of ILINKNET.Z?? and I can have em going over in a heart beat. But do not expect them to be in a secure enviroment. In otherwords everyone will be able to get them until the next release of the software. > As of today the prescans intended for the satellite have been > stopped (the packets were just accumulating on disk anyhow, going > nowhere). I am sorry I don't have any better news for you on this but I hope I did not lead you into the false impression of us picking them up! Our policy is that if you drop off to us we will not charge you for distribution over the satellite and if we do have to pick it up then we will consider the ILINK network as NON-AMATURE and will charge the network for distribution over the satellite. > frankly, I have neither the time nor the money to keep calling them > over and over. If/when they get a bit organized perhaps we'll try > again. As you stated we are a business. We have other things going on that take priority over getting a net onboard, but if you want them going over in the unsecure mode then let me know and I will do it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK HOPKINS Number: 416 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 04/07/94 10:10p Subj: phone and dish? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TH> I'm feedhornless right now... I'm getting all the mail from a > TH> local node using ma bell. Everything else is working, though. > > I don't think so Tim, you are getting the mail from PC thru > my node in Miami :-) Whew! I thought he might have a "dish" fit if he didn't get his feed from a satellite. <grin> You know he has a big appetite sometimes and I remember him getting his first "taste" from me up here....Glad to hear he has that "fix"ed.....<smile> --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Atlanta Information System, Tucker Georgia, U.S.A. (1:133/613) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 417 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/08/94 5:08p Subj: Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Saskatoon! MN> Ya thats the one . The Writer is Devorac and it is one of thouse bible MN> size computer books that you see in the book store. Good ol' Dvorak, good author! Thanks Mike, I'll check it out. Though I'm still looking for an OS/2 solution so I can keep it all on one computer,I may find the PC feed overloads this old 386DX-33. MN> you would not have to invest in Network cards . the one MN> drawback in the speed . the network runes about half MN> the speed of a network card. It is OK for moving files MN> but forget running software across the net. Wouldn't need to do that, just move files. I assume you have this scheme implemented. How fast does this method work compared to transfers through 2 serial ports connected with a null modem cable and locked at 38400? Kim --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Sailboard Hanna, Alberta (403) 854-4309 (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 418 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 04/09/94 2:16a Subj: OS/2 vs. The Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Joe, I just got my receiver a few days ago and have tried each and every trick I've heard of to get it going. No luck so far. I think the only people who have it working are those who have modified the code themselves. I can't blame them for not sharing their hack since it could cause legal complications for them. Yet there is hope! I received the following minutes ago. * Original Area : NETMAIL * Destination Area : Planet_Connect * Original Sender : Jon Anderson, 1:321/325 * Original Recipient : Kim Bergman, 1:358/25 * Date of Original : 09.04.94, 04:16 =================== FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS ================== Kim ... just got off phone with PC ('Bob ....' , tech support) who tells me the new code addressing the OS/2 problem is now in beta , and they're working on it. the solution probably will require a different dongle ... He added my name to his file of 'we needs it''s .... ya might wanna do that , too ... let's hope ... -!- msged 2.07 ! Origin: Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * 1:321/325@fidonet.org (1:321/325) ======================== END FORWARDED MESSAGE ==================== It can't be too much longer now. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 419 To: PC Date: 04/09/94 8:47a Subj: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have received a number of inquiries about where to get a Planet Connect system. Would you post an address(s) or something once in awhile just to let people know. Could you leave a netmail address that they could inquire too. The following is a message that I received today. >I am looking for a point of contact with Planet Connect. I noticed (OS2BBS >echo) that you have ordered a dish. I'd really appreciate a name, fido >address, phone no., whatever you have that will get me in touch with PC. This was from Jerry Kuhn of 206/2401 and he learned about PC from the OS2BBS echo. Maybe a post in that echo would suffice. If not I will forward your reply. Thanks --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 420 To: ALL Date: 04/09/94 7:01p Subj: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi guys . I was wondering if any one else is running XSH to toss *.BAG files into a message base unscaned and then exporting them out of the message base with gecho to export them. I am having some problems with this . It keeps hanging the computer when I try to import the *.BAG files into *.msg and trying to do this with the JAM message base gives me an exeption 13 error from qemm and you can not do it at all with a Hudson message base. any help at all would be greatly appreceated. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Dreamtime BBS, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 421 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/10/94 9:14p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> -> -> -> -> No Problem with Allfix at all Art! It's the batch file to c -> -> -> the files.bbs in each subdir and running Wcfile on each. Wi -> -> -> file areas it's very time consumming to write. I would sure -> -> -> see someone write something to automate this! -> -> -> -> -> Bet I got what you need. It's called PreRaid, Freq by that name. W -> -> allow WCFF to allow raid to work with multiple config files for th -> -> HUGE file listings. -> -> -> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a seemless -> merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better that Raid/WCFF! you aren't going to keep it a secret now, are you????? please??? Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEXTER WRIGHT Number: 422 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/11/94 12:23a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called -> JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called -> JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be -> JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be mov -> JL> -> -> JL> -> Give them a shot and let me know what you think of them. I wr -> JL> -> them to overcome WCFF's short coming and they work well for me -> -> JL> I did take a quick look at them yesterday Joe, I haven't had t -> JL> really take a good look yet. I'm using TICIT to move the files wh -> JL> worked well these past few months. I *LOVE* Allfix, it's one hell -> JL> File Processor! The bad part is writing the batch file for 400 f -> JL> areas for WCfile to handle the descriptions. I have contacted All -> JL> author regarding a WC version, still waiting on an answer. MAKEWC -> JL> be an easier alternative for most......I'll let ya know...Thanks! -> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them -> in about 20 seconds. Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- links get their tic files, they complain about that. Dexter --- WM v3.10/93-0937 * Origin: 900 Club 719-527-0875 (1:128/158) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEXTER WRIGHT Number: 423 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/10/94 11:27p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. Even in canabalistic societies they pay more per pound for womens brains than mens.<g> --- WM v3.10/93-0937 * Origin: 900 Club 719-527-0875 (1:128/158) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 424 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/10/94 7:44p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 08 Apr 94 13:09:40: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone GS> Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it GS> that -you- know? I don't _know_ as such, I have just heard this from a guy who keeps a world-wide Amiga BBS list and has been compiling these stats for a while. That's only a 1/5 of the nodes in the nodelist, so why do you guys find it so hard to believe? There are over 5 million Amigas in use worldwide. It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when other platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be some kind of "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. I use several platforms on a regular basis, including IBMs. It's a big world out there guys... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 425 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 04/10/94 7:51p Subj: Re: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Brian Hess wrote on 06 Apr 94 17:47:00: BH> Hello Chris! BH> Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All: CG> What are the AD-* file echoes? <etc> Thanx for the detailed reply Brian. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 426 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/10/94 11:55p Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have received a number of inquiries about where to get a Planet Connect > system. Would you post an address(s) or something once in awhile just to Here it is: Planet Systems Inc. 1065 Cosby Hwy. Newport Tn. 37821 615-623-8300 ....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 427 To: ALL Date: 04/10/94 11:58p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you all for your support. These areas will always be in with the regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this system for processing. ....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 428 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/10/94 11:01a Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN>import the *.BAG files into *.msg and trying to do this with the MN>JAM message base gives me an exeption 13 error from qemm and you Netmail on the way..0.5(hopefully, _still_ awaiting docs) soon to be hatched into the XSH filebone area. --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 429 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 04/10/94 12:00p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN>can not do it at all with a Hudson message base. any help at all Otay, just put this functionality into 0.5, but remember, Hudson is limited to 200 areas, and Goldbase is limited to 500 areas(and now, I leave *6* files open if you are using Hudson or Goldbase areas(if you use both at the same time, *12* files opened), the last pcusenet.txt that I got was like 1,400 areas.. Does anyone know if the XSH filebone area is on PC, if not, what the process of getting it on is? So then, the people in here, that complain about not being able to freq XSH properly, can get 0.5 when its hatched out?(that is, whenever I get those blasted docs..if I don't get the docs by wendsday, I'll have 0.5 hatched out anyway, these constant little updates I'm doing to 0.5 is making it into a monster release) ; 0.5 Released 00-00-94 : Freed up a _lot_ of memory by not duplicating ; addresses in memory. Now does intransit/forwarding ; of netmail. Now dump bad messages into bad ; packets. added BADMAILDIR. Optimized some of the ; graphics/routines to shrink the rapidly escalating ; exe size. Do better checking for no organizations ; on 2.2 packets. Added TONAME. Broke XIF 0.1(at ; David's request, of course). Now support QWK ; import simular to RFC-822 import, are we PC ; friendly yet? :) added QWKDIR. added ; QWKNOTSCANNED. Now do Binkley look-alike style ; logging, to be compatible with log packing ; utilities. added NO_BADMAIL. added ROUTETYPE. ; added BEEP whenever a bad FTN date field comes in. ; Added type 2.3 packets. Fixed JAM problem with ; export and exiting when no msgs present. More ; logging on errors. Got rid of squish API for ; squish/*.MSG areas. GREATLY sped up Hudson/ ; Goldbase by keeping all the rest of the areas ; open. Now scan downlinks for passwords on ; netmail. INTERNETNOTSCANNED and QWKNOTSCANNED ; now work with Hudson and Goldbase. Also a host ; of minor fixes in all areas of the code. --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 430 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/08/94 6:48p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dean! DL|Well, thats a disappointment. I've used SORTPKT and PSRT both. |There is NO comparison in performance. I checked the docs that |came with PSRT, and they specifically state that PSRT will work |under DOS, DV, and Windows. There's even another version of PSRT |that will work under OS/2. |There are a few tricks to try in the DOS4GW docs. You might |look through them for some ideas. I'll give it another shot. I may have set something up incorrectly. Don't know what but it's always possible. DL|I also rechecked the docs for SORTPKT....It will only work on |your own packets that are in the PRETOSS subdirectory. And you |are using it exactly as the docs specify. The only apparent way |to use SORTPKT is to toss packets to yourself, sort the packets, and toss |again into your message base. I'm not too pleased with SORTPKT anyway. I keep getting Runtime errors when it's running (although there are none from WM TOSS SCAN NETMAIL or from WM PRETOSS running afterward). However, when this happens, it kinda slows down the tossing procedure. DL|If it hasn't been mentioned already, check your DataBase lock |count in WMCONFIG. Its on the Miscellaneous screen. Should be |at 30 for a reasonably fast machine. Hit the F1 key when you are |there and the help screen will explain it better than I ever |could. Set for 30 (498/33). DL|Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, |WM4 may be sometime off. I certainly hope it is a priority. From what I've seen from Derrick and Joe, they indicate that it is. Thanks again, .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I have bursts of being a lady; it doesn't last. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 431 To: DALE WOOD Date: 04/08/94 6:51p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, Dale! DW|Hmmm. I taught college for a couple of years only to find out most of my |students hadn't really gotten out of grammar school yet. Think I'll stay |in front of my machine. At least it doesn't lose homework, flunk finals, |or make excuses why it doesn't come to class expecting me to believe it. You have obviously been teaching *my* students! <g> I didn't think I could talk you into it, but wasn't it worth a shot? <g> .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * I married beneath me -- all women do. --- WM v3.10/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 432 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/04/94 10:46p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > CS> Hi All. I would like more information about Planet Connect. Where/How > CS> can I get it? > CS> > Either call our office at 615-623-8300 and > request the info pack > or leave your info (address for shipping and > the like), here and > we will send it to you. > Thanks for the inquire... > ... Planet Systems / Skylink (615) 623-8300 I saw a previous message from you saying that on 1:3615/50 there's a file called PCINFO.TXT. I'll try to FREQ that file. If I can't, I'll post my address. Thanks for the reply... Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 433 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 04/04/94 10:47p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi - I hate to do this, but can someone please reply > to this to confirm my > outbounds. Thanks. > ┌──────────────┬───────── > ────────────────────────────────────────┐ > │ John Kaufman │ Fidonet: 1:104/675 > │""""│ │ > │ OFFWoRLD BBS │ Internet: > john.kaufman@f675.n104.z1.fidonet.org │ > │ 303-343-6978 │ ITCnet: 85:824/116 [( Oo > )] │ > └──────────────┴─────────────────────────────- > oOO──(__)──OOo─────┘ > --- GEcho/Synchronet > * Origin: OFFWoRLD (303)343·0691/0693/6978 (1:104/ > 675) Received OK down here... Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARLOS SALAS Number: 434 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/04/94 11:30p Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I Freq'ed the file PCINFO.TXT from 1:3615/50. Thanks. Carlos csalas@holonet.net --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Fusion Mail System - San Juan, PR (1:367/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 435 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/10/94 10:07a Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> As you stated we are a business. We have other things going on that BG> take priority over getting a net onboard, but if you want them going BG> over in the unsecure mode then let me know and I will do it. Would it be this easy to get CircuitNet on the bird...if ILINK has a problem with it, we don't and will send our packets without griping.. Emmett --- MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#19) * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-3097 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE OLIVER Number: 436 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 04/11/94 9:21a Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Call Planet Connect voice at (615) 623-4694 to order equipment for a hookup. --- FastEcho 1.21 * Origin: Just Another Day In BBS Land. (1:2300/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 437 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/11/94 1:05p Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB} DL|Hopefully so. But given the number of projects on OCR's stove, MB} |WM4 may be sometime off. MB} I certainly hope it is a priority. From what I've seen from Derrick MB} and Joe, they indicate that it is. Oh, it has become a priority as of late. Seems that WildCat version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. OCR has to rewrite all their mail utils to accomodate the new structure, and they HAVE to be ready when WC4 is released. Wildcat indicates a 2-6 month Beta test time frame. I suspect there will be some enhancements to WildMail 4 (read upgrade fee). I caught one message about increased speed from Derek, but nothing more. Dean --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 438 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/11/94 7:46p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Guertin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: CG> Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 08 Apr 94 13:09:40: TH> > There are over 5,000 Amiga-run BBSs in the current FidoNet TH> NODELIST... TH> WHAT? Your Nodelist must be very different than the one everyone GS> Hmmmm so since you cant tell from the nodelist (obviously) how is it GS> that -you- know? CG> I don't _know_ as such, I have just heard this from a guy CG> who keeps a world-wide Amiga BBS list and has been compiling CG> these stats for a while. CG> That's only a 1/5 of the nodes in the nodelist, so why do CG> you guys find it so hard to believe? There are over 5 CG> million Amigas in use worldwide. Ummmmm better re-read what I said......I didnt say I found it hard to believe......I simply asked you a question. CG> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get CG> when other platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. CG> It must be some kind of "pre-emptive multitasking envy" CG> thing. Ummmmmm how does my asking you how you got this information make me a 'dyed in the wool' DOSer? And you call me defensive! CG> I use several platforms on a regular basis, including IBMs. CG> It's a big world out there guys... I simply asked you how you know this information......and you call me defensive? ROFL! Just so you know.....I run several OS's also and support 3 of them as part of my business...... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com ... A stiff neck usually supports an empty head. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -=[ROUTE 66 BBS]=- 5.8 Gigs of Fun (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY WRIGHT Number: 439 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/11/94 2:20p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 09 22:27 94, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 wrote: JL> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a JL> seemless merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better JL> that Raid/WCFF! Really? What is it? Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The TEJAS Saloon * (214) 724-0318 * 14.4k v.32b (1:124/1019) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY WRIGHT Number: 440 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/11/94 2:25p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 10 12:00 94, Jason Baginski of 1:170/906@FidoNet wrote: JB> Does anyone know if the XSH filebone area is on PC, if not, JB> what the process of getting it on is? So then, the people JB> in here, that complain about not being able to freq XSH JB> properly, can get 0.5 when its hatched out?(that is, Jason, Didn't see it anywhere in the list but contact John Souvestre @ 1:396/1. He can tell you the proper procedure to get the file out onto the filebone. Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: The TEJAS Saloon * (214) 724-0318 * 14.4k v.32b (1:124/1019) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 441 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/11/94 7:39a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've used the Pcareas, I guess it's an improvement on that. -> Great! Thanks Chuck! Well, it'll help with those .msg that get thrown in the BAD area, as well as let you know an area was removed from the FIDONET.* files. Been helpful here. --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY HERBERT Number: 442 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/10/94 6:57p Subj: My system Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Re our telephone conversations of last week. Fido Files missing 10 to 20 blocks of info. Files doubling up on each other. etc. Tests done this weekend with several IBM and compatable systems have resulted in these findings. No other applications running. IBM 386 SX20 - Intermitantly files would over ride the preceeding file. File header would come on screen and stop for approximately 3 seconds. Block shows 1 then jumps to 10. No apparent delay between file trail and next head. Programs used were PTC1128, 1.20 and 1.21 RESULT : Corrupt file, missing 10 to 20 k of info. Some small files (TICS) 3 to 5 blocks would be collected but UPLD.LST would hang and double up with following file. IBM COMPATABLE 386 DX33 - same as above, same results. IBM PS/2 486 DX33 - same as above, same results. IBM PS/2 486 DX50 - same as above, same results. Conclusion : This test was done during feeds of Sat. 9 Apr.94 and Sun. 10 Apr.94. When files appeared to have little or no delay between them, the programs would pick the leader up ok and do not double up on the preveious file. When there was no apparent delay between files but a 3 sec. delay after header was picked up, it would be missing info and the following file usually doubled up on it. Some Fido files appeared to have no delay and they were collected and saved to disk with no defects. Each computer tested had the PC programs installed on clean reformated drives. There were no other files but these on the systems. With this in mind I point out this very interesting quandery. Several Fido files when unzipped with PKUnzip 204g, revealed the files contained newsgrp messages. At no time were there any Newsgrp files downloaded during this test, yet they managed to get into the files. I don't know what was going on with the above newsgrp stuff but it seems there may be a timing problem after the header or leader is received. I hope this sheds some light on the problem Boyd. Barry __ __///Barry Herbert,FidoNet InterNet MicroSoft EchoNet Rime UseNet \XX/Intelec AmigaNet NaNet RoseNet PlanetEarth POWERED by SATELLITE --- EXCELSIOR! BBS v1.20; XMAIL! v1.71 * Origin: THE POWER HOUSE BBS Mara BC CND (604)838-7446 (1:353/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 443 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 04/11/94 3:24p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dexter! In a message to Joe Lyda <04/11/94> Dexter Wright wrote: DW> -> JL> -> John yesterday a file came in the pcutils area called DW> -> JL> -> MAKEWCFF.ZIP which automates Wcff very nicely, also one called DW> -> JL> -> TICMOVE.ZIP simply moves .tic's and companion files to be DW> -> JL> -> processed only if the pair are in the same directory to be mov DW> -> If the batch file is a problem and allfix makes a files.bbs in DW> -> the directories it tosses to then you ought to try Chuck Warren's DW> -> WCTICK program that will write the batch file to process all them DW> -> in about 20 seconds. DW> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF DW> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- DW> links get their tic files, they complain about that. DW> Dexter Not at the moment, I don't think there is a way, sure would be nice to have all the description in there. I have to do an event and scan the files and hope the file_id.diz is present to fix it on my system. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 444 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 10:21p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to All <04/10/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you all for BG> support. These areas will always be in with the regular mail bundles so t BG> you can still drop them off to this system for processing. BG> BG> BG> ....Boyd Thanks Boyd! Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Profanity, the language computerists know. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE DELAHAYE Number: 445 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/11/94 5:29p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when other -> platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be some kind of -> "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. I have found the oposite to be true. Especially from Amiga users <g> Joe --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: Lion's Den BBS * Trenton, On. Canada (613)392-8294 (1:249/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 446 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 6:09p Subj: Re: Address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr1118:09, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 writes: BG> Planet Systems Inc. BG> 1065 Cosby Hwy. BG> Newport Tn. 37821 BG> BG> 615-623-8300 Thanks Boyd - I'll send along the info. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 447 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 10:37p Subj: Re: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Boyd Goodin to All *** BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you BG> all for your support. These areas will always be in with the BG> regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this BG> system for processing. BG> BG> BG> ....Boyd Thank you. I didn't respond to you earlier, as I thought there was enough mud slinging going on, but I for one appreciate the added echos, and the oportunity to allow my downlinks these echos that normally wouldn't be available to them. Thanks again, and feel free to add any others. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 448 To: DEXTER WRIGHT Date: 04/11/94 11:43a Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF -> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- -> links get their tic files, they complain about that. Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON KLANK Number: 449 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 04/11/94 7:24a Subj: Tossing your .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty! 07 Apr 94 09:17, Patty Pickett wrote to Jason Klank: > Jason Klank wrote in a message to Dave Sloan: JK>> Plenty of others have FREQed XSH without any problems, so JK>> maybe it's your end. > It must also be on my end as I received a response file indicating that > the file was missing or I'd used an invalid password, Jason. It was....You tried during ZMH...At that time, ZMH here in the east coast was from 4-5AM....Thanks!: + 24 Mar 04:26:23 BINK begin, BinkleyTerm-OS/2 Ver. 2.59 -uSoft8.0 # 24 Mar 04:37:02 BINK Ring # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Protocol: Lap-M # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Compression: V.42Bis # 24 Mar 04:37:15 BINK Connect 14400/Arq * 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK My Secret Garden BBS - Node 1 (1:380/5@fidonet.org) : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Aka: 1:380/0@fidonet.org 1:380/10@fidonet.org 11:400/0@fidonet.org : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK 11:400/401@fidonet.org 94:3180/0@fidonet.org 94:3180/1@fidonet.org * 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Remote Uses InterMail 2.26 : 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK SysOp: Patty Pickett from Shreveport LA 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Phone: 1-318-865-4503 24 Mar 04:37:20 BINK Flags: CM,HST,XX,V32b,V42b 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0005.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c000a.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900191.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Created flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0001.BSY : 24 Mar 04:37:21 BINK Session method: ZedZap + 24 Mar 04:37:22 BINK Nothing to send to 94:3180/1@fidonet.org 24 Mar 04:37:28 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0005.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Outbound\017c000a.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\01900191.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0000.BSY 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK Deleted flagfile F:\Bbs\Bink1\0c6c0001.BSY * 24 Mar 04:37:29 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 24 Mar 04:37:37 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 * 24 Mar 04:37:37 BINK Seconds: 25 Tariff: 0 Fee: 0 System: 1:380/5@fidonet.org Jason --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: The Fantasy Source BBS! 5.1 Gig! 28.8K V.FC! 803-322-0903 (1:3639/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB MCKEE Number: 450 To: JERRY NOLTE Date: 04/04/94 10:51a Subj: BAG Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Nolte wrote in a message to All: JN> Can anyone tell me of a fairly simple way to get the USENET JN> messages into RA (JAM Style). Or better yet a door that may JN> allow users to view them and post via Intermail gateway if JN> that is possible???? I prefer to run my messages in native Format.. I use Waffle for all my Usenet Processing. Squish/Max for Fido. VBBS for everything else.. Tootles.... Rob --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Flyer, Moraga, CA 2in. from 125/233 (1:125/411) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 451 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 04/09/94 1:53p Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to John Hrusovszky: GC> But even from a simplistic view, if a moderator contacts you GC> to sever a feed and you comply, he will never even GC> communicate with PC. That is one of the reasons why it is Tell Dan Buda that... GC> very important for PC Sites redistributing echomail to keep GC> their NEC informed of their downlinks. Normally a feed cut Our "NEC" here has nothing to do with the PC feed whatsoever, and we sorta like it that way. GC> request will be sent to the NEC (after hopefully the GC> offending sysop has first been contacted). If information GC> about who is feeding whom is not at the NEC's finger tips, Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the NEC was the moderator of the echo. GC> Whereas a properly informed NEC would simply contact the PC GC> feed and let him/her know the situ; problem solved, no PC GC> involvement. Again, it comes down to a bit of cooperation. The best way to start is for the moderator to look at where the message in question originated at. Then check the nodelist to see if it's from the sysop themselves. If not, start directly there. If so, check the path and go up one notch. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 452 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/12/94 12:54p Subj: Re: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that DL>WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. Know if they are going to release the specs? --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES NERLINGER Number: 453 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/12/94 1:23p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to BG> thank you all for your support. These areas will always BG> be in with the regular mail bundles so that you can BG> still drop them off to this system for processing. I think I've missed this topic...something new up with the K12? --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Access Information Services --> FIDONet (1:108/155) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE OLIVER Number: 454 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/12/94 9:57p Subj: Re: XSH config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No XSH is on the bone. --- FastEcho 1.21 * Origin: Just Another Day In BBS Land. (1:2300/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 455 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/10/94 5:20p Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a seemless me -> with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better that Raid/WCFF! Ok Preraid is still here if you need it. Its also out on the Nets. WC --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 456 To: GARY WRIGHT Date: 04/13/94 10:30a Subj: Fix For Wcff and raid Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> On Apr 09 22:27 94, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 wrote: -> -> JL> Thanks Walt, but I already found something that makes a -> JL> seemless merge with Allfix and Wildcat! 10 times better -> JL> that Raid/WCFF! -> Really? What is it? -> Gary It's Preraid. It allows you to have as many Wcff.cfg files as you need to work under raid. People can turn on and off file areas in more than 1 .cfg file for those huge .cfg files. You can freq it here at 28.8 magic file name preraid. Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 457 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/13/94 11:45p Subj: Wildcat 4 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB} DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that JB} DL>WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. JB} Know if they are going to release the specs? I would assume they will. Lot of 3rd party software will need to be upgraded. All I know is they are getting away from the old 3 (or 4) database files per conference. The new style is a one file per conference flat file structure. You can contact them at their BBS -- 805-873-2400 They have a bulletin describing the features to come in WC4. Dal * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM COWAN Number: 458 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 04/14/94 9:49p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> @SUBJECT:Secure Mail Packets... why? -> What a major annoyance to those of us dealing with the various networ -> have to always deal with these secure mail networks. You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail as my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all. It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? --- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 04-29-94 * Origin: The Silver Thorn 417-581-4164 (1:284/73) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 459 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 04/14/94 12:00a Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Greg Shaffer wrote on 11 Apr 94 19:46:52: GS> I simply asked you how you know this information......and you call GS> me defensive? ROFL! Just so you know.....I run several OS's also and GS> support 3 of them as part of my business...... Sorry bud, I musta been a little jumpy the day of the previous post! Appologies. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 460 To: JOE DELAHAYE Date: 04/14/94 5:29p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Joe Delahaye wrote on 11 Apr 94 17:29:00: JD> -> It amazes me how defensive you "dyed-in-the-wool" DOSers get when JD> other JD> -> platforms claim to even exist on the same planet. It must be JD> some kind of JD> -> "pre-emptive multitasking envy" thing. JD> I have found the oposite to be true. Especially from Amiga users JD> <g> Yah, I kinda get outta hand with my preaching sometimes. <BG> Comes from working with too many DOS/Windows users at work. Worst part is that I am a Programmer/Analyst and have to support them... If people just GOTTA run Intel-boxes, I wish they'd at least change to OS/2, it'd make my professional life much easier. That or keep the apps on our AS/400, which is much nicer to work with than any Micro. (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do with a version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 461 To: JIM COWAN Date: 04/15/94 3:27p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail a -> my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all -> It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the -> password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? I run Wildcat and use Gomail to toss into the BBS also. I also run with session passwords and in secure mode. Gomail doesn't have any problems tossing the passworded PKTs at this end. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 462 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 04/15/94 12:55p Subj: dupe loops! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The DBRIDGE dupe problem.... ^aPATH: .....105/50 200 230 220 340 30 appears to be an "invisible" 4D point, pointing off of 1:105/230 and off of 1:105/220. The problem should be fixed by now. Actually, the point is becoming a node, either in this week's nodediff or next week's nodediff. Sorry. --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAT CURRY Number: 463 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 04/15/94 12:51a Subj: PCUSENet BAGS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EJ> Bad, expensive, joke :((( EJ> Cheers, Erv I like the fact that someone can give a triple frownie and still give a cheers! :) Or perhaps the macro is stuck? <grin> PC --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Pat's Shop BBS * (706) 882-0999 (1:3656/111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 464 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/14/94 9:55a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 12-Apr-94, Boyd Goodin writes to All in PLANET_CONNECT... > Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' > Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' > Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES are in fidonet.na. | fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... | ------------------------------------------ | BIBLE International Bible Conference | HOBBIES All Hobbies International --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Jasmine's Echo Lounge & Brew Pub (1:105/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 465 To: JIM COWAN Date: 04/15/94 3:22p Subj: Secure Mail Packets... Wh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to John Lundell <04/14/94> Jim Cowan wrote: JC> -> @SUBJECT:Secure Mail Packets... why? JC> -> What a major annoyance to those of us dealing with the various networ JC> -> have to always deal with these secure mail networks. JC> You should have my problem John. I run a Wildcat BBS and use Gomail as JC> my mail tosser....it doesn't handle password protected packets at all. JC> It's author suggests you simply contact your hub and request the JC> password protection be turned off......easier said than done eh?? I run Gomail/WC39 Wildcat and what I do is put the password in my mailer (FD202 NC) and what ever address requirs a password then I add it in FD (Events/Security area) and have had the problem resolved by password protecting the archive rather than the pkts. Might work for you. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * ... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 466 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 04/15/94 9:34a Subj: Need a Guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> DW> Even in canabalistic societies they pay more per -> DW> pound for womens brains than mens.<g> -> -> Hmmmmmm Intreresting. Is that because they are smaller or harder to f It's because they haven't been used! -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN DEZOTELL Number: 467 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/16/94 1:59p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>-> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF >-> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- >-> links get their tic files, they complain about that. JL> Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! I agree with getting rid of WCFF, what a pain in the butt! Did I miss something that Allfix is being used with Wildcat? ......thanks ■ QMPro 1.52 ■ WILDCAT! BBS ■ QmodemPro ■ Off-Line Xpress: Perfection! --- WM v3.10/91-0239 * Origin: Nite-Air BBS(315) 339-8831 Wildcat! (1:2609/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE DELAHAYE Number: 468 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/16/94 9:30a Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> If people just GOTTA run Intel-boxes, I wish they'd at least change to OS/2, -> it'd make my professional life much easier. That or keep the apps on our -> AS/400, which is much nicer to work with than any Micro. If CBM doesn't get Chapter 11 protection then you may not have a platform to work on much longer, or at least not have any more support for it. -> (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do with a -> version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) You could always write one for PC <g>, and sell it to them <grin> Joe --- QScan v1.064b * Origin: Lion's Den * Trenton, On CDN (613)392-8294 (1:249/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 469 To: ALL Date: 04/17/94 12:18p Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DWYN MANUEL Number: 470 To: JOE HESSE Date: 04/15/94 10:17p Subj: messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey guy.... I haven't seen any messages from you on this board! I don't know where or to whom you sent that last one to, but I didn't recieve it! BTW....I am waiting for a quote on a 345meg..if it is reasonable I will sell ya mine for $130, if you want it. Later! --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 471 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 04/17/94 5:11p Subj: Re: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Lisa Gronke wrote on 14 Apr 94 09:55:28: LG> You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES LG> are in fidonet.na. LG> | fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... LG> | ------------------------------------------ LG> | BIBLE International Bible Conference LG> | HOBBIES All Hobbies International Hey, I have't gotten any traffic in a month in HOBBIES... --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 472 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 2:59p Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: big files! BY: Boyd Goodin on Sun Apr 17 1994 12:18 pm > > Hello All! > > There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got t > then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not going ov > the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. > > > ...Boyd > > --- DB 1.58/004770 > * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) What is in that file??? Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! Rio Rancho, NM 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 473 To: KEN DEZOTELL Date: 04/18/94 6:37p Subj: Re: Tic Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>-> Do you know of anyway to get around the way WCFF -> >-> truncates the description line at 60chrs? When my down- -> >-> links get their tic files, they complain about that. -> -> JL> Yes, get rid of WCFF and go to Allfix.....works great! -> -> I agree with getting rid of WCFF, what a pain in the butt! Did I miss -> something that Allfix is being used with Wildcat? ......thanks Yep! Works great here! You use it with Wcfile which takes care of the importation into Wildcat. Another necessity is Chuck Warren's WCTICK10.ZIP, it writes the batch file for use with Wcfile. If you have more than a few file areas, you'll need it. You can freq it here if you don't have it, also Allfix... AFIX420E.ZIP. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 474 To: JOE DELAHAYE Date: 04/18/94 1:22p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Joe Delahaye wrote on 16 Apr 94 09:30:00: JD> -> (I think we're getting off-topic though. This has little to do JD> with a JD> -> version of the Planet Connect software for the Amiga! ;) JD> You could always write one for PC <g>, and sell it to them <grin> That's been tried. John Preston (a competant Amiga developer) asked for permission to PORT the software for FREE. and got NO for an answer. That's how interested they are. (even if C= destroys itself [and deservedly for their marketing] the Amiga makes FAR too much money in Europe, and is far too popular in the Video world [watch Babylon 5 and SeaQuest DSV] to just go away. Sombody will buy up the technology. [latest rumor is phillips, cause they want the CD32]) The Amiga started out NOT owned by Commodore, and may end up that way again. --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 475 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 7:58p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never got >them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not >going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. >...Boyd Boyd, Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 476 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 04/17/94 9:12a Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LG>12-Apr-94, Boyd Goodin writes to All in PLANET_CONNECT... LG>> Address 136/2 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' >> Address 2230/100 not authorized to create area 'HOBBIES' >> Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'BIBLE' LG>You might want to check with John Souvestre. Both BIBLE and HOBBIES are in >fidonet.na. LG>| fidonet.na 29780 03 Apr 94 00:34 A... >| ------------------------------------------ >| BIBLE International Bible Conference >| HOBBIES All Hobbies International thank you...i was beginning to wonder. <G> --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 477 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 2:42a Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Hello All! -> -> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you neve -> then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP file is not g -> the sat since it is over 2 megs and you can get it from here. Everytime I have to freq something, the cps rate hovers around 570cps with a 14400 connect. I had to grab 2 mail bundles today and it took 26 mins for 800k. 2 megs?....I couldn't aford it. I assume you must receive better than that? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 478 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 04/16/94 11:33a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Jim Watson: > Our "NEC" here has nothing to do with the PC feed whatsoever, > and we sorta like it that way. GC> Well partly and partly not. The NEC has responsibility for GC> the management of topology and echomail. If you do something GC> to negatively impact that, he has the right to act, and no Sorry, but no he doesn't. If I was feeding via the "standard net topology", maybe. But I and about 1/3 of this net don't feed from there just because they -have- an NEC. Now please show us just where an NEC gets -any- rights whatsoever... GC> matter how good a kissin cousins you are with whoever. The GC> NEC has nothing to do with where people get their feeds, GC> something which I have long fought to preserve. But the NEC GC> still has to do his/her job, which means being informed of GC> YOUR topology and managing that topology in the "common" GC> interest. Our topology is none of -their- business. That's like saying my topology is part of -your- business. If we were feeding via their chain, then yes. But since we are not, we have no obligation to keep them informed of -anything-. GC> For a guy who is all gung ho for policy powers in your own GC> realm you seem unwilling even to provide the NECs simple GC> informative powers in theirs. Heck, that's one area even GC> Adrian Walker and I could agree on, so now I must be one of GC> the control freaks! Sorry, I don't see "NEC" in any policy, anywhere. I don't pull mail via this mysterious entity. Since they aren't defined, and have no authority via the only ratified policy that we have, why should I or anyone else under similar circumstances give them "informative powers"? What I'm doing is none of their business... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 479 To: ANYONE Date: 04/18/94 9:28p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their two networked machines setup. --- FastEcho v1.40 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 480 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/19/94 7:25p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? > Dave P. All i know is that it is an OS2 file. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 481 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 9:32p Subj: FILE_ID.DIZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! Does anyone out here have or know of a utility that will scan into and archive looking for a File_ID.Diz and if it finds one will use this description to replace the one user/tic provided in the Files.BBS? If you have such a util could you leave me the name so I can FReq it. Thanks in advance... Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/177) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS GUERTIN Number: 482 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 5:16p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check out what Boyd Goodin wrote on 17 Apr 94 12:18:40: BG> Hello All! BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs BG> and you can get it from here. Hmmm. It costs to call long distance to get it. Why is it not being sent out over the sat? --- DLG Pro v1.0/PDQMail v2.53 * Origin: Fat Agnus - A Quality System, Planet Connected (1:225/330) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE POUNDS Number: 483 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 6:43a Subj: nice day Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Way A nice day In Biloxi today Hope this on is just as nice --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: You have entered the Demon's Realm (1:3604/53) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BROWN Number: 484 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 5:39p Subj: Fido Packet errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets. I have checked the same packets that were received at different times, and they are all bad. This is a big problem that needs to be fixed. I have been getting 2-3 bad packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost. Thanks! --- CNet/3 * Origin: Terminal Paradise BBS * Adults Only * 717-292-0497 * (1:270/611) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JUKER Number: 485 To: ALL Date: 04/19/94 5:26p Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite? Larry --- GoldED/2+/LoraBBS/2 v2.35+ * Origin: Moonlight Delight - Clarion & OS/2 (509)664-0692 (1:344/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 486 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/20/94 11:08a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a > response.....arrrggg! Got it here! ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 487 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 8:03p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Charles! Tuesday April 19 1994 17:30, Charles Ring wrote to Boyd Goodin: CR> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. CR> Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? CR> CR> -+- CR> + Origin: W3NU Online Sharon, PA 412 346-5535 (1:2601/100) As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band Satellite feed. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a7 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 488 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 04/20/94 10:08p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their -> two networked machines setup. Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with a cable connecting all of them together. We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards. The main servers are dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are work stations and/or work station/servers. The Planet Connect machine is a dedicated machine with a 40meg hard-drive. One of the other machines pulls the info from the PC hard-drive across the network every 2 hours to the work directory on one of the main servers. What else did you want to know? --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 489 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 10:12p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt fil -> they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? Corrupted here, too. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 490 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/20/94 10:06p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Boyd, >> Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? >> Dave P. > All i know is that it is an OS2 file. >...Boyd Boyd, Thanks... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 491 To: CHARLES RING Date: 04/20/94 2:17p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 19 17:30>, Charles Ring of 1:2601/100@fidonet writes: CR> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. CR> Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? Same here, Charles. TICK indicated the CRCs of those files did not match the CRC in the accompanying *.TIC file and renamed the *.TIC file to TK*.BAD. A manual attempt to unarchive those files resulted in LHZ indicating the files were grunged. Those were not the only files received in that condition on Monday, April 18th. TICK indicated the CRCs did not match on several other files received here on Apr 18, and again, manual unarchiving attempts on those files indicated all were grunged. Every one of those files that were bad were added to the UPLD.LST after the first transmission cycle on the satellite. PC must have had a bad day that day - practically no mail files in the first transmission cycle, no RIME traffic, practically no files either, plus no PCUSENET files at all in the first transmission cycle. The satellite evidently was reloaded after the first transmission cycle was over, and much was added to the UPLD.LST for the second and subsequent transmission cycles. Apr 18th was also the day 1:3615/50 was answering incoming calls as 999:999/999.999, and even though a passworded mail session was indicated in my mailer log, no mail session ensued. Guess Apr 18th was a BAD DAY for PC and 1:3615/50! :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 492 To: LARRY JUKER Date: 04/20/94 2:33p Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite? -> Yes. Check the filebone.na file, it shows which FDN's are on the satelite. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 493 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/20/94 4:21p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs BG> and you can get it from here. CG> Hmmm. It costs to call long distance to get it. Why is it not being CG> sent out over the sat? I missed it too Chris, if you are interested the .tic file arrived here. AREA IBMOS2FX FILE CTM0005.ZIP Desc C Set ++ C Set ++ Libraries Version 2.1 I would like to see it sent over sat again also. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 494 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/20/94 4:23p Subj: Weather Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, As of 4:30pm 4-20 the weather stuff is 43 hours old! Whats up?? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 495 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 10:59p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a response.....arrrggg! --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 496 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 11:02p Subj: Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Being new to this, is there a procedure in getting a file put up to be recieved from Planet Connect. Like file requesting......? --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 497 To: JIM WATSON Date: 04/19/94 8:24a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither > would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the > NEC was the moderator of the echo. It is your NEC's business if a dupe loop is formed that affects the backbone. Many times a moderator (or others) will contact an NEC to investigate a dupe loop that is plagueing an echo. The NEC has the right to request your topology for any backbone echo in order to try to eliminate the dupe loop even if you pick up your mail from outside of your net. Sysops, NEC's, REC's and RHUBS must work together to eliminate dupe loops. If you were to deny a request for your topology, chances are your feed would be cut if you were the source of the problem and would not work with the *EC's to resolve it. I'm sure that P.C. would cut a feed at the request of an REC or higher. Chances are that the REC would be acting upon the recommendation of the NEC of a node within their net that is causing a problem. Ed --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 498 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/18/94 11:02p Subj: changing data feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You have asked us for suggestions of how to deliver the data. Perhaps you could arm us with some knowledge. Let us know what system you use to keep the data and how you deliver it to the satelite transmit er. What restrictions have you as to moving files into and out of the delivery queue. I would also suggest that you trim down your uplink by eliminating those files that have been sent many times already and don't change for months. On those day's that have light traffic you could add some of your in house files and there by evening out the delivery. --- * OLX 1.52 * Trigger screams "Help! I've fallen and I can't Giddy-up! --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLES RING Number: 499 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/19/94 5:30p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt files. Did they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? --- * Origin: W3NU Online Sharon, PA 412 346-5535 (1:2601/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 500 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 04/21/94 8:20a Subj: Newbie PC questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <Apr 20 02:32>, Randy Edwards (1:325/806) writes: RE>> I just got my PC dish up and going (yippee!) and am currently RE>>swimming in mail and files and am trying to sort things out. Not RE>>surprisingly, I've got a few 'newbie' questions to toss out at folks: I just got my first data stream yesterday, and OhMiGawd! I've got dataflying all over the place. I had to stack a whole bunch of it over in the corner until I can get it straightened out. I've got some wierd questions, also. What software tosses the Usenet news groups? And, can we redistribute the news groups? Are the weather maps supposed to be current? The ones I saw seem to be 2 days old. And, can we redistribute the weather stuff? ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 501 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/20/94 3:34p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ed! In a message to Boyd Goodin <04/19/94> Ed Fortin wrote: EF> Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a EF> response.....arrrggg! Must have worked cause I got it here in Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Tagteam: A bunch of people thinking up taglines --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 502 To: ALL Date: 04/21/94 9:33p Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat? I unfortunately missed it. So much for my memory... (Glad my computers memory is better. <g>) Anyway, I'd like to know how it was. If it was good, I'll try harder to catch it the next time. Keith --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 503 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/21/94 11:21p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with MB> a cable connecting all of them together. MB> We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards. The main MB> servers are dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are MB> work stations and/or work station/servers. Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated server as compared to server/workstations? --jah ... HangOver: The Wrath of Grapes. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIMMY BONDS Number: 504 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/21/94 4:17p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: Ed Fortin to Boyd Goodin on Tue Apr 19 1994 22:59:00 > Just checking to see if the messages are getting through....how'bout a Made it to Alabama, so it must work <G>.. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Southern Breeze BBS: The Heart of Dixie 205-739-3418 (1:3607/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 505 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/21/94 3:32p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello MARTIN! Wednesday April 20 1994 22:12, MARTIN BELCKE wrote to CHARLES RING: MB> ->> The April el*.lzh came through yesterday, all of them 16k corrupt fil ->> they go over the sat that way, or is there a problem here? MB> MB> Corrupted here, too. MB> MB> --Martin-- All the April EL*.LZH must have been Corrupt, because They got Bit-Bucketed, before my TIC processor ever saw them..? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a7 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CRAIN Number: 506 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 04/21/94 1:13p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 20, 1994, at 20:03, George Vandervort of 1:382/8 wrote: GV> As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT GV> None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band GV> Satellite feed. i got them here, a few miles north and east of you like this; _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _ O \ ELDAT404.LZH 16588 Recv: Mon 04-18-94 13:38:40 ELIST404.LZH 16588 Recv: Mon 04-18-94 13:38:40 ELKEY404.LZH 16588 Recv: Mon 04-18-94 13:38:40 ELRUL404.LZH 16588 Recv: Mon 04-18-94 13:38:40 _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _ O \ As you can see, you didn't miss anything since they were all corrupt! Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Rendezvous!! 28800/V.FC Bastrop, Tx [512-303-1324] (1:382/92) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE HANNAH Number: 507 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 04/21/94 8:48p Subj: Re: FILE_ID.DIZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Don Waybright to All <=- DW> Does anyone out here have or know of a utility that will scan into and DW> archive looking for a File_ID.Diz and if it finds one will use this DW> description to replace the one user/tic provided in the Files.BBS? DW> If you have such a util could you leave me the name so I can FReq it. Allfix has this ability, but only for incoming tics. It can also be configured to leave the existing description. Freq AFIX420E.ARJ from my origin 24 hrs. AMU has the ability to import file_id.diz for uploaded files into the RA filebase. You may be able to use it to create files.bbs and import the files.bbs into other BBS software. I don't have it online, but look for AMU101.*. ... "Let's win this one and go home." - George A. Custer --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Prophecy BBS [ITCNet NB Hub] (506)652-7292 (1:255/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE HANNAH Number: 508 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 04/21/94 8:48p Subj: Re: Newbie PC questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Randy Edwards to All <=- RE> Turning to utilities, does anyone have a "Tick killer" utility? RE> What I'm looking for is for some utility that would automagically RE> examine the Tick files in a subdir and would kill off certain specific RE> file-echos before I send the files through my null modem to the OS/2 RE> machine where they'll be processed. If I can zap the file-echos that RE> I don't need that'll speed up my transfers across the null modem RE> significantly. Does such a beast exist? How about processing the tics, then sending your outbound directory via null modem? ... CHASTITY: The most unnatural of sexual perversions. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Prophecy BBS [ITCNet NB Hub] (506)652-7292 (1:255/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 509 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 04/21/94 9:15a Subj: Services Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Jim Watson: > Who we feed echomail to is none of the "NEC's" business. Neither > would a request for a link cut from the NEC be honored, unless the > NEC was the moderator of the echo. EM> It is your NEC's business if a dupe loop is formed that EM> affects the backbone. Many times a moderator (or others) It is NOT the NEC's business, unless that loop is within the feed that the NEC manages. Such is not is the case here. EM> will contact an NEC to investigate a dupe loop that is EM> plagueing an echo. The NEC has the right to request your EM> topology for any backbone echo in order to try to eliminate EM> the dupe loop even if you pick up your mail from outside of EM> your net. An NEC has no "rights" whatsoever within Fidonet, as they are not a "ratified defined position". They can ask me, and if they are nice about it, I'll probably tell them. But several have already gotten the "Pound Salt" message when I was -told- "I must cut this person's feed". Seems I was "destroying the net's CRP". Sounds personal to me. EM> Sysops, NEC's, REC's and RHUBS must work together to EM> eliminate dupe loops. If you were to deny a request for your EM> topology, chances are your feed would be cut if you were the EM> source of the problem and would not work with the *EC's to EM> resolve it. If there was a legitimate technical problem, you betcha I would do whatever it takes to cure it. Currently there is only two types of such: 1) Non-conforming messages, in which case my system will stop them. And if it continues, I'll stop feeding them. This one has -never- happened. 2) A dupe loop. In which case the node feeding from here needs to cut the link to me, or cut the one to their other feed. If they can't seem to handle it, I'll cut it for 'em. This one has happened probably a half dozen times in the last 3 or 4 years. But the only way -my- uplink would get cut is if I'm causing technical problems for them. Being I'm not going to allow such a problem to continue unabated, I've not got anything to worry about. EM> I'm sure that P.C. would cut a feed at the request of an REC EM> or higher. Chances are that the REC would be acting upon the EM> recommendation of the NEC of a node within their net that is EM> causing a problem. For a recurring -technical- reason, yes, I would expect my feed cut. For any other reason, even bop-a-rootie only provides provisions for the -moderator- to cut a link. Seems you've not noticed that the *EC structure is basically worthless these days. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 510 To: ALL Date: 04/22/94 4:43a Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No @ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this. Heck I hope *I* see this. They tell me if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something wrong! (Strange system. All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.) ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 511 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/22/94 5:48a Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello MARTIN! Wednesday April 20 1994, MARTIN BELCKE writes to BOB SLOWINSKI: ->> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they have their ->> two networked machines setup. MB> Well, 5 are setup vertically and 6 are setup horizontally with a cable MB> connecting all of them together. MB> We use Lantastic 4.01 with AE-2 Ethernet cards. The main servers are MB> dedicated servers and the rest of the machines are work stations and/or MB> work station/servers. The Planet Connect machine is a dedicated machine MB> with a 40meg hard-drive. One of the other machines pulls the info from MB> the PC hard-drive across the network every 2 hours to the work directory MB> on one of the main servers. MB> What else did you want to know? MB> --Martin-- What kind operating systems on each machine? Russell * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 512 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/22/94 10:12a Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday April 21 1994, Keith Sippy writes to All: Hello Keith! KS> Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat? I KS> unfortunately missed it. So much for my memory... (Glad my computers KS> memory is better. <g>) Anyway, I'd like to know how it was. If it was KS> good, I'll try harder to catch it the next time. I couldnt find it..I had my parents looking for it on their satellite, another friend looking..never found it..I musta got the channels confused or sumthin..g3 8 wasn't it? Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON JOHNSON Number: 513 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/22/94 4:32a Subj: Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is there an information packet on what is required, and how one gets a network on Planet Connect? I've sent netmail, but no response. Don Johnson --- * Origin: Chivalry IS alive! Saturday Knights 303-420-8927 (1:104/531) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE POUNDS Number: 514 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/22/94 1:21p Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No It got here to biloxi MS --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: You have entered the Demon's Realm (1:3604/53) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE POUNDS Number: 515 To: JOHN LYON Date: 04/22/94 1:23p Subj: Re: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: You have entered the Demon's Realm (1:3604/53) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 516 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/22/94 3:13p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated serv -> as compared to server/workstations? Absolutely. The dedicated server has no other tasks to perform. The server/work-stations are my 2 mailer nodes. Only reason they are "servers" is so that the network can access the local drives on those 2 machines. Before I decided to use the local drives for network usage (mail packet inbound, etc), they were just work stations. The 2 main servers are strickly servers and have no other tasks to perform. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 517 To: GEORGE HANNAH Date: 04/22/94 6:50p Subj: Re: FILE_ID.DIZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message George Hannah to Don Waybright it was said: GH> AMU has the ability to import file_id.diz for uploaded GH> files into the RA filebase. You may be able to use it to GH> create files.bbs and import the files.bbs into other BBS GH> software. I don't have it online, but look for AMU101.*. Thanks for the help there George.... Will do. Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's 1st Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <Richmond,Va> <Multi-Node> <804-737-3932> (1:264/177) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SID BALCOM Number: 518 To: ANYONE Date: 04/22/94 9:52a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two different computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single user, it works great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated computer to bring in the satellite stuff. If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error free reception? ++ Sid ++ --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a6 (#2) * Origin: The Catalytic Star - Alexandria, VA 703-765-1751 (1:109/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN CAMPBELL Number: 519 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/21/94 11:49p Subj: Ilink Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, What is the current status of ILINK.... I would like to pick it up, but interested into what is going to be involved. I have seen some information that is in the personal directory, but that does not really give alot of information. Thanks John --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff276/b] * Origin: Sparkies Machine BBS (703) 266-4299 (1:2602/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 520 To: CHRIS GUERTIN Date: 04/11/94 8:01p Subj: AD-* File Echoes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! Sunday April 10 1994 19:51, Chris Guertin wrote to Brian Hess: CG> Check out what Brian Hess wrote on 06 Apr 94 17:47:00: BH>> Hello Chris! BH>> Sunday April 03 1994 15:27, Chris Guertin wrote to All: CG>> What are the AD-* file echoes? CG> <etc> CG> Thanx for the detailed reply Brian. I know how disappoint i was for so long.. when i could not find out which area was what my self... the one area main area i have been disappointed in Planet Connect has been the lack of orgainze (sp?) information as to what is going on... Thank you, Brian ... We never know whether we are victors or whether we are defeated. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 521 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/11/94 8:02p Subj: K-12freeway Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Sunday April 10 1994 23:58, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> To all that responded to this issue I would like to thank you BG> all for your support. These areas will always be in with the BG> regular mail bundles so that you can still drop them off to this BG> system for processing. THANKS!!!! there VERY popluar here... Thank you, Brian ... If little else, the brain is an educational toy. --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 522 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 04/21/94 8:11p Subj: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday April 20 1994, Dave Petrucci writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello Dave! >>> Boyd, >>> Just curious, what is the CTM0005.ZIP file all about? >>> Dave P. >> All i know is that it is an OS2 file. its a service update file for Cset/2 (IBM's OS.2 C & C++ comiler) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 523 To: LARRY JUKER Date: 04/21/94 8:13p Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday April 19 1994, Larry Juker writes to All: Hello Larry! LJ> Anyone know if ibmNET is on the satelite? just the file areas..You must be an ibmNET node to receive the message areas. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLES RING Number: 524 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 04/22/94 5:40p Subj: echolist files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! 20 Apr 94 20:03, George Vandervort wrote to Charles Ring: GV> As of April 20th.. 20:00 hours CDT GV> None of the April EL*.LZH files have come thru over the KU-Band Satellite GV> feed. Yesterday morning i received little but small files, all the larger ones trahed by errors. I found that my 3' KU dish needed to be re-aimed. Strange, since nothing on it was loose. It was off enough to make a big difference. Charles --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: W3NU Online Sharon, PA (412) 346-5535 (1:2601/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 525 To: ALL Date: 04/23/94 12:17p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All, Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 526 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/23/94 4:29p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> Martin, do you get much faster speed (throughput) on a dedicated ->> server as compared to server/workstations? MB> Absolutely. The dedicated server has no other tasks to MB> perform. The server/work-stations are my 2 mailer nodes. Only MB> reason they are "servers" is so that the network can access the MB> local drives on those 2 MB> machines. Before I decided to use the local drives for network MB> usage (mail packet inbound, etc), they were just work stations. MB> The 2 main servers are strickly servers and have no other MB> tasks to perform. OK...please allow me to pick your brain a little more <G> I'm running 3 nodes right now, and would like to speed things up _WITHOUT_ switching BBS Software. I have a 386DX/40 as a Server/Workstation. It has 2 Hard Drives in it...a 1 GIG drive partitioned equally to drives C, D, and E, and a 660 Megger partitioned equally to drives F, G, H, I, J, and K. This machine has 8 megs of ram, and is my MAIN machine, the BBS software residing on the C-Drive. I am running under DOS 5 and Lantastic/AI v4.1 with 10Mbps Ethernet Cards. This machine is ALSO Node 1. Node 2 and 3 are on 386DX/40s that ONLY have 1 meg of ram and 1 single 3.5" floppy for BootUp ... No hard drive. They use Drive C on machine 1 for their BBS operations. These are workstations only. Then, my Planet Connect machine is a 386DX/40 and utilizes its own 180Meg Hard Drive, and is networked as Drive Y. It is a Server/Workstation. Currently, my mail is copied to DRIVE C (from DRIVE Y) and processed/tossed there (on Drive C). I now am thinking about how to do the Tossing on Drive Y for all my downlinks, and THEN copying MY mail to drive C for tossing into My Message bases, as it makes sense that that alone would speed this thing up quite a bit. But, in your opinion, how would you speed this system up without spending $50K? Seriously, I've considered a 486DX/2-66 for a dedicated file server, but don't see that it would enhance the speed that much, as all BBS operations are being done on _ONE_ single hard drive, and I fear that is the problem in system slowdown at times. Thanks very much in advance. --jah ... The Twilight Zone BBS * ASP HUB BBS #3 * MidCentral USA --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 527 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/23/94 3:01p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MB> What else did you want to know? -> -> What kind operating systems on each machine? MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems. Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems. I will not run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 528 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/22/94 7:32p Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to > be on the sat? I unfortunately missed it. So much > for my memory... (Glad my computers memory is better. > <g>) Anyway, I'd like to know how it was. If it was good, I'll try harder > to catch it the next time. Yeah, I heard it was real good, however I missed it as well. As luck would have it, my power supply went out on my data receiver, and while I was tuning the dish for a stronger signal, I strayed off the PC Satellite, and ended up on another one. :-) Waiting for my copy of the show to arrive in the mail. But from what John said on the phone at the night of the show, some real good features are coming out for the PC software, as well as new services. TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 529 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/23/94 7:01a Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Keith I caught the show. It was very good. I am looking forward to the next one watch for info as to time and dates for the next one Gill --- WM v3.10/94-0127 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al 205 565 3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 530 To: JIMMY BONDS Date: 04/23/94 7:02a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jimmy I see you loud and clear here in Opp, Alabama. What part of Alabama are you in ?? Gill --- WM v3.10/94-0127 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al 205 565 3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 531 To: JOE HAYES Date: 04/23/94 5:57p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No BG> There were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you BG> never got them then I have them here for file request. The BG> CTM0005.ZIP file is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs BG> and you can get it from here. CG> Hmmm. It costs to call long distance to get it. Why is it not being CG> sent out over the sat? JH> I would like to see it sent over sat again also. Joe, it appears that it was never sent, because of it's size. To call long distance to get it could cost as much or more than one months subscription. I agree, it should be sent over the sat. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 6.6 Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE MONEY Number: 532 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/23/94 2:06p Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Sid! Friday April 22 1994 09:52, Sid Balcom wrote to Anyone: SB> Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two SB> different computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single SB> user, it works great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated SB> computer to bring in the satellite stuff. The program itself is a cpu HOG. It wants all the processor to itself. Wish they would get a new program that is not the hog that this one is. I have a 386 dx40 that recieves the sat stuff and that is all it can do. SB> If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error SB> free reception? I think a 486 dx33 or better is best. Eddie --- GEcho 1.02+/RA+ * Origin: "The Chicken House "910-957-4307" Microcom V.FC (1:3663/102) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 533 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 04/23/94 3:07p Subj: RE: FILE_ID.DIZ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Don we use a program called MTA_35 you will find it on most of the CD-Roms it will unzip or unarc the file, also Scan for virus strip out bbs ads if you want. and will rezip the file and also use the FileIDZ and make a files.bbs or dir a real noce program Eldon --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: The Country Store - 706-561-7359 - (1:3613/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 534 To: ALL Date: 04/23/94 10:59a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them. Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? 'Clean, Clear, and Naked' Jeff --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: "Where's that damn Torpedo!" - Cpt Kirk (1:247/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 535 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 04/23/94 12:51p Subj: sat computer show Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I couldnt find it..I had my parents looking for it on their > satellite, another > friend looking..never found it..I musta got the channels > confused or sumthin..g3 8 wasn't it? Well, I had it on G3-8. I even made a video tape of it. Maybe yuou had the wrong time or something? It came on at 9:00pm on April 20. Looked fine from here. Later! --- Gecho/386 1.02+ * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:3667/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 536 To: DAVE POUNDS Date: 04/23/94 10:11p Subj: Re: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up -> Call 615-623-4694. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE COPPOCK Number: 537 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/23/94 7:21p Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Anyone, Sid Balcom said: sb> on two different computers and I get lots of errors. When I sb> run it in single user, it works great. I don't like the idea sb> of having to have a dedicated computer to bring in the sb> satellite stuff. You might want to upgrade the UART to a 16550AFN - it has a built in character buffer that will ease the problem of time slicing.. The PC data stream is 19.2k Sync. And you just don't want to miss a single bit.. mc --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: EMCC RA/Pro #5 * Ft. Collins (303)490-2843 - 484-5986 28.8k (1:306/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD WALLEN Number: 538 To: JEFF BROWN Date: 04/24/94 11:47a Subj: Fido Packet errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tue about 17:39, Jeff Brown retorted in a message to All about Fido Packet errors when... Hello Jeff! JB> I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets. JB> I have checked the same packets that were received at JB> different times, and they are all bad. This is a big JB> problem that needs to be fixed. I have been getting 2-3 bad JB> packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost. JB> Thanks! This has been noted here also over the past few days. Though it really didn't start until this past Friday where it was noticable... 4-22. The mail running here has dropped to about half of what it was due to missed bundles erroring during receipt. There have also been a few files corrupted to the same size... I believe the magic number was 16588 or there abouts. A little more each day... Richard Wallen --- * Origin: <<C>> it On-Line After Late Night *BBS* (1:3625/454) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 539 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/24/94 7:42p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> But, in your opinion, how would you speed this system up without -> spending $50K? Seriously, I've considered a 486DX/2-66 for a dedicat -> file server, but don't see that it would enhance the speed that much, -> all BBS operations are being done on _ONE_ single hard drive, and I f -> that is the problem in system slowdown at times. John, Give me a voice call sometime (309) 672-4406. There is no "best" time to call. I am in the computer room most of the time in the evenings and throughout the day. Answering machine will take a message if I am not in. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 540 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/24/94 10:01p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 23 12:17 94, Kim Bergman of 1:358/25 wrote: KB> Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just fine. You're getting out Kim. . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet redwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: Socialism OnLine! * 28.8k V.FC and Planet Connected * (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LITTLE Number: 541 To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 04/24/94 1:12p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Cutler wrote in a message to All: JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through JC> them. Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part JC> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route JC> outbound netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requirement for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the way the policy reads. Thanks, John --- * Origin: Split HoriZons*(905)276-4276/6466*1.7Gigs (1:259/98) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 542 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/24/94 3:50p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kim! In a message to All <04/23/94> Kim Bergman wrote: KB> Hello All, KB> Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. KB> Kim got it in Tennessee Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * DOS 6.0 $49 confirmation that you need a REAL DOS! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 543 To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 04/24/94 11:02a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail JC> through them. Now that I JC> am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's JC> CRP which means he does not have to route outbound JC> netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? I think they do outbound, but not inbound. It isn't too clear if both are actually on the sat. Might want to try. I believe it isn't the NEC who is responsible for netmail, but the NC. I happen to be the NC of our net and still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route landline. That hasn't changed for our net. Keith --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 544 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/24/94 5:17p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> MB> What else did you want to know? ->> ->> What kind operating systems on each machine? MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems. Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems. I MB> will not run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real MB> nightmare. Huh? I'm running QEMM v7.1 (I think that's the one...the latest 7.x) here and there is no forced stealth...it asked me if I wanted to run Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G> --jah ... First Arkansas, then Gennifer, and Now US! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 545 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 04/24/94 9:47p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 23 15:01>, MARTIN BELCKE of 1:232/10 writes: MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems. Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems. I will not MB> run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare. "Forced stealth" under Qemm 7.0x???? I run Qemm 7.03 on three machines here, including the Planet Connect node, and none are running Qemm's Stealth mode. It's totally optional, just as it was under Qemm 6.x. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 546 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 04/23/94 2:11p Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > @ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. > N > Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this. Heck I hope *I* > see this. They tell me > if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something > wrong! (Strange system. > All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.) It worked Fine. Welcome! --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 547 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/23/94 8:37a Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat? Yeah, and it was OK. Good info on protecting your setup from lightning, and some interviews from the BBS expo. Dunno if it was worth $150.00 or not, but it might turn out that way... --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 548 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 04/25/94 4:13a Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No :}Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this. Heck I hope *I* see this. They tell I saw it. ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CYRUS CATHEY Number: 549 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/25/94 4:15a Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB:}Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. :} * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) Got it! ■ QMPro 1.01 41-3544 ■ <<Power Windows! Windows, OS/2, MIDI, News>> --- WM v3.10/94-0123 * Origin: Power Windows! 205-881-8619 Windows, MIDI, OS/2, (1:373/27) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 550 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/25/94 4:57p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 24 11:02>, Keith Sippy of 1:283/121 writes: JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail JC> through them. Now that I JC> am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's JC> CRP which means he does not have to route outbound JC> netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? KS> I think they do outbound, but not inbound. It isn't too clear if both KS> are actually on the sat. Might want to try. I believe it isn't the NEC KS> who is responsible for netmail, but the NC. I happen to be the NC of KS> our net and still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route KS> landline. That hasn't changed for our net. You can route netmail thru 1:3615/50, but it all goes landline. PC_Site to 1:3615/50 via landline; from 1:3615/50 to 1:396/1 via landline, and then thru the normal landline *EC/backbone channels to the appropriate RC via landline, and from the RC to the NC via landline, and finally from the NC to the node via landline. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 551 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 5:00p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 24 13:12>, John Little of 1:259/98 writes: JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to JL> route netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a JL> requirement for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think JL> that is the way the policy reads. You better reread Policy4. Policy4 makes no mention of routed netmail and the NEC (Net Echo Coordinator). It is the Net Coordinator (NC) that has that routing requirement specified in Policy 4, and then only on inbound routed netmail. The NC has no requirement to forward routed netmail outside his/her net - see Policy 4. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 552 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 9:44p Subj: Re: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through > JC> them. Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part > JC> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route > JC> outbound netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? >Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route >netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requirement for >you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the way the >policy reads. > John John, This would only apply to inbound routed netmail. NC's are not required to route any outbound netmail unless agreed to... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH LAFERLA Number: 553 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/25/94 5:58p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kim! 23 Apr 94 12:17, Kim Bergman wrote to All: JB> Hello All, JB> Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. Looked at this message somewhat late but yes it came home up here in Yellowknife as well. Am now running my mailer software, tosser etc under OS2. Anxiously awaiting PC under OS2 as well. All the best Greetings from the Far North Joe --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Northern Star in Yellowknife, NWT, Canada (1:3414/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON MALONE Number: 554 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/23/94 6:05a Subj: Newbie PC questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Sid! > I just got my first data stream yesterday, and OhMiGawd! I've > got dataflying all over the place. I had to stack a whole bunch of it > over in the corner until I can get it straightened out. It is a "little" overwhelming at first, isn't it...... :) > I've got some wierd questions, also. > What software tosses the Usenet news groups? And, can we > redistribute the news groups? What BBS Package are you running? You might be able to use one of the PD tosserd like I thinks it Fredmail? I'm punning PCB and I use Merlin's PCBUUCP. Very nice package. Does everthing including reassembling binaries and updates the dir files to boot! :) > Are the weather maps supposed to be current? The ones I saw seem > to be 2 days old. And, can we redistribute the weather stuff? I was wondering the samething. I don't think we are supposed to be redistributing those. I think they are basically allowed to d/l'd off your board by live callers...... Jim/John or Boyd should know... Taker EZ! Gordon --- PCB15.1/Gecho 1.02+ * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD USR16.8k 410-866-4554 (1:2617/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON MALONE Number: 555 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/24/94 2:25a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Sid! > Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two > different computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single > user, it works great. I don't like the idea of having to have a > dedicated computer to bring in the satellite stuff. > If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error > free reception? I've been playing over here and have found it to run well under DV on a 386/40. I am set to 3/3 ticks and have noticed trashed files when heavy forgraound lookup activity is going on. I talked to Boyd about this and let him know that DV give the include code away openly to help developers make their software DV aware and he sounded like that was already on the slate. I was talking to another PC user and he claims to get no errors running on an 386/40 using 1/1 ticks with heavy activity in the foreground..... I haven't benched it yet, but my experience has been that performance is severely degredated with such little processing time....... Let me know what your tests yeild....... Best Wishes, Gordon --- PCB15.1/Gecho 1.02+ * Origin: Rosedale Data Line Rosedale, MD USR16.8k 410-866-4554 (1:2617/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE Number: 556 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/25/94 1:14p Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >->> MB> What else did you want to know? >->> >->> What kind operating systems on each machine? > MB> MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems. Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems. I > MB> will not run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real > MB> nightmare. > Huh? I'm running QEMM v7.1 (I think that's the > one...the latest 7.x) > here and there is no forced stealth...it asked me if I > wanted to run > Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G> I run qemm v7.4 and I run Stealth all the time with no problems and yes it does ask if you want to use it or not. Sincerely, Richard D. Bonebrake --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: (1:140/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 557 To: EDDIE MONEY Date: 04/25/94 9:52a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Eddie! EM> The program itself is a cpu HOG. It wants all the processor to itself. EM> Wish they would get a new program that is not the hog that this one is. I EM> have a 386 dx40 that recieves the sat stuff and that is all it can do. I have to agree on this one. We are running a 386DX 40 as well. We are running it under desqview and a Novell Netware lite. It shares the computer with our mail only node running front door. During the first broadcast of the day I have front door just set to answer the phone without exiting for any reason. Of course PTCCMAIN gets the front window as well. Its tricky but I can get by the first broadcast of the day without errors. 'Clean, Clear, and Naked' Jeff --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: "Where's that damn Torpedo!" - Cpt Kirk (1:247/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 558 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 2:56p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route JL> netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requirement JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the JL> way the policy reads. Here in region 12 there was a big brawl over that discusion. From what I could see the agreement was NEC's are responsible for inbound netmail coming to me, but he/she is not have to route my outbound netmail. 'Clean, Clear, and Naked' Jeff --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: "Where's that damn Torpedo!" - Cpt Kirk (1:247/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CUTLER Number: 559 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 04/25/94 3:03p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Keith! KS> I think they do outbound, but not inbound. It isn't too clear if both are KS> actually on the sat. Might want to try. I believe it isn't the NEC who KS> is responsible for netmail, but the NC. I happen to be the NC of our net KS> and still get netmail from the RC (and other sources) and route landline. KS> That hasn't changed for our net. I am just worried about outbound netmail. There have been too many arguments in our area over particpating in cost recovery programs and nodes that opt for another source. Thanks for the info on outbound netmail. I am not sure how our NEC will feel about non paying nodes routing netmail through him, and considering our current situation I don't think it will happen. 'Clean, Clear, and Naked' Jeff --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: "Where's that damn Torpedo!" - Cpt Kirk (1:247/315) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 560 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 8:54p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is JL> required to route netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't JL> think there is a requirement for you to contribute to any JL> CRP for this feature. I think that is the way the policy JL> reads. Actually the NEC doesn't have to do squat except keep tabs on who gets what from where. It's the NC's responsibility to route (inbound) netmail for nodes in his net. Outbound netmail may only be routed through nodes that agree to route it, that includes routing oubound stuff through the NC. Cheers, Rob --- * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 561 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 04/25/94 9:13p Subj: Re: big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> Joe, it appears that it was never sent, because of it's size. To WS> call long distance to get it could cost as much or more than one WS> months subscription. I agree, it should be sent over the sat. WS> Wally If I remember, there was a few people that said they recieved it?? No I won't poll for it either. (thats the whole idea behind getting a dish RIGHT)? It's just another file that either didn't make it or the .tic didn't make it. I end up with all kinds of "extra" files/.tics at the end of the month. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM KLAN Number: 562 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/24/94 7:09a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SB> Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? I've tried it on two different >computers and I get lots of errors. When I run it in single user, it works >great. I don't like the idea of having to have a dedicated computer to bring >the satellite stuff. SB> If it WILL run under DesqView, what's the trick to getting error fre >reception? Even with 16550 uart chips which correct most errors, planet connect receives tons of errors in desqview ONLY when you're in another window typing. If you start say, planet connect receive and 2 nodes of a bbs reception will be fine. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Tim's BBS * Erie, PA * 814-825-1731 * (1:2601/566) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 563 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 7:52p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John, 24 Apr 94, 13:12, John Little wrote to Jeff Cutler: JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route JL> netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requirement Say what? No one is *required* to route anything they choose not to. JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the JL> way the policy reads. You should read policy again and then rethink your position. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 564 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 04/24/94 4:01p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bob Slowinski wrote: BS> JUST wondering if someone could enlighten me on how they BS> have their two networked machines setup. I use LanTastic 5.0 (the old 2 MBPS cards not AI) among 3 units with the link between the BBS and the PLANET boxes set up in full peer-to-peer (both systems are servers and clients). The PLANET machine opens a network channel to the BBS and tests to see if it doing intensive mail tossing (a flag called "toss.bsy"). If not busy then it sets its own flag "planet.bsy" and uses PCFU to move the files across the network to the BBS inbound directory. If the BBS drops for a mail toss during transfer the "planet.bsy" flag tells it to come back later to do its work. The only reason the PLANET machine is set as server is so that I can manipulate it remotely from my OS/2 command center. It has worked consistently with the C-Band dish all along and has given me no problems using a 16 MHz 286, a 16 MHz 386SX, and a 33 MHz 386DX as the PLANET motherboard. I am currently configured with a 33 MHz 386DX on the BBS using 16550AFN comm chips and a 16 MHz 386SX on the PLANET side. The OS/2 unit also serves a second LAN aside from the BBS/PLANET Lantastic setup connected to my usenet feed etc.. At present I swallow the mail during the errorlevel drops produced by PC rather than initiating transfers from the remote side. This produces mail in a large lump rather than a gradual trickle that you could get by processing hourly from the remote side. Works well for this net. Hope that helps some, Dan --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD SETTLES Number: 565 To: JEFF BROWN Date: 04/23/94 10:25a Subj: Fido Packet errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ** Quoting Jeff Brown to All dated 19 Apr 94 17:39:12 ** J> I have been getting CRC errors in some of the fido packets. I have checked J> the same packets that were received at different times, and they are all J> bad. This is a big problem that needs to be fixed. I have been getting 2-3 J> bad packets each day, that is alot of messages being lost. Thanks! J> --- CNet/3 J> * Origin: Terminal Paradise BBS * Adults Only * 717-292-0497 * (1:270/611) J> We have been having complaints about that here too. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: -- The Horseman's BBS; Munith MI <517-769-2230> - (1:2330/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 566 To: ALL Date: 04/23/94 9:12p Subj: K12 Freeway? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12? Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them? Thanks! Mark! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 567 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/25/94 11:02a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (22 Apr 94) Sid Balcom wrote to Anyone... SB> Does PTCCMAIN not run under DesqView? If you have not already worked this out, contact Jeff at our office and he will help you out. He has the best knowledge of PC running under DesqView. You can catch him at 1:3615/50.3 also. ....Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 568 To: DON JOHNSON Date: 04/25/94 11:05a Subj: Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (22 Apr 94) Don Johnson wrote to Boyd Goodin... DJ> Is there an information packet on what is required, and how one gets a DJ> network on Planet Connect? Best way for now is to send a fax with info on your net such as number of nodes, size of feed per day, who the boss is, who will send it to us, all this type stuff,..... DJ> I've sent netmail, but no response. Please send by fax at 615-625-8831. .....Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 569 To: DAVE POUNDS Date: 04/25/94 11:09a Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (22 Apr 94) Dave Pounds wrote to John Lyon... DP> how do I find more info on the satellite to pc hook up Not sure what you are asking...??? Info on the system,..??? tech info on the satellite itself...?? Give me a little more to work with....?? ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER CONWAY Number: 570 To: ALL Date: 04/25/94 12:26p Subj: * InterNet * Usenet * Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you're calling a Commercial Internet Provider such as HoloNet(tm) to get your mail for your BBS, then your paying WAY TOO MUCH. Getting your Mail from another BBS? Quit going through a middle-man, it's time to get your BBS a DIRECT Internet connection. Sysops looking for REAL access to the Internet, I invite you to freq the following file for complete information on how to get your system connected to the InterNet for a lot less than you think. Just some of the services we offer: Domain Name Registration (Have your own REAL Internet Address such as anybbs.com ),E-mail, Newsgroups, FTP, Telenet, IRC, Gopher, Archie, WAIS, WWW, PING, SLIP/PPP, Leased Lines and more.... Freq: INTERUSE.ZIP OR Send Email to: Info@backdr.com From: 1:271/320 Have a question? Give us a call, 804-229-4484. Office hours are 9am-7pm EST. --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 571 To: MODERATOR Date: 04/25/94 2:26p Subj: Your name/node number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I need the moderator of this echo's name and node number for a direct Netmail send. Please reply. Thank you, Mark Adkins Blue Lake Systems 1:105/285 --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 572 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/25/94 11:54a Subj: K12 Freeway? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! Saturday April 23 1994 21:12, Mark Malacarne wrote to All: MM> Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12? MM> MM> Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them? MM> MM> MM> Thanks! MM> Mark! MM> MM> -+- Cray Systems .002+ MM> + Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) Look in your SKYDATA/PERSONAL directory for SATELITE.NA that contains the AREA-Tags for K12_HYW and other stuff that's not in Fidonet.na/Filebone.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 573 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 11:57a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday April 24 1994 13:12, John Little wrote to Jeff Cutler: JL> Jeff Cutler wrote in a message to All: JL> JC>> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through JC>> them. Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part JC>> of the NEC's CRP which means he does not have to route JC>> outbound netmail for me. Can I do the outbound through PC? JL> JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to route JL> netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requirement JL> for you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the JL> way the policy reads. Nope... don't be too quick to assume all NEC's and NETS operate like you net does. Not all NETS operate the same way... in my Net the NEC is an Adminitrative Position and NOT a Mail Mover for my Net. Also in my NET, there are Four, count them.. 1,2,3,4 seperate Downlinks to Planet Connect, to each his/her own... Our Primary Mail Feed is an Elected Position, Seperate from the NC & NEC position, who provides Routed Netmail to/from the Fido Backbone to all Node in our Net.. Regards, George Vandervort - NET382 NEC ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB JACKSON Number: 574 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 04/25/94 7:25a Subj: Re: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > @ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N > Well, I sure hope SOMEONE sees this. Heck I hope *I* see this. They > tell me > if it don't come back as a dupe, I've done something wrong! (Strange > system. > All this time I've been avoiding making dupes.) > ^..^ > --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' > * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) We see you over here.. Quit Mooning us! :-) --- DB 1.58/002334 * Origin: Bob's Bulldog Express (1:110/380) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 575 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 04/25/94 11:35a Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Martin Belcke babbled to Russell Naber <on 04/23/94>: MB} MS-DOS 5.0 on all systems. Also, QEMM 6.x on all systems. I will not MB} run Qemm 7.x because of the forced stealth - a real nightmare. You can run OPTIMIZE in the "Custom Installation" mode with QEMM 7.03 -- it allows you to install with or without stealth. I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03. 7.03 seems to be rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here. Tried it both ways for 30 days each. Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN LINDENFELD Number: 576 To: BOYD GOODEN Date: 04/25/94 11:18p Subj: Com Ports Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well had to share the com ports with com1 now so node1 comes down when I receive Planet Connect and then come back up after so guess I have to put up with that till OS/2 becomes available... Thanks for all you help today and hope to be moving forward from here.... -=Brian=- --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: (A)bort (F)ail (T)oss computer across room.. (1:264/188) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: N.L. HARGROVE Number: 577 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/25/94 12:59p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 24 13:12>, John Little of 1:259/98 writes: JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required JL> to route netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there JL> is a requirement for you to contribute to any CRP for this JL> feature. I think that is the way the policy reads. Sorry to inform you but no one is required to route Netmail. Especially if it places a burden of cost on them. An net mail should be route via the Net Coordinator not the Net Echomail Coordinator. As you said Netmail has nothing to do with echo mail. If anyone has a problem routhing net mail then they should use the first rule of thumb that I apply. "Is it going to cost me money?" If so then it will cost someone else money too. The Digital Media Publisher N.L. (Jake) Hargrove ReaderSoft Software --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Via <=> New Mexico Connection - Los Lunas, NM (1:317/317) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CRAIN Number: 578 To: GEORGE HANNAH Date: 04/25/94 11:10a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 25, 1994, at 17:08, George Hannah of 1:255/7 wrote: GH> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and GH> inbound netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, GH> since most software is setup with this type of routing in mind. Since this is not exactly topical, I was going to ignore it. But, with all the mis-information that's being tossed about I thought I'd just quote Policy4 to clear the air. _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _ O \ 2.1.7 Not Routing Mail You are not required to route traffic if you have not agreed to do so. You are not obligated to route traffic for all if you route it for any, unless you hold a Network Coordinator or Hub Coordinator position. Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform routing without the permission of that node may be annoying behavior. This includes unsolicited echomail. 4.2 Routing Inbound Mail It is your responsibility as Network Coordinator to coordinate the receipt and forwarding of host-routed inbound netmail for nodes in your network. The best way to accomplish this is left to your discretion. _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _ O \ Which when condensed says, an NC must route INBOUND mail. Period. Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Rendezvous!! 28800/V.FC Bastrop, Tx [512-303-1324] (1:382/92) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 579 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/26/94 7:08p Subj: Fido Packet errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 25 23:19 94, Kim Bergman of 1:358/25 wrote: KB> How are you detecting these errors? I haven't noticed any CRC errors KB> but I'm just getting started with PC so maybe I'm not doing it right. You won't detect any errors with PCUtil or other utilities. It is the PTCCMAIN program (the main Planet Connect program) that detects the errors. When PTCCMAIN receives a file with errors in it, you'll see it on the monitor if you're watching, but PTCCMAIN won't even save this file to disk since it's bad. What happens is that during the second send of the files for that day chances are you'll get a good receive on the 'bad' file that wasn't saved then. . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet redwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: Socialism OnLine! * 28.8k V.FC and Planet Connected * (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 580 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/26/94 4:44p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required to r -> netmail for all nodes in the net. I don't think there is a requireme -> you to contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that is the w -> policy reads. NEC's are NOT required to route netmail. In fact, NEC's aren't required to do anything. Routed netmail goes by way of the *C structure, as per Policy 4. Many of the *EC structure have agreed to accept routed netmail and do route it, but the have never been, nor are they REQUIRED to do this. --Martin Belcke-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ADAIR Number: 581 To: ALL Date: 04/26/94 10:56p Subj: Another Link test <g> Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Folks, Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our return links onto the Satellite. Anybody hear me?? Thanks! Oh.. one quick question. When I send my replies to Planet Connect I know that it should go to the Satellite, but does it also go to the rest of Fido that is NOT hooked onto the bird?? Thanks again. God bless. In Christ, Steve <steve.adair@firehouse.org> ========================================================================== Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822 FamilyNet 8:1011/0 jude23@firehouse.org "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23) ========================================================================== --- WM v3.10/93-0610 * Origin: Greenville, Sc FamlyNet Backbone (1:3639/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ADAIR Number: 582 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 04/26/94 11:03p Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<Quoting: JIM DUNMYER To: KEITH SIPPY >> JD> > Did anyone see the computer show that was supposed to be on the sat? JD> Yeah, and it was OK. Good info on protecting your setup from lightning, JD> and some interviews from the BBS expo. Dunno if it was worth $150.00 or JD> not, but it might turn out that way... Lightning??? You mean now I have to worry about lightning too?? I have a steel yard 20 yards from our house. The lightning really homes in on all that steel piled up. I think that would act as a lightning rod for us... but just something else to worry about eh?? <g> Btw, tonight (Tuesday) around 9:30 P.M. the alarm went off on my receiver. Did this happen with anyone else? I ran outside to see if the dish was alright, and it was, and the lnb light was on, but there was no data signal coming in. Anyone else have this problem? That event only lasted for about 5 minutes. Oh, I lost my documents that PC sent me on how to turn off that LOUD alarm that goes off... can someone tell me what the dip switch settings are to turn off the alarm?? Thanks and God bless. In Christ, Steve <steve.adair@firehouse.org> ========================================================================== Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822 FamilyNet 8:1011/0 jude23@firehouse.org "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23) ========================================================================== --- WM v3.10/93-0610 * Origin: Greenville, Sc FamlyNet Backbone (1:3639/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 583 To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 04/26/94 7:04p Subj: Netmails Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ------------------------------------------------------------ -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to All <=- JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them. JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me. Can I Question...Should you not be included in the CRP for Netmails that are routed through to you. Although you can route outbound Netmails Via 1:3615/50 I don't think you can recieve them Via tha Bird! Thus your NC still has to poll for his\her Netmails. Hence you are now part of the cost. Although it doesn't equivilate to very much on a monthly basis, should you not still contribute..? --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED FORTIN Number: 584 To: ALL Date: 04/26/94 11:28p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone been recieving mail in the hobbies echo. Although it's in the list of echo's there seems to be NO Messages..? --- * Origin: The Jester's Court II (1:256/99) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 585 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/27/94 2:42a Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Martin Belcke, John Hrusovszky said: JH>Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G> Pity.....stealth works just great in the _latest_ version of QEMM. I'm running it here on the machine that brings in the mail w/o any problems whatsoever. The _only_ thing that I've found that will not work with stealth in the latest QEMM is the Brother's Keeper genealogy program....must be a bug in Brother's Keeper! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 586 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/26/94 5:48a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is required > to route netmail for all nodes in the net. The NC is required but not the NEC. Most NEC's route netmail along with the Echomail as an alternate routing method. Ed --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 587 To: MARK MALACARNE Date: 04/25/94 11:17p Subj: K12 Freeway? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! 23 Apr 94, Mark Malacarne writes to All: MM> Ok I'm looking for the areatags for K12? MM> Can someone post them again or let me know where I can FREQ them? Here you go Mark. Tim _ _ _O_/_ _C_u_t_ _H_e_r_e_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O \ K12_FWY.ACAD.COMP Academic Computing Info & Issues K12_FWY.ART.ED.CLASS Art Classroom K12_FWY.BUS.ED.CLASS Business Education Classroom K12_FWY.CLASSIC.LANG Classical Language Arts Classroom K12_FWY.COUNSELING School Counseling & Guidance K12_FWY.EDU.ISSUES Issues Concerning Educational Policies, Reform, etc. K12_FWY.ENGLISH.CLAS English Language Arts Classroom K12_FWY.FRENCH.CLASS French Language Arts Classroom K12_FWY.GERMAN.CLASS German Language Arts Classroom K12_FWY.HLTH.PHYS.ED Health & Physical Education Classroom K12_FWY.HOME.ECON Home Economics, Safety & Life Skills Classroom K12_FWY.LIBRARY.SCI Library Science Classroom (school and public) K12_FWY.LOGISTIC.SUP Logistical Support Svcs (food/transport/bldg&grnds,etc.) K12_FWY.MATH.CLASS Mathematics Classroom K12_FWY.NET.ISSUES Issues Concerning K12Freeway Network K12_FWY.NEWS K12Freeway Community Newsroom (news only, no discussion) K12_FWY.OTHER.LANG Other Language Arts Classroom (Japanese, Russian, etc.) K12_FWY.PARENTS Parents as Teachers/Curricular Resources K12_FWY.PERF.ART Performing Arts Classroom (band, drama, etc.) K12_FWY.POPULATION K12Freeway Conference on World Population K12_FWY.PRINCIPALS School Administrators conference K12_FWY.RELIGION Religious Education Classroom (non-public schools) K12_FWY.SCI.CLASS Science Classroom K12_FWY.SOC.STUDIES Social Studies Classroom K12_FWY.SPANISH.CLAS Spanish Language Arts Classroom K12_FWY.SPEC.ED Compensatory Education: learning disabled, etc. K12_FWY.TAL&GIFTED Teaching Talented & Gifted Students K12_FWY.TEACHING Philosophy/Science/Art/Craft/Profession of Teaching K12_FWY.TECH.ED.CLAS Technology Classroom K12_FWY.UNION.ISSUES School Employee Labor Union-related issues & information K12_FWY.VOCATIONAL Vocational & Trades Classroom _ _ _O_/_ _C_u_t_ _H_e_r_e_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O \ --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS - CALGARY, AB CANADA (403)285-7338 *HAYES 28.8* (1:134/17.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 588 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 04/26/94 2:35a Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just fine. -> You're getting out Kim. I wish someone would tell ME that! (Even though my name aint Kim.) From deepest South Texas, five miles from Mexico. ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DONOHUE Number: 589 To: EVERYONE Date: 04/26/94 9:10a Subj: AreaFix 1.30 question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings All; I'm assisting NET397's Planet Connect hub with his setup. In the AreaFix 1:30 docs (in the WHATSNEW section) it mentions that AreaFix will only honor one forward request per node per day. A little experimentation seems to bear this out. Since the PC Node is feeding two net hubs, and they are feeding the rest of the nodes in the net, each hub only being able to do one forward request a day is a problem. Does anyone know of a way to disable this 'feature'? (Besides say, switching to RecUser or Squish Area Echo Link Manager) ---- I've also noticed that when we try to send echomail replys back to 1:3615/50, after FrontDoor connects, it gets the text string "****ILLEGAL ACCESS****' and 3615/50 then disconnects. Does this indicate a password error, or that 3615/50 doesn't have us entered in his setup yet, or ????? 'Read-only' Fido echoes aren't exactly what we had in mind. ;-) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library * McAllen TX * (210) 682-4530 (1:397/5258) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 590 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/25/94 11:00p Subj: account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I sent this via RIME Planet Connect conference and in hopes of reaching you I will re post it here in the Fido Planet Connect conference. I seem to have a problem with the expire date of our Planet Connect account. Our original starting date was in Oct 93 during your BETA test period. Our first quarter payment started Nov 1 1993. We paid for three months as a HUB. On January 11, 1994 I noticed PTCCMAIN.EXE beeping at us, warning us of the 9 days to renew. This was 10 days before I expected it to happen. We faxed you and after a few days called for our renewal. I was told by Bob that a term was 30 days and a quarter is 3 times that or 90 days. Now I've paid for another quarter as a single BBS node signing up as a yearly subscriber and I was told that my new expire date is on July 12 1994. I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's. --- * OLX 1.52 * I thought I saw a Computer Attack! --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 591 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/26/94 11:58a Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely -> since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03. 7.03 seems to be -> rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here. Tried it -> both ways for 30 days each. Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5. Hi, Dean... I run exactly the same thing..... would one of those "mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server locking up as it starts to execute a program? for absolutely no apparent reason? mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and then might do it again several times in that day, only to work fine for days more.... thanks... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIMMY BONDS Number: 592 To: GILL BLUE Date: 04/25/94 2:51p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: Gill Blue to Jimmy Bonds on Sat Apr 23 1994 07:02:54 > I see you loud and clear here in Opp, Alabama. What part of Alabama are > you in ?? Gill Back over in a little hole called Cullman, Al. ands thanks! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Southern Breeze BBS: The Heart of Dixie 205-739-3418 (1:3607/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIMMY BONDS Number: 593 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/25/94 2:51p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Link test BY: Kim Bergman on Sat Apr 23 1994 12:17:21 > Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. Getting you here in Alabama! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Southern Breeze BBS: The Heart of Dixie 205-739-3418 (1:3607/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MCCABE Number: 594 To: ALL Date: 04/26/94 5:29a Subj: Waffle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings All! Since our ZEC has switched over, it has us all updating/upgrading our systems! I am looking for help in setting up Waffle 1.65 as a Door off of RemoteAccess 2.xx Waffle loads and runs/works... My problem is that it will not Return to RA, but drops carrier (I did read the doc's, I did add disable: BYE in the static...) Later...MM... ... Help, I've plummeted to my death and I can't get up! --- GoldED 2.42.G0214+\#23LM1 * Origin: Golden Country* on Bull Shoals Lake, Missouri (1:297/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 595 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/26/94 9:12p Subj: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Boyd! I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me. What is the charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per month? And what does that include? The filebone too? Thanks. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 596 To: BOYD GOODEN Date: 04/26/94 2:06p Subj: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error? TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 597 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/27/94 11:31a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (26 Apr 94) Sid Balcom wrote to Johnny Green... SB> Unfortunately, when I was at your office, with a million and SB> one questions, there was no one there to give me answers. I've still SB> got a million questions, and the only answer I've gotten so far is SB> that it doesn't work under DesqView. I am really wondering where you got that answer, for it is very inacurate. We run it here at the office under DesqView, and numerous sysops that have our system do also. Numerous folks here in this echo also run under DV as you have received msgs to that effect. SB> I wonder if contacting your SB> office will do me any good. Totally up to you,.....we will be glad to help anyone any way we can,....no problem. SB> I get the impression that the two girls SB> are not too technically qualified. As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery, or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES jobs include handling the paper work, finances, mail, and just plain ole keeping Boyd and I straight., ( BTW,...you don't have to be technically qualified at all for that last one..<g>...). ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON JOHNSON Number: 598 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/27/94 12:22a Subj: Re: Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Johnny Green had these words of wisdom for Don Johnson. These words were uttered 25 Apr 94 11:05:47. JG> Best way for now is to send a fax with info on your net JG> such as JG> number of nodes, size of feed per day, who the boss is, JG> who will JG> send it to us, all this type stuff,..... Well, since I really don't have access to a fax, is there a voice number? Don Johnson --- * Origin: Chivalry IS alive! Saturday Knights 303-420-8927 (1:104/531) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORI SMITH Number: 599 To: ALL Date: 04/27/94 7:56a Subj: Test Origin Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Test message to see if origin line is appending MY net address of 1:2255/60.... Thanks Guys! +Lori+ * OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee (1:2255/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 600 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/26/94 3:14a Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Kim! In a message to All <04/23/94> Kim Bergman wrote: KB> Hello All, KB> Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. Coming In clear In Canton, Oh <<sig.imp * WCE 1.5/2119 * Always assume the second try will be different. --- WM v3.10/92-0329 * Origin: The Pentagon - Canton, Oh - 216-493-3522 (1:157/631) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED BOSTON Number: 601 To: ALL Date: 04/26/94 2:23p Subj: FidoNet replies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was curious as to sending replies from FidoNet out onto the network. Is it necessary to send the replies through Planet Connect or can I upload them to a local FidoNet hub? For the conferences not on the backbone, I know I would have to go through PC, but if I don't for the rest of the conferences, I would rather advoid the LD costs. Ed Boston ed.boston@phant.boise.id.us --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003092 Entered at [PHANTASIA] --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff040/x] * Origin: Phantasia BBS - Boise, ID (1:347/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 602 To: BILL ROPER Date: 04/27/94 1:57p Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BR} Hi, Dean... BR} I run exactly the same thing..... would one of those BR} "mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server BR} locking up as it starts to execute a program? for absolutely BR} no apparent reason? Yep, sounds familiar. Might do it today on the mailer, tomorrow on the BBS program, and next week on a door. Wait 2 weeks, then start hanging on the mail tosser. No logic at all to it. BR} mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time BR} I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and BR} then might do it again several times in that day, only to BR} work fine for days more.... Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade to QEMM 7.03. I hope you find its the solution. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 603 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/27/94 6:34p Subj: Clari News Groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have seen -> no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error? Ditto. I have a user who would like to have them. Boyd: Any chance of getting them added to the feed? Mike --- QScan v1.065b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe * 219-453-4046 * v32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 604 To: ALL Date: 04/27/94 12:25p Subj: Is it me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it me??? I don't think so... It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from 5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing. I'm running a 14.4 USR Dual Std and have no problems like this with others. I don't have to do this too often, only on occassion when a mail bundle isn't recv'd by the second pass, but it's disturbing to spend 15 minutes to get a 450k file! Boyd, what seems to be the problem? It's node 1 that I'm connecting with, and I get the same results no matter how many times I hang-up and try again. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 605 To: JOHN DONOHUE Date: 04/26/94 4:19p Subj: AreaFix 1.30 question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> 'Read-only' Fido echoes aren't exactly what we had in mind. ;-) That's a very generous way of putting it. I've been using quite a lot stronger language than THAT! You mean to tell me we may expect this to WORK someday? GLORY! ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 606 To: BOB JACKSON Date: 04/26/94 4:25p Subj: Re: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> We see you over here.. Quit Mooning us! :-) Well, I'll be dipped and dabbled around! I AM getting out! Will miracles never cease, and the electron gods be forever blessed! GLORY! Now if the REST of the echos only worked! ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 607 To: BILL WOLF Date: 04/27/94 1:39a Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> It worked Fine. Welcome! Yeah, but I found out tonight that it both WENT, and returned via landline, and spent NO time on the bird. (Strangely enough we don't get this echo off the sat!) What a _strange_ world Fido is.... (and apparently getting stranger by the minute!) ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 608 To: GEORGE HANNAH Date: 04/27/94 12:24p Subj: Re: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Hannah wrote in a message to Jeff Cutler: -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to All <=- JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them. JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me. Can I GH> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and GH> inbound netmail for you. I think this would be your best They are required to route -inbound-, but they don't have to route outbound. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURT JUDA Number: 609 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/27/94 9:35p Subj: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Le Duc writes: JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is JLD> the PCUSENET file in error? clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy. They can't send it thru the bird. --- timEd 1.00 * Origin: Merlin's Castle BBS, Edison, NJ (1:107/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EARL ALBIN Number: 610 To: RICK EDWARDS Date: 04/24/94 10:00a Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending RE> messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? Rick, I think there is a problem in the bridge into FIDO where the Planet Connect support is supposed to come from. I'm sure your message is reaching all RIME systems that carry the Planet Connect #458 conference. I do not recall ever seeing a reply in this conference from anyone at PC to a RIME only system! Would be a big help if we could get support in here though. Earl === * Valley PC Board - Valley Station, KY (502)937-6143 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 VALLEYPC (#1066) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRAD CHESBRO Number: 611 To: RICK EDWARDS Date: 04/24/94 7:32p Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending -> messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? Hush! I'm trying to take a nap.... ROBONAP: Sleeps *for* you while you're online. === * Mushin BBS - Join the InfoMushin Age - 619/452-8137 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 MUSHIN (#819) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY SNOW Number: 612 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/24/94 3:15a Subj: Rime and pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Right now its a pretty hot thread on RIME about the "delays" that the satellite arrangements are imposing, versus the old land phone lines, on network mail. I have heard it said that RIME might possibly add other options like FTP or otherwise - in order to get faster mail turn around times. All at a cost to HUB sites that would challenge current PConn costs on a monthly basis. Question: Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to its RIME file processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would eliminate some of the RIME leadership's concerns? === * SLMR 2.1a * Stormtroopers can't hit a barn door at this dis.... * Rocky Mountain Software Salt Lake City, Ut 801-963-8721 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 ROCKYMTN (#1384) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS VON MOTZ Number: 613 To: EARL ALBIN Date: 04/26/94 12:50p Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I see it here in San Jose , Ca. , and yes , I am on Sat. Amazing huh?? TTYL, Chris. === * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.(408)294-3065,V.32bis.4 NODES * PostLink(tm) v1.20 REDBARON (#1077) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 614 To: GEORGE HANNAH Date: 04/26/94 6:53p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JC> Does planet connect offer the routing of Netmail through them. > JC> Now that I am getting a feed from PC I am not a part of the NEC's CRP > JC> which means he does not have to route outbound netmail for me. Can I > However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and inbound > netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, since most > software is setup with this type of routing in mind. eh ..... You may want to recheck your position on this, George... As NC I am required to routed INBOUND mail... *NOT* outbound mail... --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 615 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/27/94 11:36p Subj: Re: Netmails Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Question...Should you not be included in the CRP for Netmails that are >routed through to you. Although you can route outbound Netmails Via >1:3615/50 I don't think you can recieve them Via tha Bird! Thus your NC >still has to poll for his\her Netmails. Hence you are now part of the cost. >Although it doesn't equivilate to very much on a monthly basis, should you >not still contribute..? Ed, Routed INBOUND netmail is an obligation accepted by a NC and should not be part of a cost recovery program.. the same applies to Nodediffs, Fidonews and Policy updates/changes. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 616 To: MICHAEL MCCABE Date: 04/27/94 6:27p Subj: Waffle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MM> I am looking for help in setting up Waffle 1.65 as a Door off of RemoteAcce >2.xx MM> Waffle loads and runs/works... My problem is that it will not Return to RA >but drops carrier (I did read the doc's, I did add disable: BYE in the >static...) i just did this also...i found waffle very unreliable..the rnews tosser locked up way too ofter and waffle would lock up intermitently when posting a message...here's how i got waffle to return to the bbs.. add a text file called RETURN to your \waffle\extern directory.. in the text file put RETURN: /exit=15 then typing RETURN instead of BYE will make waffle exit with an error level of 15 but with the carrier still high instead of dropping. hope it helps,,, jerry --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SIKKO DE GRAAF Number: 617 To: ALL Date: 04/26/94 10:29p Subj: Planet connect in Europe?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello friends oversea I get temporarely this echo by normal channels. Does anyone know if Planet connect will allready supprt Europe or is going to support?.. greetings sikko de graaf --- FMail 0.90 * Origin: Nurse Net Nederland. +31-10-4101933 (2:512/184) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE POUNDS Number: 618 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/27/94 3:04p Subj: Re: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> Not sure what you are asking...??? JG> JG> Info on the system,..??? tech info on the satellite itself...?? JG> Give me a little more to work with....?? well I was asking how I find the hard ware to connect my satellite dish to my computer I have seen the hard ware one time on the home shopping network that way I can recive the nets over my dish --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: You have entered the Demon's Realm (1:3604/53) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 619 To: STEVE ADAIR Date: 04/27/94 6:21p Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Btw, tonight (Tuesday) around 9:30 P.M. the alarm went > off on my receiver. > Did this happen with anyone else? I ran outside to > see if the dish was > alright, and it was, and the lnb light was on, but > there was no data signal > coming in. Anyone else have this problem? That event > only lasted for > about 5 minutes. Oh, I lost my documents that PC sent Hmm.. Thats funny you mentioned that. Do you have a KU dish? I had the same thing last night. (Tuesday). It was around 9:30 or could of been 8:30 my time. The signal went all the way down, no data coming in, but the lnb was okay. Figured the storms we had in the area knocked the dish out of alignment. Went outside, and all was okay. Also I noticed my receiver was a tad bit hot - Figured it overheated. So I just unplugged it and let it cool off for about 5 minutes. Plugged it back in, and away it went. Been on for about 21 hours, and no warning tones. TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 620 To: SID BALCOM Date: 04/27/94 12:14p Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sid Balcom wrote in a message to Gordon Malone: SB> I think I may have a flakey 16550 in there and need SB> to replace it. At the moment I'm using Netware Lite, which SB> isn't all that happy under DesqView. So, there's a LOT of SB> sneakernet going on. Hmm, I'm running Desqview under NWLITE here with very few problems. I did have a LOT of probs at first, but a week of trial and error with the server configuration fixed the probs. You need to be sure that you have enough client tasks enabled (along with the associated buffers). Each task you are running is a client. Also make sure your using DV V.2.62, QEMM 7.03, and have the network parameters set correctly in DVsetup. The downside to reconfiguring the server is that the server needs more conventional memory. Don't forget to re-optimize after each change! If you are tight on conventional mem (who aint?), I had to kick in Vidram, VREMS, and select CGA for monitor type in DVsetup ....which left me with 548K for the first task. The remaining tasks get about 520K. Expanding Server and the other changes meant that Server could not be loaded high....that plus the fact that the digifossel can't be loaded high, really cuts into the base 739K of conventional memory! With all of that, I have a native DOS machine, one under Desqview, and a third running Windows for Workgroups running together with only the usual problems caused by the worst virus of them all....me. I have found that trying to unzip a 10 meg file from and back to a Network drive acrost the LAN is iladvised, but beyond that everything is pretty smooth. My problem is with W4W under NWLITE.......maybe Chacago will fix EVERYTHING. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 621 To: JOHN LITTLE Date: 04/27/94 4:51a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> Netmail has nothing to do with EchoMail, and any NEC is JL> required to route netmail for all nodes in the net. I JL> don't think there is a requirement for you to JL> contribute to any CRP for this feature. I think that JL> is the way the policy reads. OOPS! Any *NC* is required to route *INCOMING* Netmail to this Net. There is no requirements for *anyone* to route it outside the Net and there are no requirements on an NEC at all because they don't exist. Later Ken N305C N305EC --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 622 To: GEORGE HANNAH Date: 04/27/94 5:10a Subj: Re: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and inbound GH> netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, since most GH> software is setup with this type of routing in mind. Don't lead the guy astray. NC's are only required to route INBOUND Netmail. Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 623 To: GARY CRAIN Date: 04/27/94 10:42p Subj: Re: Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GH>> However, it is your NC's job to route outbound netmail and GH>> inbound netmail for you. I think this would be your best route, GH>> since most software is setup with this type of routing in mind. GC> Since this is not exactly topical, I was going to ignore it. GC> But, with all the mis-information that's being tossed about I GC> thought I'd just quote Policy4 to clear the air. GC> _ _ _ O / _ _ C_U_T_ H_E_R_E_ _ _ _ GC> O \ GC> 2.1.7 Not Routing Mail GC> You are not required to route traffic if you have not agreed GC> to do so. You are not obligated to route traffic for all if you GC> route it for any, unless you hold a Network Coordinator or Hub GC> Coordinator position. I find it a bit trivial that someone thinks it is going to 'hurt' them to route a netmail packet. After all, most of us are running high speed, and what does an extra 1 or 2 K at high speed actually cost in money? I doubt ANYTHING, since Ma Bell is not charging by the second, but in x-second time slices, as far as I know. GC> Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform routing GC> without the permission of that node may be annoying behavior. GC> This includes unsolicited echomail. I've never personally seen this, so what exactly does routed netmail look like to the node that it is being routed through? I have heard of instances where SysOps delete routed netmail (or read it) when they see it, but I haven't for the life of me figured out how in the heck they know it is there. --jah ... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same! --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 624 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 04/27/94 10:42p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH>>Stealth mode, and I entered "Hell No!" <G> MF> Pity.....stealth works just great in the _latest_ version of MF> QEMM Hmmm. I was once told NOT to run stealth on a BBS or it would actually slow down the BBS. If that has been remedied (or if it is false), I will re-optimize to free up more ram. Further, what's the latest version? I am running v7.02 here. Also, if there is later version is there a patch available to bring me up to date, or is it another 'fix' that we have to pay for? --jah ... Hard Work has a Future Payoff. Laziness Pays off Now. --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 625 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/27/94 10:42p Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MB> I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a MB> sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me. MB> What is the charge for adding this. Seems like I remember MB> something about $10 per MB> month? And what does that include? The filebone too? Hi, Mac. The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet Connect. --jah ... If we can send a man to the moon -- why not Bill Clinton? --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 626 To: JOE LYDA Date: 04/27/94 8:01a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hiya, Joe! JL> * WCE 1.5/2107 * DOS 6.0 $49 confirmation that you need a REAL DOS! Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! * OLX 2.1 * P.O. Box 87 Kingston Springs TN 37082 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Ham Radio & Genealogy (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 627 To: TIM KLAN Date: 04/28/94 2:20a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Sid Balcom, Tim Klan said: TK>Even with 16550 uart chips which correct most errors, planet connect TK>receives tons of errors in desqview ONLY when you're in another window TK>typing. If you start say, planet connect receive and 2 nodes TK>of a bbs reception will be fine. I had problems [running on a 386DX-40] when tossing mail in the other window also. Switching from "DV classic" to DV/X cured both problems. For reasons I don't really understand, PTCCMAIN appears to be much happier running under DV/X than DV-classic. Another thing....recently we've been getting a lot of stuff in with ZERO errors but "trashed".....needless to say, we've tried just about everything to fix this & have fine tuned the system to within an inch of its life! About the only time we miss anything now, it is weather related {we run a Ku system}. In order of importance, here's what we did: 1.- switched back to the 1128 version of PTCCMAIN [thanks Boyd]. 2.- run X00 _BEFORE_ going into DV 3.- make sure X00 _LOCKS_ the port settings of the PTCCMAIN port!!!!!!! 4.- switched to DV/X We tried all sorts of configs but settled on 1,2, & 4 above and were getting about 85% on the first pass. LOCKing the port setting in X00 bumped us up to about 99% !!! FYI: we are running two 486DX-33's and a 386DX-40 on an ethernet LAN with NDOS 7 and DV/X.....we are only using the LAN drivers from NDOS7 and allowing DV/X to provide the client/server software.....uses _LOTS_LESS memory that way! Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 628 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 04/29/94 8:41a Subj: Your name/node number Refer: 571 Read: NO Private: No -> I need the moderator of this echo's name and node number for a direct -> send. Tim Helton 11030 NW 26th Place Sunrise, FL 33322 Voice: 305-572-4848 Fax : 305-572-3454 BBS : 305-572-3456 FIDO : 1:369/41 tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 629 To: BOB MORTIMER Date: 04/29/94 8:46a Subj: account Refer: 590 Read: NO Private: No -> I sent this via RIME Planet Connect conference and in hopes of reachi As of yesterday, this echo is now being gated to RIME... tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER CONWAY Number: 630 To: ALL Date: 04/27/94 1:16p Subj: * InterNet * Usenet * Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No If you're calling a Commercial Internet Provider such as HoloNet(tm) to get or send mail for your BBS, then your paying WAY TOO MUCH. Getting your Mail from another BBS? Quit going through a middle-man, it's time to get your BBS a true Internet connection. Sysops looking for REAL access to the Internet, I invite you to freq the following file for complete information on how to get your system connected to the InterNet for a lot less than you think. Just some of the services we offer: UUCP, Domain Name Registration (Have your own REAL Internet Address such as anybbs.com ),E-mail, Newsgroups, FTP, Telenet, IRC, Gopher, Archie, WAIS, WWW, PING, , SLIP/PPP and more.... Freq: INTERUSE.ZIP OR Send Email to: Info@backdr.com From: 1:271/320 Have a question? Give us a call, 804-229-4484. Office hours are 9am-7pm EST. --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 631 To: BOB MORTIMER Date: 04/28/94 9:46a Subj: Re: account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's. Our caculations are not alway correct but the one that bob gave you is currect. Let me know on the next update and I will fix it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 632 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 04/28/94 9:49a Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per > month? And what does that include? The filebone too? That is correct. When you feed fido that also includes the file areas. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 633 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 04/28/94 9:51a Subj: Re: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have > seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error? Yes. Clari is a subscription service and we are trying to see what the cost would be. If it is a good price then we will carry them. I will be changing the PCUSENET.TXT file shortly to reflect exactly what we have going over. ....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 634 To: ED BOSTON Date: 04/28/94 9:53a Subj: Re: FidoNet replies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > know I would have to go through PC, but if I don't for the rest of the > conferences, I would rather advoid the LD costs. All relpies have to be sent to us to avoid a dupe problem. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 635 To: CHRIS VON MOTZ Date: 04/28/94 9:59a Subj: Re: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I see it here in San Jose , Ca. , and yes , I am on Sat. Hey Chris! .....Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 636 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 04/20/94 7:23p Subj: Newbie PC questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Replying to a message of Randy Edwards to All: RE> Turning to utilities, does anyone have a "Tick killer" utility? RE> What I'm looking for is for some utility that would automagically RE> examine the Tick files in a subdir and would kill off certain Don't know of any. But seems pretty simple to write. What's it worth$ to you.(G) RE> Also, do any of you OS/2 users have a recommendation for an OS/2 RE> AreaFix program? If so, I'd love to hear your I use Areafix for Os/2 here. Freqable as afp_130A.lzh. Later, Marty! --- FleetStreet 0.85wb * Origin: Programmers Connection OS/2 Longview, TX (903) 643-7607 (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 637 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 04/27/94 9:23a Subj: K12 Freeway? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dennis Powers to Mark Malacarne <=- Hey Dennis! DP> K12_Fwy.SOC.STUDIES Social Studies Classroom DP> K12_Fwy.SPANISH.CLAS Spanish Language Arts Classroom DP> K12_Fwy.SPEC.ED Compensatory Education: learning disabled, etc. DP> K12_Fwy.TAL&GIFTED Teaching Talented & Gifted Students -><-Dennis Thanks! Mark! ... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL! --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK MALACARNE Number: 638 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 04/27/94 4:08p Subj: K12 Freeway? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Tim Bellaart to Mark Malacarne <=- TB> Hello Mark! TB> 23 Apr 94, Mark Malacarne writes to All: TB> Here you go Mark. TB> Tim Thanks!! Mark! ... Drop Your DOS, We Have your Windows Surrounded... --- Cray Systems .002+ * Origin: -= TLOTL =- In The Rockies! (1:104/918) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 639 To: DON JOHNSON Date: 04/28/94 11:02a Subj: Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (27 Apr 94) Don Johnson wrote to Johnny Green... DJ> Well, since I really don't have access to a fax, is there a voice DJ> number? Sure,....615-623-8300 is the main number at the office. .....Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 640 To: DAVE POUNDS Date: 04/28/94 11:22a Subj: ibmNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (27 Apr 94) Dave Pounds wrote to Johnny Green... DP> well I was asking how I find the hard ware to connect my satellite DP> dish to my DP> computer I have seen the hard ware one time on the home shopping DP> network The system that you saw on Shop At Home, was our end-user system called SKYLINK. It uses a data-demodulator off of your currently existing C-band satellite system. The only mail that is transmitted on it is 50 echos from FIDO. DP> that way I can recive the nets over my dish If it is indeed the nets you are wanting, then you want our other service, PLANET CONNECT. If this is what you are wanting then all you need from us is the PC receiver which costs $ 299.00. This will connect to your dish and not require you to buy another dish unless you want to. Download or Freq PCINFO.TXT from our system,( 1:3615/50 ) , dload from 615-623-8111, and this file will cover the pricing and features of our system. We can also fax this info to you if you wish, (it's just too long to go over here, especially when most folks here already have one any way.) ......Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 641 To: SIKKO DE GRAAF Date: 04/28/94 1:06p Subj: Planet connect in Europe?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (26 Apr 94) Sikko De Graaf wrote to All... SD> Does anyone know if Planet connect will allready supprt Europe or is SD> going to support?.. SD> SD> greetings sikko de graaf Hello Sikki...!!! This is Johnny Green from Planet Connect. We are currently working on that feed and hope to have everything finalized here very soon. We are looking at different transponder options and the like to get the feed to you guys and gals over there. Be patient and we should be ready to go with in the next few months.,( it's real hard to give a more direct time table, with all the issues that have to be dealt with.) Good to hear from you ..!!! ...Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 642 To: EARL ALBIN Date: 04/28/94 1:12p Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (24 Apr 94) Earl Albin wrote to Rick Edwards... EA> I do not recall ever seeing a reply in this conference from anyone at EA> PC to a RIME only system! Would be a big help if we could get support EA> in here though. Not sure which actual feed you sent this through, but I see you here and would be glad to help any RIME folks that are interested. Just leave me msgs here and I will try my best. ....Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID COLEMAN Number: 643 To: ALL Date: 04/28/94 10:20p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am getting PLENTY of mail coming in and am sending one of those stupid "am I getting out" messages. More importantly, as this is my first message, and before I send any more, is this done right and if not what is wrong? Thanks, David * OLX 2.1 TD * Between two evils, pick the one you never tried before! --- QScan v1.062b * Origin: The Cotton Patch * Hollandale, MS * 601-827-2733 (1:368/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 644 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 04/28/94 3:09p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EH>*@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N EH>-> You've reached deep into the woods of Vermont's Northeast Kingdom just EH>fine. EH>-> You're getting out Kim. EH>I wish someone would tell ME that! (Even though my name aint Kim.) EH>From deepest South Texas, five miles from Mexico. Ok, Elvis, you're getting out... Hiya, from Tennessee, the "Mother" of Texas.... ;-) * OLX 2.1 * P.O. Box 87 Kingston Springs TN 37082 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Ham Radio & Genealogy (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 645 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 04/28/94 12:37p Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from 5-10 -> minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing. I'm I'm not sure which node I've been on but the times I've freq'd something from PC it always steps right up to a 1640-1650 cps rate. This has been at various times of day or night with v.32bis (USR dual).. Mike --- QScan v1.065b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe * 219-453-4046 * v32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 646 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 04/28/94 7:04p Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. > N >-> It worked Fine. Welcome! > Yeah, but I found out tonight that it both WENT, and > returned via landline, and > spent NO time on the bird. (Strangely enough we don't > get this echo off the > sat!) Hm.. That is strange - as I'm getting this echo from PC. No land-lines involved here, other than the one used to deliver this message to Planet Connect! :-) TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 647 To: BURT JUDA Date: 04/28/94 5:10p Subj: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Burt Juda wrote in a message to John Le Duc: BJ> John Le Duc writes: JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is JLD> the PCUSENET file in error? BJ> clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy. They can't send BJ> it thru the bird. Then I was correct, it is an error that they are listed in the current PCUSENET.TXT file? My downlinks are bugging me for an explination as to why PC claims to have them available, but there is no feed. I will have to feed them from my UUCP account, I guess. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 648 To: STEVE ADAIR Date: 04/28/94 5:00p Subj: SAT COMPUTER SHOW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Lightning??? You mean now I have to worry about lightning too?? I The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good voltage spike, even if the lightning hits only "close by". This spike can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps other connected equipment. They suggest that you install a lightning arrestor device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect folks or probably any local satellite dealer. Can't help you with your alarm problem, my 'C' band receiver doesn't have one. (I don't think it does, anyway) --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 649 To: BOB MORTIMER Date: 04/28/94 4:16p Subj: account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BM> I don't understand where I we are loosing all the day's. Not meaning to butt in here, but the same thing happened to me. I was told that they would make the difference up at the end of the sub. I lost 4 days when I renewed. If you look at 3 months vs. 1/4 year, PC is going to come out ahead. 12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 650 To: LORI SMITH Date: 04/28/94 4:27p Subj: Test Origin Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LS> Test message to see if origin line is appending MY net LS> address of 1:2255/60.... Thanks Guys! LS> +Lori+ LS> * OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee LS> --- GEcho 1.01+ LS> * Origin: OLX 2.1 * Member * Wildnet Steering Committee (1:2255/60) Looks ok here Lori. * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 651 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/28/94 9:24p Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BR} Hi, Dean... -> -> BR} I run exactly the same thing..... would one of those -> BR} "mysterious random problems" happen to have been the server -> BR} locking up as it starts to execute a program? for absolutely -> BR} no apparent reason? -> -> Yep, sounds familiar. Might do it today on the mailer, tomorrow -> on the BBS program, and next week on a door. Wait 2 weeks, then -> start hanging on the mail tosser. No logic at all to it. -> -> BR} mine will run for a week at a time, and just about the time -> BR} I think it is bullet-proof, the darn thing will lock up and -> BR} then might do it again several times in that day, only to -> BR} work fine for days more.... -> -> Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade -> to QEMM 7.03. I hope you find its the solution. You don't know how glad I am to hear someone else has had the same problem...... I have 7.03 coming and will keep my fingers crossed. thanks.... Bill... --- WM v3.11/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 652 To: ED FORTIN Date: 04/28/94 11:58a Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday April 26 1994, Ed Fortin writes to All: Hello Ed! EF> Has anyone been recieving mail in the hobbies echo. Although it's in the EF> list of echo's there seems to be NO Messages..? Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few weeks ago or more that the Hobbies echo doesn't ??want?? to be distributed by satellite Most rediculous if I may say so myself :) One has best double check that with Boyd though. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 653 To: ALL Date: 04/28/94 12:01a Subj: Rime network on line Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'd like to thank our Moderator Tim Helton for allowing me to gate this echo To<=>From the RIME network. Mark Adkins Blue Lake System's Sysop --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE UTICK Number: 654 To: RICK EDWARDS Date: 04/25/94 8:08p Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE=}Boy! RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too. I think I have only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had RIME up and running! Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this conference at all? As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from anyone there in here. Steve === * QMPro 1.52 * Ultimate office automation: Networked coffee machines! * The H.U.G.E. BBS - (406)227-8678 13+ GIGS of Shareware! * PostLink(tm) v1.20 HUGEBBS (#5528) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 655 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/28/94 3:50p Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JG> As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery, JG> or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES jobs Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group. Why just last week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the same time. :) The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! (206) 863-5877/939-7876 --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CRAIN Number: 656 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/27/94 7:24p Subj: Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 27, 1994, at 22:42, John Hrusovszky of 1:238/300@fidonet wrote: JH> I find it a bit trivial that someone thinks it is going to JH> 'hurt' them to route a netmail packet. After all, most of us I find it trivial, you find it trivial, but, there are those who will not route anything. We must conform, in this case, to the lowest common denominator and Policy 4. JH> is not charging by the second, but in x-second time slices, as JH> far as I know. In parts of minutes usually. It is conceivable that a netmail message or two could roll you cost into the next minute, half minute or whatever. GC>> Routing traffic through a node not obligated to perform GC>> routing without the permission of that node may be annoying GC>> behavior. This includes unsolicited echomail. JH> I've never personally seen this, so what exactly does routed JH> netmail look like to the node that it is being routed through? I don't know about you, but here, running Intermail, netmail looks just like netmail. I use MsgTrack to check on netmail going thru here and strip any bits that I will not honor, such as Crash, FileAttach, Direct, etc. JH> I have heard of instances where SysOps delete routed netmail (or JH> read it) when they see it, but I haven't for the life of me JH> figured out how in the heck they know it is there. In my case, it shows up in the netmail folder and is available to be read, at least until I send it on. I rarely look at any of it since I know that it's not for me and doesn't violate any of my standards. BTW, they are not supposed to delete netmail, if you know personally of anyone doing it you can make a hell of a case for a Policy Complaint, if you're so inclined. Netmail does have to be routed, but it should be returned from whence it originated. Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Rendezvous!! 28800/V.FC Bastrop, Tx [512-303-1324] (1:382/92) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 657 To: ALL Date: 04/28/94 11:40a Subj: Satellite Reciever For Sa Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No @SUBJECT:Satellite Reciever for Sale N Uniden 2200 Digital Readout, Variable audio control, Polarity control output and skew control, video invert switch, audio-video-baseband outputs. Dimensions: 13" W, 10" D, 3" H --------------------------------------------------------------- I purchased this little unit just a week ago and used it for the first BBS TV show and have not used it since.. it's brand new (only used once) and I'm looking to sell it since i just purchased a full satellite TV system and no longer have a use for it. I'm asking $100 + 10 S&H... I'm saving you $50 and for only having it be used once! All original packaging etc. still here ready to ship off to you. 701-775-5601 voice will accept VISA/MC.. 1:14/644 is my BBS node number. Here is what it sells for new: Uniden 2200 satellite receiver: NEW ($149.00 plus $10.00 S&H) --------------------------------------------------------------- --- QScan v1.071b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 658 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/28/94 8:33p Subj: Re: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to John Le Duc: > PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, however I have > seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is the PCUSENET file in error? BG> BG> Yes. Clari is a subscription service and we are trying BG> to see what the cost would be. If it is a good price then we BG> will carry them. I will be changing the PCUSENET.TXT file BG> shortly to reflect exactly what we have going over. BG> ....Boyd Great! My downlinks are giving me fits about the "old, outdated file" *I* keep using and want to know why *I'm* too lazy to get a new one <G>. A discription file would save me a lot of, "I don't know what that news group is." mesages. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 659 To: BILL ROPER Date: 04/30/94 12:09a Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BR} You don't know how glad I am to hear someone else has had BR} the same problem...... Probably about as glad as I was to stumble across the answer. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 660 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/29/94 11:33p Subj: Re: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH>Hmmm. I was once told NOT to run stealth on a BBS or it would actually JH>slow down the BBS. If that has been remedied (or if it is JH>false), I will re-optimize to free up more ram. I can't tell the difference [speedwise] on this 486DX-33 running two copies of RA plus a mailtoss window...between running stealth & no stealth. Tho I can see the difference in the available RAM. JH>Further, what's the latest version? I am running v7.02 here. JH>Also, if there is later version is there a patch available to bring me JH>up to date, or is it another 'fix' that we have to pay for? We are running QEMM v7.04 here & got it when we upgraded to DV/X V2.0; so I don't know if there is a patch and/or upgrade. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 661 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/29/94 9:54a Subj: Qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL>Based on your description, I would strongly recommend an upgrade DL>to QEMM 7.03. I hope you find its the solution. Hi, Dean! We installed v7.04 two, maybe three weeks ago... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Ham Radio & Genealogy (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 662 To: DAVID COLEMAN Date: 04/29/94 10:54p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DC>I am getting PLENTY of mail coming in and am sending one of those DC>stupid "am I getting out" messages. More importantly, as this is my DC>first message, and before I send any more, is this done right and if not DC>what is wrong? Methinks you've got it right, David. From middle Tennessee, Welcome! Foxy --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Ham Radio & Genealogy (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK VANHOOSER Number: 663 To: RICK EDWARDS Date: 04/27/94 4:04a Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been -> sending messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? Hello Rick, I think it is because we have moved everything in regards to PC to the ADMIN conference. Your message did get out. Rick === * Metroplex BBS - Memphis TN - (901)327-1895 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 METROPLX (#1786) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK VANHOOSER Number: 664 To: RAY SNOW Date: 04/27/94 4:09a Subj: Rime and pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Question: -> Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to its -> RIME file processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would -> eliminate some of the RIME leadership's concerns? Ray, in this message to Boyd, its more that 'RIME leadership's concerns'! I pay the bills for this end and have MANY! Rick === * Metroplex BBS - Memphis TN - (901)327-1895 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 METROPLX (#1786) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 665 To: RAY SNOW Date: 04/27/94 1:30p Subj: Rime and pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RS>Question: RS>Is PConn going to implement any changes in the next few weeks to RS>its RIME file processing and upfeeds to the satellite, that would RS>eliminate some of the RIME leadership's concerns? RS> Boyd has made it known that he might or might not be able to respond to mail to him, so let me 'unburden' the guy (inappreciation for all he and his people are doing to help us! ..Thanks, Boyd..) Now, to the point: Rime administration was/is concerned about what they perceive as unnecessarily long 'turn around times' and delays in getting mail distributed. The fact seems to be that if a hub is used to the quick net distribution character of hubs and nodes which historiclly transfer mail several times per day, then Yes, there is a slowdown... a slowdown which they perceive as intolerable. As I scan the commenting within Rime on this, there just have not been a great number of bbs's havingthis problem ..but those who do are big and important hub systems, and all the net suffers when they're not max'd out .. And yes, am happy to have read today that Rime admin and PC have gotten together and taken steps to understand the problem and to do something about it.. This includes PC recoding some ware (which will take some weeks) , and Rime doing several uploads to PC daily.. In turn, PC will add all new mail to 'later broadcasts' of that day's packets ... In other words, when new stuff is sent in to PC, they'll add it/update the packets immediately ... For a period of some weeks, they've agreed to a plan of coordinated actions that will help/cure the problem, ... I hope I've paraphrased satisfactorily what i recall of what i read.. And folks have asked that they not be unnecessarily bothered with tons of questions/complaints/etc until the solutions have a chance to work and/or be further modified... We should thank both parties for working together on this... === * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154Monkey in a blender: Rhesus Pieces? * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS VON MOTZ Number: 666 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 04/28/94 1:47p Subj: Planet connect conference Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Good show Mark , thanks. Its all here.Grin. Could you please leave me your voice Nr. so I can call you , and get the dope on Fido , as I have been planning to get on that for better than 2 years now , and its going to happen. I do have Intermail as Front , and it works well. I also have their tosser , so it seems to be a matter of getting the details worked out and GO Like Heck.Grin. Thanks and greetings, Chris. === * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.(408)294-3065,V.32bis.4 NODES * PostLink(tm) v1.20 REDBARON (#1077) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK EDWARDS Number: 667 To: STEVE UTICK Date: 04/28/94 8:18a Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SU>RE=}Boy! SU>RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sending > =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? SU>Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too. I think >I have only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had >RIME up and running! Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this >conference at all? As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from >anyone there in here. When this conference first started, one could almost count on at least 30 messages a day. The past couple of weeks.....nada. This morning, along with your message, there are 322 messages.....all in a 24 hour period. Something got "unstuck." regards.....<re> === * QMPro 1.50 41-9162 * Money Talks! Mine always says goodbye! * * The Holistic BBS * Cypress, CA * 714-995-3790 HST/DS * * PostLink(tm) v1.11 HOLISTIC (#88) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK EDWARDS Number: 668 To: RICK VANHOOSER Date: 04/28/94 8:19a Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RV>-> This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been >-> sending messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? >Hello Rick, I think it is because we have moved everything in regards to >PC to the ADMIN conference. Your message did get out. Why was it moved? .....<re> === * QMPro 1.50 41-9162 * Whatsa matter Colonel Sanders.......CHICKEN? * * The Holistic BBS * Cypress, CA * 714-995-3790 HST/DS * * PostLink(tm) v1.11 HOLISTIC (#88) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 669 To: CHRIS VON MOTZ Date: 04/29/94 10:50a Subj: Planet connect conference Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Could you please leave me your voice Nr. so I can call you , and get -> the dope on Fido , as I have been planning to get on that for better -> than 2 years now , and its going to happen. Sure will Chris. I'll R/O-R the number in NetAdmin. -> Thanks and greetings, Anytime and nice to have everyone here. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 670 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 04/29/94 2:38p Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mickey, What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not used DV since vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new application that requires DV and it's time to get the latest version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of two. Thanks, Mark --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 671 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 04/30/94 3:23a Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few weeks ago or >more that the Hobbies echo doesn't ??want?? to be distributed by satellite >Most rediculous if I may say so myself :) One has best double check that >with Boyd though. >Cheers, Ken Ken, I have to agree with you on that.... Is there any logic behind that decision? This doesn't mean we still can't have a HOBBIES echo does it... but only distributed by satellite.. 8-) Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK HOLT Number: 672 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 04/29/94 12:11a Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Russell Naber <04/25/94> Dean Lake wrote: DL> I've had some "mysterious random problems" disappear completely DL> since upgrading from QEMM 6.x to QEMM 7.03. 7.03 seems to be DL> rock solid. Works fine with or without stealth here. Tried it DL> both ways for 30 days each. Using it with DOS 5 and LANtastic 5. The 7.04 upgrade patch made a world of difference on my system and is no longer giving me the Exception Error 13 Messages. You may want to get a copy of it to try out. Till Later... Rick Holt * WCE 1.5/2193 * Eagles may fly but ferrets aren't sucked into jets. --- WM v3.11/93-0652 * Origin: Calvin's Lair -- 1-303-233-1386 (1:104/830.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL MCCABE Number: 673 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 04/29/94 4:08a Subj: Waffle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings Jerry! Wednesday April 27 1994 18:27, Jerry Scroggin wrote to Michael Mccabe: JS> ...here's how i got waffle to return to the bbs.. JS> hope it helps,,, That it did. Now it even works :) Later...MM... (mtm@gldncnty.omahug.org) ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! --- GoldED 2.42.G0214+\#23LM1 * Origin: Golden Country* on Bull Shoals Lake, Missouri (1:297/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN FLORY Number: 674 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 04/29/94 5:13a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off as there seemed to be some kind of a problem using the multitaskeing part on a macine doing comm work. What I had been told was that if you swapped windows during a dat transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors. Have you experienced anything of this nature? Later Ken --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: VETLink #13 Las Cruces NM (505)523-2811 (1:305/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 675 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 04/29/94 6:52a Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH|Hi, Mac. The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send |the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet |Connect. Thanks, John. I've forwarded the message along. Will let you guys know. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Hobbits Network with Tolkien Ring Adapters --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 676 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/29/94 4:03p Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG|> charge for adding this. Seems like I remember something about $10 per |> month? And what does that include? The filebone too? BG| That is correct. When you feed fido that also includes the file areas. Thanks, Boyd. I've passed the word along. Will let you know. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * U'NI Education Conference Hostess --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Number: 677 To: ALL Date: 04/29/94 1:01a Subj: Family Net Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the bird. I have not received anything for a while, and the filebone.na says that it is not on the sat. George --- WM v2.06/92-0050 * Origin: BBS, Leicester MASS (508) 892-8857 (1:322/605) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 678 To: N.L. HARGROVE Date: 04/28/94 3:14a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> The Digital Media Publisher -> N.L. (Jake) Hargrove -> ReaderSoft Software Well, dang Jake! Here you are too...... ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 679 To: DAVID COLEMAN Date: 04/29/94 7:19p Subj: Reply... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Test BY: David Coleman on Thu Apr 28 1994 10:20 pm Well, you made it here with no problem. Got your message just fine! Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! Rio Rancho, NM 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL MAGEORS Number: 680 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/29/94 8:44p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KB> Just testing my link. Please respond if you get this. Howdy! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: TCR'S Revenge (1:124/4218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 681 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 04/30/94 9:00a Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (28 Apr 94) Tim Fierro wrote to Johnny Green... TF> Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group. Why just last TF> week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the same TF> time. :) Now that sounds interesting,.....at the same time.!,... ....but not at the same place I bet,...<g>.... Yeah,.....was your doctor a lady,...?,..?!??!? ....Johnny ... Planet Systems Inc. (615) 623-8300 Voice (615) 623-8111 BBS --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 682 To: MIKE ATKINSON Date: 04/30/94 7:55a Subj: Clari News Groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike! MA> Ditto. I have a user who would like to have them. Same here! :) ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * My Heart is in the Heart of Di's Online Cafe.... --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe dibbs@dibbs.com (205) 661-8945 (1:3625/470.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 683 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 04/30/94 11:05p Subj: PC & DesqView Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Johnny Green, Tim Fierro said: TF>JG> As with not going to your auto mechanic for open-heart surgery, TF>JG> or to your dentist for a broken refrigerator,..these LADIES TF>jobs TF>Don't lumpo all mechanics together in a group. Why just last TF>week I had open-heart surgery and got a free lube job at the TF>same TF>time. :) I always thought that auto-mechanics ought to be paid better than medical doctors....after all medical doctors only have to learn to work on one make and two models! <G> [FYI: I am neither an auto-mechanic nor an MD.] --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 684 To: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Date: 05/01/94 2:10a Subj: Family Net Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, George Lafreniere said: GL> Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the GL>bird. Well, I keep having to delete them before compressing my disk. Guess I really ought to send them to NUL/, --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 685 To: RICK HOLT Date: 04/30/94 12:21p Subj: qemm Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH} The 7.04 upgrade patch made a world of difference on my system and is no RH} longer giving me the Exception Error 13 Messages. You may want to get a RH} copy of it to try out. Thanx. Just picked up the latest version from QEMM's BBS. QEMM upgrades, got em here for F'REQ: (1:232/30 or 1:232/46) 701to704.EXE - 271k 702to704.EXE - 217k 703to704.EXE - 191k Or call QEMM's BBS directly, at 310-314-3227 Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 686 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/30/94 3:39a Subj: Re: FidoNet replies Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> All relpies have to be sent to us to avoid a dupe problem. Ok. How do we avoid the ******ILLEGAL*******ILLEGAL*******ILLEGAL******** problem? <grin> Would you guys please install our session password (or whatever the heck is wrong) so we CAN send our replies to you! D-Bridge seems to think we've touched it in a tender place when we call. We sort of had INTERACTIVE Planet Connect in mind when we installed it. <grin> ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 687 To: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Date: 04/30/94 7:07p Subj: Family Net Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Lafreniere wrote in a message to All: GL> Does anyone know if Family net is still comming over the GL> bird. I have not received anything for a while, and the GL> filebone.na says that it is not on the sat. It's still being sent, but sometimes several days will go by without any bundles then you will get three or four days worth in one day. I think the FamilyNet heads are working at smoothing out the flow. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 688 To: MIKE ATKINSON Date: 04/30/94 8:01a Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA->I'm not sure which node I've been on but the times I've freq'd something fr MA->PC it always steps right up to a 1640-1650 cps rate. This has been at vari MA->times of day or night with v.32bis (USR dual).. Dual here as well as I stated, and the same thing happened last night. I believe I'm getting on the first node, but not sure about that. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 689 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 04/28/94 11:18p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and -> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! How much did the upgrade cost? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BARR Number: 690 To: ALL Date: 04/30/94 7:38p Subj: RA/FD/TICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am running RA V2.0/pro with FD 2.20 Commercial Verion & Tick. My problem is I am hubing some file areas that I get from the FDN's. I cannot however figure out how to have Tick set the messages (containing the .TIC info) as KILL/SENT. That way after FD sends the message with the file attach, that it will delete the attached files...since I no longer need them. The only way I can figure out how to do it, is to manually go into Frontdoor's FM and change the status to KILL/SENT. Is there any way that I am missing to automatically set the message as KILL/SENT? Gary --- * Origin: **Digicom BBS** 812-479-1310 USR 16.8K, Evansville,IN (1:2310/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON MALONE Number: 691 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 04/30/94 9:17a Subj: Planet Connect Network! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Johnny! So, when are we going to start ramping up on Planet Connect's Network? I'd love to help with managing that! By the time we get our buddies across the pond hooked in to the system could be well on our way to building the network.... What do I need to do to get started on it!?! :) <Big Old Grin> Gordon --- PCB15.1/Gecho 1.02+ * Origin: RDL - Baltimore's 1st PC Satellite System 410-866-4554 (1:13/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 692 To: ALL Date: 05/01/94 6:57a Subj: Usenet Groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I am running a board here in the heart of Arkansas, and I am considering going ahead and running with the Usenet groups! What I want to know is, What software will I need? I use Remote Access 2.01+, FrontDoor 2.12+, GEcho 1.02+, Allfix 4.20 /gamma 4+, and OS/2 2.1... I am fairly knowledgeable about my Fido setup, but what tosser, etc would I need for Usenet?? Also, is it read only, or can I send back replies, and get them answered quickly?? I know that through a university in another town (Long Distance unfortunately:), they can send out a message, and have it back within a few hours! What can I expect with PC's Usenet?? Also, is there a "FIDONET.NA" listing for Usenet, or something that lists "echoes"?? If you know the answer to some of these, please give me whatever input you can! I want to hear from people who actually have this working, cause I want to offer my users Usenet and Fido, so we will have the best of both! Thanks in advance! Chris --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower o' Hi' Sorcery - Conway, AR - up to 28.8! (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 693 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/01/94 7:09a Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chuck! Thursday April 28 1994 12:37, Mike Atkinson wrote to Chuck Warren: ->> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes ->> anywhere from 5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of ->> data flowing. I'm Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates with my 14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's! If you make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8! Chris --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower o' Hi' Sorcery - Conway, AR - up to 28.8! (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 694 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 05/01/94 7:15a Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! Friday April 29 1994 14:38, Mark Adkins wrote to Mickey Ferguson: MA> Hello Mickey, MA> What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not MA> used DV since vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new MA> application that requires DV and it's time to get the latest MA> version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of two. DESQview/X is the GRAPHICAL version of DESQview, and it comes with QEMM, where regular DESQview doesn't necessary, unless you buy them together, recommended! I have ran both, and DESQview seems to be the overall better package, because it IS NOT graphical, and therefore runs a little faster! Also, regular DESQview is half the price of /X! Hope this helps, and sorry to but in! Chris --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower o' Hi' Sorcery - Conway, AR - up to 28.8! (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY RYNO Number: 695 To: GARY BARR Date: 05/01/94 1:33p Subj: RA/FD/TICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gary - > I cannot however figure out how to have Tick set the > messages (containing the .TIC info) as KILL/SENT. That way > after FD sends the message with the file attach, that it will > delete the attached files...since I no longer need them. I'm afraid you're confused. The kill/sent attribute won't do anything to files attached to a message. It will cause the *message* itself to be deleted after it's sent; any files that were attached will be left alone. FM also supports the del/sent flag, which *will* cause any files attached to a message to be deleted after they're sent. Del/sent and kill/sent in combination will delete both the .msg and any attached files. Unfortunately, Tick doesn't have del/sent capability. If even Tick did support that flag, there's a serious problem using this particular technique, however: if you happen to be routing the same file to more than one downlink, the first time you transmit it, del/sent will delete it, and any other downlinks won't get it at all; just a null file attach message with nothing actually attached to it. > Is there any way that I am missing to automatically set the message as > KILL/SENT? Tick is a good program, but by contemporary standards it's become dated and very limited compared to some of its alternatives. Frankly, I'd suggest that you just switch to Allfix and be done with it. Speaking as a veteran of several years on the Tick beta team, Allfix is a far superior and more capable program in every respect. It'll solve this particular problem for you, and dozens of others you may not have encountered yet. Most importantly, it will integrate easily and seamlessly into your FD/RA system, and give you a ton of nifty features and advanced capabilities that you don't currently have. If you'd like, you're welcome to FReq AFIX420E.ZIP from me at 1:202/302, anytime but ZMH. - Gary --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Gandalf's - San Diego, Ca - USR DS - 619-466-9505 (1:202/302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 696 To: KEN FLORY Date: 04/30/94 11:05a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards -> FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! -> -> This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off as there -> to be some kind of a problem using the multitaskeing part on a macine -> comm work. What I had been told was that if you swapped windows durin -> transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors. Have you -> experienced anything of this nature? -> -> Later -> Ken -> -> Sorry to butt in here, but you guys seem to know what you are doing. I am new to Planet Connect and wanted to know a few things. 1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66 with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram. Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get tossed just dumped into the trash can? Bill Starr, Sysop, United We Stand America BBS --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0313] * Origin: United We Stand America (602)459-0013 (1:309/51) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 697 To: GORDON MALONE Date: 05/01/94 11:30a Subj: Planet Connect Network! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (30 Apr 94) Gordon Malone wrote to Johnny Green... GM> So, when are we going to start ramping up on Planet Connect's Network? GM> I'd love to help with managing that! By the time we get our buddies GM> across the pond hooked in to the system could be well on our way to GM> building the network.... Lots to do on our end first, the transponders will be the first step, and Joe is already working on that. There are so many options that each one must be weighed out accordingly. We will be sure to keep everyone updated. ... Planet Systems Inc. (615) 623-8300 Voice (615) 623-8111 BBS --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems / Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 698 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 05/01/94 1:58p Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA>What's the difference between DV-Classic and DV/X? I have not MA>used DV since vr2.3 and I'm a bit out of touch. I have a new MA>application that requires DV and it's time to get the latest MA>version. I'd rather buy just 1 program instead of two. Well, DV-Classic is the DV you're accustomed to. I believe it is up to version 2.6? these days. DV/X is an X-windows server/client with a much more pleasing user interface. Plain old DV is rather LAN dumb while DV/X is designed to wring every bit of performance it can from a LAN. DV/X is also better at high speed serial I/O. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 699 To: KEN FLORY Date: 05/02/94 2:38a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Foxy Ferguson, Ken Flory said: KF> FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and KF> FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! KF>This is a route I was wanting to go, but had been warned off KF>as there seemed to be some kind of a problem using the KF>multitaskeing part on a macine doing comm work. What I had KF>been told was that if you swapped windows during a dat KF>transfer you will either hang the transfer or cause errors. KF>Have you experienced anything of this nature? I don't think that Foxy has answered, but we were previously running regular DV on the machine and whenever we tossed mail in the other window, we got errors in the PC window. With DVX that doesn't happen. Also, we toss the mail on another machine & pulling a few meg of mail bundles while the mail is still coming in does _not_ cause errors in the current file. I hope this answers your questions. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 700 To: KEN FLORY Date: 05/02/94 2:40a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My previous reply is a bit confusing...at least to me...so I thought I'd add this.... We toss the mail from the bird on another machine, but we toss the replys back to Planet Connect on the machine running the PTCCMAIN program. In other words, the incoming mail is tossed on one machine while the outgoing mail is tossed on another. So the machine running PTCCMAIN does toss mail. <G> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 701 To: STEVE ADAIR Date: 04/29/94 8:41p Subj: Another Link test <g> Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Steve! Tuesday April 26 1994 22:56, Steve Adair wrote to All: SA> Hi Folks, SA> Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our SA> return links onto the Satellite. Anybody hear me?? Thanks! Yes we hear you accross town <G> SA> Oh.. one quick question. When I send my replies to Planet SA> Connect I know that it should go to the Satellite, but does it SA> also go to the rest of Fido that is NOT hooked onto the bird?? Yes it does.... Thank you, Brian --- GED 2.42.G0214+ 65LM3 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN SHORT Number: 702 To: ALL Date: 04/28/94 5:13p Subj: Need idea's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band wagon...I was holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been told they are having probs with the new dongle, they are beta testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my OS/2 bbs machine...IE what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A way of telling my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY other info you think is helpful....Thanks in advance... Have a gooder. Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido --- Synchronet * Origin: Digital Online Connection (403)548-0022 (1:134/3200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC KRICHBAUM Number: 703 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 05/01/94 12:41p Subj: Re: Satellite Reciever For Sa Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 28 Apr 94 11:40:00, John Lundell muttered something to All. JL> @SUBJECT:Satellite Reciever for Sale N JL> Uniden 2200 JL> Digital Readout, Variable audio control, Polarity control output and JL> skew control, video invert switch, audio-video-baseband outputs. JL> Dimensions: 13" W, 10" D, 3" H JL> --------------------------------------------------------------- JL> I purchased this little unit just a week ago and used it for the first BBS JL> show and have not used it since.. it's brand new (only used once) and I'm JL> looking to sell it since i just purchased a full satellite TV system and no JL> longer have a use for it. I'm asking $100 + 10 S&H... I'm saving you $50 a JL> for only having it be used once! All original packaging etc. still here re JL> to ship off to you. 701-775-5601 voice will accept VISA/MC.. 1:14/644 is JL> BBS node number. JL> JL> Here is what it sells for new: JL> JL> Uniden 2200 satellite receiver: NEW ($149.00 plus $10.00 S&H) Is this the Ku band or C band receiver? Eric --- * Origin: The Tek Room Node 1 (304)292-4744 (1:277/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURT JUDA Number: 704 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 05/01/94 8:44a Subj: clari news groups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Le Duc writes: JLD> PCUSENET.TXT lista the clari newsgroups as being active, JLD> however I have seen no traffic from any of these groups. Is JLD> the PCUSENET file in error? BJ> clari.* is a Paid subscription hierarchy. They can't send BJ> it thru the bird. JLD> Then I was correct, it is an error that they are listed in JLD> the current PCUSENET.TXT file? My downlinks are bugging me JLD> for an explination as to why PC claims to have them JLD> available, but there is no feed. I will have to feed them JLD> from my UUCP account, I guess. In which case your feed would be in violation of their contract with CLARInet. --- timEd 1.00 * Origin: Merlin's Castle BBS, Edison, NJ (1:107/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 705 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 05/01/94 10:10p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Saturday April 30 1994, Dave Petrucci writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Dave! DP> I have to agree with you on that.... Is there any logic DP> behind that decision? DP> This doesn't mean we still can't have a HOBBIES echo DP> does it... but only distributed by satellite.. 8-) you can get it..of course..but not from PC. shrug...silly is all I can say. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 706 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 05/01/94 10:12p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Saturday April 30 1994, Randy Edwards writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Randy! RE> Yes, I'd agree. There are plenty of echo moderators who want to keep a RE> tight control on their echos, and many of them with good reason (for RE> example, an echo for recovering alcoholics might want to double-ensure RE> that twits aren't filling the echo with the joys of drinking). yup..which Is why private "Recovery-Nets" come into being <smile> RE> But the traditional way that these echos are dealt with is that they're RE> removed from the backbone. Putting an echo on the backbone is, IMHO, RE> pretty much an agreement that you're willing to let anyone link into it by RE> default and will only "cull" the problem nodes when/if they become RE> problems. . no argument :) so i still don't see how an echo about HOBBIES??? can have an ego about not getting as much exposure. (The only reason this is an issue is cuz one of my downlinks is questioning me "Aren't we getting it from the satellite??" <grin> Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 707 To: STEVE UTICK Date: 04/29/94 11:29a Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (25 Apr 94) Steve Utick wrote to Rick Edwards... SU> Do you know if Planet Connect even SU> monitors this conference at all? As far as I know, I haven't seen any SU> messages from anyone there in here. SU> * The H.U.G.E. BBS - (406)227-8678 13+ GIGS of Shareware! SU> * PostLink(tm) v1.20 HUGEBBS (#5528) : RelayNet(tm) Looks like the gate that was setup nows has the RIME stuff echo'd here, so have at it, let us know what we can do,.and WELCOME..!! ....Johnny ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 708 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/02/94 11:55a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to KEN FLORY <04-30-94 11:05> BILL STARR wrote: BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board needs from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know. Regards, Jack --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 709 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/02/94 7:58p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 30 11:05 94, BILL STARR of 1:309/51 wrote: BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? This, of course, depends on your echomail processor. You could make your bad message directory a NUL device so that they're not saved. For me, what I do is have every single one of those echos defined in my echomail processor's config file, but I make them 'pass-through' areas so no messages are saved if I don't want them. Except for the small dupe-checking file that most echomail processors create, it doesn't cost me much disk space and yet it still allows others to link into them if they want them. . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet edwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: Socialism OnLine! * 28.8k V.FC and Planet Connected * (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 710 To: KEN SHORT Date: 05/02/94 8:02p Subj: Need idea's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Apr 28 17:13 94, Ken Short of 1:134/3200 wrote: KS> testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i need some idea's on what i should KS> do to hook a dos box to my OS/2 bbs machine...IE what is a good package KS> to hook the 2 machines... Unless you're eager to spend money :-) the cheapest way to do it is to simply use a null modem between the two machines and to run a comm program on each end to send and recieve the files. At about $5 for a serial cable, the null modem's by far the cheapest way to go. As far as other things to worry about, grab a copy of PCFU from your \SkyData\Personal directory and set it up. It's worth its weight in gold. It'll keep you from going insane worrying about dupes and files that don't have *.TICs and such. A very nifty program! . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet edwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: Socialism OnLine! * 28.8k V.FC and Planet Connected * (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ADAIR Number: 711 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 05/02/94 9:09p Subj: re: Another Link test <g> Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <<Quoting: BRIAN HESS To: STEVE ADAIR >> BH> Hello Steve! BH> Tuesday April 26 1994 22:56, Steve Adair wrote to All: BH> SA> Hi Folks, BH> SA> Well this seems to be the place for all us newbies to test our BH> SA> return links onto the Satellite. Anybody hear me?? Thanks! BH>Yes we hear you accross town <G> Hi Brian, Yes, my message had to go 52,000+ miles just to go across the street <g>. Thanks for the reply. BH> * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) God bless. In Christ, Steve <steve.adair@firehouse.org> ========================================================================== Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822 FamilyNet 8:1011/0 jude23@firehouse.org "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23) ========================================================================== --- WM v3.10/93-0610 * Origin: Greenville, Sc FamlyNet Backbone (803)-322-6822 (1:3639/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 712 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/02/94 4:44p Subj: unused echomail msgs w/WildCat Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BS} 1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the BS} second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66 BS} with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram. BS} Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on BS} my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? BS} Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get BS} tossed just dumped into the trash can? One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS. Set the echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding nodes. In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo you don't want should read: P <ECHO NAME> 1:3615/50 You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the only connected system is Planet Connect. You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably save you some typing that way. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Number: 713 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 05/02/94 8:30a Subj: Family Net Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It's still being sent, but sometimes several days will go by without -> bundles then you will get three or four days worth in one day. I thi -> FamilyNet heads are working at smoothing out the flow. Yes! Your right, I got more than a weeks worth a couple of days ago. I was getting concerned because the filebone.na lists them as not being on the sat at all. Everything is still relatively new so it takes a little time. Thanks for the reply. George --- WM v2.06/92-0050 * Origin: BBS, Leicester MASS (508) 892-8857 (1:322/605) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 714 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 05/02/94 12:07p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL>-> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and TL>-> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! TL> How much did the upgrade cost? Yo, Tim! The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal Netware software installable for all three machines. We upgraded from DesqView "classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and worth *every* penny for both! Cheers, Foxy. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Ham Radio & Genealogy (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 715 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 05/02/94 11:52p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Tim Lajoie, Foxy Ferguson said: FF>TL> How much did the upgrade cost? FF>The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal FF>Netware BZZZZZT! It actually cost $78 at Franklin Micro. The list price is $99. FF>We upgraded from DesqView FF>"classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and Wrong again, love. We upgraded from DV 2.6 <G> FF>worth *every* penny for both! I'll second that! The Planet Connect software is _mucho_ happier running under DV/X than under DV ! And DV/X is its own server & hooks into the Novell IPX/ODI drivers. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 716 To: N.L. HARGROVE Date: 05/01/94 11:46p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> Anyway how's things there, lots of mail. Well, things here is confused! We've been on the bird for two months and STILL haven't gotten our "outgoing" back to /50 to work. As of this weekend several of the local sysops have spent practically every afternoon browbeating the hub machines into working. So far no joy. Even when we 'force' a connect /50 won't talk to us. Ah, the joys of FIDO! ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM TCIMPIDIS Number: 717 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 04/29/94 10:18a Subj: Big files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BGThere were a few Big files that went over the sat Sunday. If you never BGgot them then I have them here for file request. The CTM0005.ZIP BGfile is not going over the sat since it is over 2 megs and you BGcan get it from here. Huh? Big files are what the satellite is best at (cost-wise). Why don't you send them that way? === * QMPro 1.52 * MOG-UR'S EMS * Internet: sysop@mogur.com * * The MOG-UR'S EMS * Granada Hills, CA * 818-366-1238/8929 * 21.6K D/S * PostLink(tm) v1.20 MOGUR (#323) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM TCIMPIDIS Number: 718 To: KIM BERGMAN Date: 04/29/94 10:22a Subj: Dongle and os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have cracked the KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using your product in KBan "irregular" (don't want to say "illegal" <g>) way. We KBfurther speculate that Planet Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as long as these hackers pay for the KBservice they get (the only decent thing to do) and don't pass KBthe hack on to other people. And that is why we haven't heard I can't go into specifics but I know this to be true. KBthat almost 1/3 of your subscribers are OS/2 users. Do you KBreally have that many OS/2 users signed up? And is there a KBnative OS/2 version under development? Any tentative release date? I'm both a Dos/DV and an OS/2 user myself. I'd very much welcome a "sanctioned" OS/2 version as well as a much better Desqview version. === * QMPro 1.52 * MOG-UR'S EMS * L.A., CA * 818-366-1238/8929 * 21.6K D/S * * The MOG-UR'S EMS * Granada Hills, CA * 818-366-1238/8929 * 21.6K D/S * PostLink(tm) v1.20 MOGUR (#323) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM TCIMPIDIS Number: 719 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 04/29/94 10:29a Subj: Re: need a guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB DL>version 4 is going into Beta test shortly. I understand that JB DL>WC's version 4 message base file structure has changed radically. JBKnow if they are going to release the specs? The new file and record structures have already been released. Basically, they went from a database based message system to a flat file based message system. === * QMPro 1.52 * MOG-UR'S EMS * Internet: sysop@mogur.com * * The MOG-UR'S EMS * Granada Hills, CA * 818-366-1238/8929 * 21.6K D/S * PostLink(tm) v1.20 MOGUR (#323) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 720 To: CHRIS BATES Date: 05/01/94 9:46p Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> recommended! I have ran both, and DESQview seems to be the -> overall better package, because it IS NOT graphical, and -> therefore runs a little faster! Also, regular DESQview is half the -> price of /X! Hope this helps, and sorry to but in! Thanks a lot for the information. I need the speed more than the graphics. Mark --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY SNOW Number: 721 To: JON ANDERSON Date: 04/30/94 7:46p Subj: Rime and pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JA>This includes PC recoding some ware (which will take some weeks) , an JA>Rime doing several uploads to PC daily.. In turn, PC will add all new JA>mail to 'later broadcasts' of that day's packets ... In other words, JA>when new stuff is sent in to PC, they'll add it/update the packets JA>immediately ... For a period of some weeks, they've agreed to a plan JA>of coordinated actions that will help/cure the problem, ... JA>I hope I've paraphrased satisfactorily what i recall of what i read.. From what I just read also, that probably says it pretty much in a nutshell. JA>We should thank both parties for working together on this... Yes! I definitely agree. === * SLMR 2.1a * Stormtroopers can't hit a barn door at this dis.... * Rocky Mountain Software Salt Lake City, Ut 801-963-8721 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 ROCKYMTN (#1384) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE UTICK Number: 722 To: RICK EDWARDS Date: 04/30/94 8:10p Subj: Quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE=}SU>RE=}This conference has been awfully quiet lately. Has no one been sendi =} > =}messages or is the config messed up at the BBS I call? RE=}SU>Well, if it is messed up on yours, it is messed up on mine too. I think =} >I have only seen about 10 messages in here in the two weeks I have had =} >RIME up and running! Do you know if Planet Connect even monitors this =} >conference at all? As far as I know, I haven't seen any messages from =} >anyone there in here. RE=}When this conference first started, one could almost count on at least =}30 messages a day. The past couple of weeks.....nada. This morning, =}along with your message, there are 322 messages.....all in a 24 hour =}period. RE=}Something got "unstuck." Actually, no. I heard what happened the other day. Someone was bridging this conference over to another network, and the Net coordinator changed. He hadn't gotten permission from them to continue bridging the conference till the other day. Steve === * QMPro 1.52 * DSZ speed 300 ha ha ha tee hee hee rz -ZZZZZZZZ * The H.U.G.E. BBS - (406)227-8678 13+ GIGS - Helena, MT * PostLink(tm) v1.20 HUGEBBS (#5528) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 8 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 723 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/02/94 3:36p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! BS> 1st - I am runnig Wildcat 3.90Multinode but only one active node and the BS> second is a local. Use Front Door and GoMail as tosser. 486/66 BS> with 2 gig h/d and 16meg ram. BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? BS> Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get BS> tossed just dumped into the trash can? Bill you need areafix and let it auto create new echo's in your areas.bbs file. Or you could take all the Fidonet.na, Fidonet.no, K12frwy listings and put all them in the areas.bbs file like this. P Unwanted_AREA_NAME 1:3615/50 P Unwanted_Area_Name 1:3615/50 2 Area_mane_you_want 1:3615/50 Etc. If you like I will zip up a complete areas.bbs and Areafix that I use and you can freq it along with a sample batch file to run FD, Gomail and Areafix as I have the same setup running here. Another option would be call Mike Ortez BBS (The Software Connection) and look for the Gomail.exe made for Planet Connect that auto vaporizes them. Haven't use that copy of gomail but Mike added code to auto trashcan the unwanted stuff in the same way it trascan's dup messages if you togle that option to not keep them. Keep you orgional copy of gomail though as you might need it and go the route I have taken with areafix. I prefer using areafix because I can simply replace the "P" with a area number and turn on or off echo's at will without looking up the area names and typing them in here plus areafix allows local nodes to turn on or off at will the areas they want also without my intervention in any way since I hub out to the rest of the net here. Joe PS Let me know if you want the setup I am using and I will make it freq availible. * WCE 1.5/2107 * Is this yours? Your dog left it on my lawn ... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SIKKO DE GRAAF Number: 724 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 05/01/94 11:50a Subj: Planet connect in Europe?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hello johnny thanks for your information Can you give me your company voice nr: so we can call you for some more information and questions?.. greetings Sikko de Graaf --- FMail 0.90 * Origin: Nurse Net Nederland. +31-10-4101933 (2:512/184) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 725 To: CHRIS BATES Date: 05/02/94 7:12a Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CB->Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates wit CB->14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's! If CB->make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8! Which brand/model is this you're using? Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE HANNAH Number: 726 To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 05/02/94 12:43p Subj: Re: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jeff Cutler to John Little <=- JC> Here in region 12 there was a big brawl over that discusion. From JC> what I could see the agreement was NEC's are responsible for inbound JC> netmail coming to me, but he/she is not have to route my outbound That's right, only it's the NC. The NEC isn't really mentioned in policy, except to say that there is an echomail policy document covering the duties of *ECs. If you really want to route outbound netmail, you can route through your regional, at a cost of only a few cents a week. In fact, if there are others in your net that the NC won't route for, you can also route their mail and share the cost. ... Inflation is a result of legalized counterfeiting. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Prophecy BBS [ITCNet NB Hub] (506)652-7292 (1:255/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 727 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 05/03/94 5:39a Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well, DV-Classic is the DV you're accustomed to. I believe it is up -> to version 2.6? these days. DV/X is an X-windows server/client with -> a much more pleasing user interface. Plain old DV is rather LAN dumb -> while DV/X is designed to wring every bit of performance it can from -> a LAN. DV/X is also better at high speed serial I/O. I'm running LANtastic 5.0 on Intel Ethernet Express16 cards, 5 nodes. I'm going to be upgrading to LANtastic 6.0. I've tried DV 2.6? and things seemed a bit slow. Would DV/X speed things up? I'm working on a project that will be on a 486DX2 66 VESA with an 8 port Arnet card and six nodes running PCBoard. I'll need Desqview to manage this. I've run four nodes on one machine with Desqview but never 6. I was told by a few that it won't work, DOS can't seem to handle more than four comm sessions at one time. Would you (or anyone else reading this) know anything about this? I could go OS/2 and run PCBoard as a DOS Session but I don't think this would be much difference than non-OS/2 because it's still a DOS session. Thank for the info that you supplyed Mickey, Mark --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS VON MOTZ Number: 728 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/02/94 9:32a Subj: Re: quiet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Its all working fine here Boyd , Thanks for th confirm. Be on FIDO soon , have the front-end up and running now for tests around the clock , and the rest will follow soon. TTYL, Chris. === * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.(408)294-3065,V.32bis.4 NODES * PostLink(tm) v1.20 REDBARON (#1077) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS VON MOTZ Number: 729 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 05/02/94 9:43a Subj: Planet connect conference Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Sure will Chris. I'll R/O-R the number in NetAdmin. Thanks Mark , I got it and will call Ya soon. The mailer is up and running fine for tests , and the rest will follow soon now. -> Anytime and nice to have everyone here. Well ,this is the place where the forerunners of tech. meet. And also the headquarters from the ANTI-AT&T LD Guerilla army. Grin. Thanks for your post. Chris. === * The Flying Dutchman,San Jose,Ca.(408)294-3065,V.32bis.4 NODES * PostLink(tm) v1.20 REDBARON (#1077) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE GORDON Number: 730 To: ALL Date: 04/29/94 6:47p Subj: Mexico - contacts needed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am a business professional in New York and am expanding a division of the fastest U.S. growth company this decade into Mexico with various product lines including personal and health care. High residual income opportunity for individuals with strong contacts in Mexico. For more information call 800-546-0177 (USA only) or reply via E-MAIL to JCIMARKTNG@aol.com (this is not AMWAY). === * CyberBoard - Communication Service; Rye Brook, NY (914)934-8125 * PostLink(tm) v1.11 CYBERBOARD (#5373) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 731 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/01/94 11:30a Subj: Os/2 dongle progress?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd ..have been encouraged by notices of beta for os/2 ... any progress?? the dish is still in the box, where it's been since it arrived months ago... jon ___ * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154 === * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 732 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 05/03/94 3:34p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The Novell DOS 7 purchase was $99 and included the Personal Netware -> software installable for all three machines. We upgraded from DesqVie -> "classic" 1.something to DESQview/X v2.0 for $150... and worth *every -> penny for both! Thanks Foxy. I have a bouht and paid for version of BOTH DV 386 and DVX, so I was hoping to find out the price to upgrade from my old DVX to the new DVX 2.0. Any idea? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, tim.lajoie@csrnet-bbs.com SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 733 To: GARY RYNO Date: 05/03/94 5:15a Subj: RA/FD/TICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Is there any way that I am missing to automatically set the message as >> KILL/SENT? > Tick is a good program, but by contemporary standards it's become dated > and very limited compared to some of its alternatives. Frankly, I'd > suggest that you just switch to Allfix and be done with it. Speaking as > a veteran of several years on the Tick beta team, Allfix is a far > superior and more capable program in every respect. In your TIC.CFG MAILERKILLS will make the mailer kill the files when no longer needed. any message generated by TICK defaults to the KILL/SENT flag, tho you can put the crash on it if you wish.. --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSS GOFF Number: 734 To: Date: 05/03/94 9:19a Subj: Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- DB 1.58/001939 * Origin: THE FAMILy TREE - HST - 1-405-321-0642 (147/32) (1:147/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 735 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 05/03/94 6:23p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ken Kavanagh to Dave Petrucci <=- KK> you can get it..of course..but not from PC. shrug...silly is all I KK> can say. I'm getting it from PC! It's in the FamilyNet mail bundles. -=- Craig. ... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 736 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 05/03/94 9:39p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Apr 30 07:33>, Randy Edwards of 1:325/806 writes: KK> Boyd may wish to clairify but I do beleive it was stated a few KK> weeks ago or more that the Hobbies echo doesn't ??want?? to be KK> distributed by satellite Most rediculous if I may say so myself :) KK> RE> Yes, I'd agree. There are plenty of echo moderators who want to keep RE> a tight control on their echos, and many of them with good reason (for RE> example, an echo for recovering alcoholics might want to double-ensure RE> that twits aren't filling the echo with the joys of drinking). RE> But the traditional way that these echos are dealt with is that RE> they're removed from the backbone. Putting an echo on the backbone is, RE> IMHO, pretty much an agreement that you're willing to let anyone link RE> into it by default and will only "cull" the problem nodes when/if they RE> become problems. Not having the HOBBIES echo distributed in the FidoNet mail packets over the satellite was not the decision of the HOBBIES echo moderator. The HOBBIES echo moderator is Harvey Smith, 1:100/519 who is dual-netted in FamilyNet. The HOBBIES echo is a FamilyNet echo, and is gated to FidoNet by Bob Hoffman, the FamilyNet head. Bob Hoffman requested John Souvestre at 1:396/1, the Southern Star, not to send the HOBBIES traffic in FidoNet to Planet Systems uplink node, 1:3615/50 since the HOBBIES echo is already distributed over the satellite in the FamilyNet QWK mail packets. Hoffman also requested Planet Systems not to distribute or accept traffic in the HOBBIES echo except in those FamilyNet QWK mail packets. When Harvey Smith, the moderator of HOBBIES, was apprised of Hoffman's decision, he was NOT happy. In effect, Hoffman's decision removed the HOBBIES echo from five nodes in Harvey's own FidoNet Net, Net 100, since Net 100 now gets is traffic via Planet Connect. The only way those Net 100 addresses can get traffic on the FidoNet side in the HOBBIES echo is to call via long distance telephone line to a Region 14 Echomail Hub that gets its traffic via landline and pick up the traffic (and deliver outgoing via the same method). That is unacceptable to them, and as NEC for Net 100, having to call a Region 14 echomail hub long distance to pickup and deliver traffic in HOBBIES is also unacceptable to me and counter to the reason we in Net 100 went to Planet Connect to begin with. In the last correspondence I had with Harvey Smith about the situation, Harvey was considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of FamilyNet and making it a FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its traffic again appearing over the satellite. Ah....the games people play.... :-) Bill, N100EC --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 737 To: JACK WILLIAMS Date: 05/03/94 6:10p Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> In a message to KEN FLORY <04-30-94 11:05> BILL STARR wrote: -> -> BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitze -> BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? -> -> Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board -> from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know. -> -> Regards, Jack -> Jack, I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a 486/66 with a 2 gig hard drive and 16 meg ram. I also have a 256 cache. The 2 gig hard drive is divided into 2 1 gig drives. I run front door 2.02 and gomail as a tosser into Wildcat 3.90 multinode. I am using node 1 as the BBS and have node 2 netted into a 386/40 with a 375m hard drive as a local. When I get the mail I usually manually copy from C:\bridge\files to D:\fidohold. Then I have to copy back 2 files at a time into the C:\bridge\files area to gomail toss. This is very time consuming. Any help, being only on the computer since late 1992 and still learning, would really be appreciated. Bill P.S. I noticed today (3 May) that the bird took lots of hits on the 2nd go around. I was watching the visual on the channel (Shop at Home) and saw them and run to the computer and sure enough the packet that was coming in had a TCB. Must be a better satellite to use. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0313] * Origin: United We Stand America (602)459-0013 (1:309/51) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 738 To: TOM TCIMPIDIS Date: 05/03/94 10:35a Subj: Re: need a guru Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT>The new file and record structures have already been released. TT>Basically, they went from a database based message system to a flat TT>file based message system. Where are these specs available? Are they going to be hatched out an FDN? --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARR HOAG Number: 739 To: GARY RYNO Date: 05/03/94 12:46p Subj: RA/FD/TICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Gary Ryno to Gary Barr dated 05-01-94 *** > Unfortunately, Tick doesn't have del/sent capability. If even Tick did > support that flag, there's a serious problem using this particular > technique, however: if you happen to be routing the same file to more > than one downlink, the first time you transmit it, del/sent will delete > it, and any other downlinks won't get it at all; just a null file > attach message with nothing actually attached to it. Apparently you've never used Tick.... Local Passthrough in an area block will most-certainly do what he wants, for that area. It does _not_ delete the file until all attaches for that file have been sent. --- FMail 0.97h beta+ * Origin: The Hideaway! - Tompkins MI - (1:2330/4@Fido) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 740 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 05/04/94 6:50a Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John answered Mac Bryant: MB> I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. Now a MB> sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll Fido from me. MB> What is the charge for adding this. Seems like I remember MB> something about $10 per MB> month? And what does that include? The filebone too? JH> Hi, Mac. The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send JH> the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet JH> Connect. I hope you meant "ANYTHING from Fido". I lost your post about 701 / 703 exit problems, but you had them backwards - 701 is the exit after the FDNs, and 703 is the exit after the Fido mail. See \SKYDATA\SKYINFO\PCINFO.TXT . --- PPoint 1.80 * Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 741 To: MAC BRYANT Date: 05/04/94 6:51a Subj: Re: feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Did John Hrusovszky mislead Mac? JH> Hi, Mac. The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want to send JH> the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving it via Planet JH> Connect. MB> Thanks, John. I've forwarded the message along. Will let you guys MB> know. The $10 includes your right to hub the entire Fido backbone FIDONET.NA and also FIDONET.NO and as much of the Fido filebone as you get from Planet Connect; but there are additional restrictions on some of the other services from elsewhere, eg Author Direct, weather, TV listings, PCSITES. --- PPoint 1.80 * Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 742 To: ERIC KRICHBAUM Date: 05/04/94 12:09a Subj: Re: Satellite Reciever Fo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is this the Ku band or C band receiver? was a Ku.. sold now sorry. --- QScan v1.071b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROSS Number: 743 To: GREG ROSLER Date: 05/01/94 5:59p Subj: Re: Reply... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Well, you made it here with no problem. Got your message just fine! Good, then you can let me know if you get mine as well ;). Chris --- SLMAIL v4.0 (#1352) * Origin: Evening Shade - Home of Sky Mountain. (1:167/565) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE ADAIR Number: 744 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/04/94 6:40p Subj: InterNet Mail delays?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, I have waited awhile before I wrote to you on this... the InterNet newsgroups are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from 4/28 to 4/29!!! These messages are 5 to 6 days old! Is this temporary?? Putting up messages that are almost a week behind is NOT worth the time it takes... let alone the money <g>. In Christ, Steve <steve.adair@firehouse.org> ========================================================================== Jude 23 Ministries/The Firehouse bbs (803)-322-6822 FamilyNet 8:1011/0 jude23@firehouse.org "And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23) ========================================================================== --- WM v3.10/93-0610 * Origin: Greenville, Sc FamlyNet Backbone (803)-322-6822 (1:3639/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANDY VICKERS Number: 745 To: STEVE GORDON Date: 05/04/94 7:13p Subj: Mexico - contacts needed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Steve Gordon said: > I am a business professional in New York and am expanding a > division of the fastest U.S. growth company this decade into > Mexico with various product lines including personal and > health care. High residual income opportunity for > individuals with strong contacts in Mexico. For more > information call 800-546-0177 (USA only) or reply via E-MAIL > to JCIMARKTNG@aol.com (this is not AMWAY). I think this is a Planet Connect Support Echo, and related topics the last time I looked. Did I miss something that was said with a PC Related topics here. Please take your sales somewhere else. Andy Vickers Vice President D.D.S. & R. Inc. --- Freq CD FOR INFO! * Origin: We Produce Compact Discs for Storage of Databases (1:318/911) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE BELUE Number: 746 To: CHRIS BATES Date: 05/03/94 11:51p Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CB>Just to throw in my ten cents here, I always got 1600 to 1700 CPS rates with CB>14.4's, and I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's! If CB>make many "file Requests" from them, it is worth the $140 for a new 28.8! Chris, I just got mine today. Would you mind sharing your NVRAM settings? > Mike < Tue, 05-03-94 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #6075 * I may work slow, but I do poor work --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 747 To: JOHN ROBINSON Date: 05/04/94 5:19p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello There Bill! -> -> In a message to Ken Flory on <04/30/94> Bill Starr said the following -> -> BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? -> BS> Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont ge -> BS> tossed just dumped into the trash can? -> -> Get ahold of Mike Ortiz, Bill.. He wrote a version of Gomail that -> will do just that... I ran it the first night I got it and let me tel -> you, That sucker is FAST.! Just like Gomail.! -> -> -> John R. -> -> * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173 -> John, That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it says. I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines that I do not carry: 101 12_STEPS ; 12 Steps Discussion P 4DOS 1:3615/50 ; 4DOS Echo 102 ABLENEWS ; Disability/medical news, views, etc. P ABORTION 1:3615/50 ; Abortion Discussion P ADAM 1:309/27 ; Adam Computer Conf. (The line P ADAM 1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another) Is this correct? I sure do appreciate the assistance. Bill --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0313] * Origin: United We Stand America (602)459-0013 (1:309/51) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUSTIN MCDERMID Number: 748 To: ALL Date: 05/04/94 3:38p Subj: PC system wanted Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just wondering if anyone was considering selling off their planet connect receiver and/or system? I have been thinking about getting into one of my own and would like to find the best deal to do so. Thanks. --- Renegade v07-17 Beta * Origin: A Place Between Time and Space...The Continuum BBS (1:353/353) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DONOHUE Number: 749 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/03/94 6:48a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BS>Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being utilitzed on BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? BS> Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get BS> tossed just dumped into the trash can? I'm not familiar with GoMail; but with Squish, we declare BadArea and DupeArea as pass-thru areas. Sends those messages right into the bit bucket. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library * McAllen, Texas * (210) 682-4530 (1:397/5258) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NATE CHASE Number: 750 To: ALL Date: 05/01/94 1:06p Subj: Lightning arrestor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a Message to STEVE ADAIR on 04-28-94 (18:00) in Conference (458) PlanetConn regarding SAT COMPUTER SHOW JIM DUNMYER wrote... JD>The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good voltage JD>spike, even if the lightning hits only "close by". This spike JD>can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps other connected JD>equipment. They suggest that you install a lightning arrestor JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer. Boyd (et all), Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed? Nate === * OLX 2.2 * CLOSED FOR TAG IMPROVMENT * Omaha's Own HAWG WILD! BBS, Omaha, NE, (402)493-2737 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 HAWGWILD (#5008) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 751 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/01/94 1:43p Subj: Account Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No JH=>Not meaning to butt in here, but the same thing happened to me. =>I was told that they would make the difference up at the end of the =>sub. I lost 4 days when I renewed. =>If you look at 3 months vs. 1/4 year, PC is going to come out ahead. =>12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year.. Mistakes happen! I have had confirmation from Boyd that it will be looked into upon my next call. thanks for the message. * OLX 1.52 * The only dumb question is the one that is not asked. === * RENFREW Computer Club & BBS -<CANADA>- (via Satelite) * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RENFREW (#1303) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 752 To: BILL CLARK Date: 05/04/94 10:03p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Clark wrote in a message to Randy Edwards: BC> The HOBBIES echo is a FamilyNet echo, and is gated to BC> FidoNet by Bob Hoffman, the FamilyNet head. Bob Hoffman BC> requested John Souvestre at 1:396/1, the Southern Star, not BC> to send the HOBBIES traffic in FidoNet to Planet Systems BC> uplink node, 1:3615/50 since the HOBBIES echo is already BC> distributed over the satellite in the FamilyNet QWK mail BC> packets. Hoffman also requested Planet Systems not to BC> distribute or accept traffic in the HOBBIES echo except in BC> those FamilyNet QWK mail packets. It's not in QWK format - it's in FTSC type packets (just like the Fido stuff). Only 'gotcha' is that replies must go directly back to Bob Hoffman at 8:8/0 in FamilyNet. You don't have to join FamilyNet though. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 753 To: KEN SHORT Date: 05/04/94 10:18p Subj: Need idea's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ken, Regarding your message to All ..... KS> Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band KS> wagon...I was holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been KS> told they are having probs with the new dongle, they are beta KS> testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh well...Now i KS> need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my KS> OS/2 bbs machine...IE what is a good package to hook the 2 KS> machines... I'm same as you ..... hooked on OS/2 and waiting for a dongle. I have my DOS box listening to the dish and connected to the BBS machine via a null modem cable. I send the files across at 115200 with GSZ, a dosser but it runs ok under OS/2. I messed with Hydracom for a bit because there are both DOS and OS/2 versions and it might work with a bit more fiddling but GSZ started working for me first so I stayed with it. OK, here's the whole ball o' wax, cable, software, batch files, etc. Null modem cables are cheap but if you really want to go cheap and have a spare modem cable hanging around then modify it into a null modem cable. I did and it works. Here's the connections ..... 2 ------ 3 3 ------ 2 4 ------ 5 5 ------ 4 6&8 ---- 20 20 ----- 6&8 I recommend soldering any wire wrapped joints you have to make and to verify the cable with an ohm meter or some sort of continuity checker to be sure that the connections are right. It's nice to know beforehand that the job is done right. Wrong connections might fry your serial port. Also, if the setup doesn't work then you'll be wondering if it's the cable that's wrong or your software. GSZ runs fine for me out of an OS/2 batch (.cmd) file. The OS/2 command interpreter opens the DOS session automatically (have a hunch 4OS2 can't do that) and I didn't have to mess with the DOS session settings at all. Here's the OS/2 batch file ........ :start d: cd \bink\net gsz port 2 speed 115200 d t -T cd \bink call mailproc.cmd goto start Gsz dumps inbound data into the current directory so I switch to my mailer's inbound dir before starting gsz which is on the path. The command line parameters and switches to gsz are case sensitive and the spaces you see are required. The "d" makes it ignore carrier detect, "t" I can't remember, turbo or something like that, "-T" is to make it wait until a caller (the DOS box) signals the end of a transfer session. Mailproc.cmd calls squishp.exe to toss the mail, ticp.exe to process the tics and seal.exe to announce new files. When it's done gsz fires up and waits. I should probably use wait.exe to stall invoking gsz but the rotation schedule PC is on seems to be highly irregular so I'm not sure when I would have wait fire up gsz. Oh well, gsz doesn't seem to use much processor time when it's waiting so it'll do for now. I'll give you qwkndrty.bat for the DOS box in the next message. Kim A way of telling KS> my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY KS> other info you think KS> is helpful....Thanks in advance... KS> Have a gooder. KS> Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido KS> -!- Synchronet KS> ! Origin: Digital Online Connection (403)548-0022 KS> (1:134/3200) KS> @PATH: 134/3200 1 10 3615/50 --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 754 To: KEN SHORT Date: 05/04/94 10:49p Subj: qwkndrty.bat Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (continued from previous message) This batch file will log satellite events to your printer. If you have a file called cr.txt consisting of a single carriage return in your current dir it will even log the times these events occur. Deluxe, huh? Nah! Deluxe is doing this all on one machine under OS/2!!! Oh Boyd .... echo *************** Start qwkndrty.bat **************** > lpt1 echo *************** ver. 27/04/94 **************** > lpt1 date > lpt1 < cr.txt time > lpt1 < cr.txt :start echo. > lpt1 d: cd \planetc echo Start ptccmain.exe > lpt1 ptccmain echo Done ptccmain.exe > lpt1 date > lpt1 < cr.txt time > lpt1 < cr.txt if errorlevel 104 goto unknown if errorlevel 103 goto fidodone rem exit from topic 703 in ptccmain.ini if errorlevel 100 goto endrot rem exit from topic 700 in ptccmain.ini if errorlevel 9 goto exit rem keyboard exit if errorlevel 0 goto exit rem normal exit from ptccmain if no "topics" defined in rem ptccmain.ini :unknown echo Unknown errorlevel from ptccmain. > lpt1 goto start :fidodone echo Fido done. > lpt1 goto start :endrot echo End of rotation. > lpt1 if exist d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt goto wait echo This is a flag file used by pcgo.bat, do not delete. > d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt pcutil check1 if exist d:\fido\*.* goto gszsend echo Inbound directory is empty, gsz transfer not required. > lpt1 goto start :gszsend echo Start gsz transfer. > lpt1 time > lpt1 < cr.txt gsz port 2 speed 115200 d sz -r -m -n d:\fido\*.* if errorlevel 1 goto gszerr1 echo Gsz transfer successful. > lpt1 time > lpt1 < cr.txt goto start :wait echo Deleting wait flag. > lpt1 del d:\planetc\flags\wait.txt goto start :gszerr1 echo Gsz transfer had undetermined errors. > lpt1 call razzboyd.cmd goto start :exit echo ************ End qwkndrty.bat. *************** > lpt1 What does this mess do? I'll start at the end and sort of back into it. The razzboyd.cmd is a little Rexx thingy I wrote that puts a message to Boyd in my netmail area. The message says "Hey Boyd, how's that OS/2 dongle coming along?" Since gsz hasn't failed me since adding that feature, Boyd hasn't received netmail from me. Geez, I wish it would fail once in a while :) Well, I wanted to keep track of the rotation times that Planet Connect uses. AYPK, a rotation is one complete dump of *all* files, Fido, Usenet, etc. I like to transfer at the end of a rotation because some good stuff is repeated after the Fido files come down and before Usenet starts. By using "pcutil check1" I don't transfer any repeated files, just the stuff new for the day so the transfer is quick and I start receiving again before Fido stuff is transmitted. I suppose I could run the transfer in the background and receive continuous but that would require Desqview and I'm too cheap for that. I also wanted to schedule my GSZ transfers at night. At first I thought there was only 2 rotations per day so the wait.txt file that the batch file alternately writes and deletes was supposed to be a flag that tells the batch "don't send now, wait until the next rotation". Turns out there are three rotations so the idea doesn't work as I originally intended but they happen during slow hours so it's not bad. Adding another wait flag would stall the transfer until after 5 AM for me but the rotation times have become so irregular that I just let them happen. Can't fight progess, know what I mean? You'll notice that I'm using pcutil to delete repeated files. Pcfu is a similar, reportedly better program by the same author and I'll be switching it in tonight. Well, maybe instead I'll use the time to write a pcfu clone in Rexx for us OS/2 people. D:\fido is the directory my Fido files go into off the dish, you can configure that as you please in a_config.sky. I'm sure you'll figure out the rest. I know my setup could be better but what the heck ... it's temporary. Works pretty good though and gives me about 7000 cps transfer rates between the 2 machines even with somebody downloading off the BBS at 14.4. When they play BRE though it slows the tansfer right down to 2000 and I can't figure why, maybe you can? Twiddling DOS session settings doesn't seem to help. I have 16550 uarts on both ends although I was using 16450 on the DOS box at first and getting very few block retrys and just about 7000 cps rates. Again, the gsz command line is case and space critical. The switches I'm using invoke GSZ's crash recovery mode. Without that the transfer will die on the first file that already exists in the receiving directory. Another cheap method uses the parallel port for transfers which is probably even faster than what I'm doing now. The software you need for this method comes on disk with Dvorak's book "PC Connectivity" which details the method completely, so I've been told. Questions and suggestions welcome. Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM BERGMAN Number: 755 To: TOM TCIMPIDIS Date: 05/04/94 9:45p Subj: Dongle and os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tom, TT> KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have TT> cracked the KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using TT> your product in KBan "irregular" (don't want to say TT> "illegal" <g>) way. We KBfurther speculate that Planet TT> Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as TT> long as these hackers pay for the KBservice they get (the TT> only decent thing to do) and don't pass KBthe hack on to TT> other people. And that is why we haven't heard TT> I can't go into specifics but I know this to be true. The contract I signed and which was accepted by PC allows modification of the code for one's own use. It specifically prohibits passing modified code to other people. Fair enough. You can't tell me who has the hacked code because he/she can't give it to me anyway. Can you tell me how to hack it myself? Something to do with debug, disk editor and NOP instructions? TT> I'm both a Dos/DV and an OS/2 user myself. I'd very much TT> welcome a "sanctioned" OS/2 version as well as a much better TT> Desqview version. Pity. I've gone through 2 operating systems superior to DOS, running on other (non-Intel) machines. With the advent of a real multitasker for an Intel machine, I decided to switch to an IBM clone only to find that people are still writing for an "OS" conceived in the Dark Ages and calling their product progressive. I refuse to adjust my attitude because it's reality that's buggered :) Kim --- * Origin: The Sailboard (403)-854-4309 Hanna, Alberta (1:358/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 756 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/04/94 11:56p Subj: Corrupted files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 02 May 94, Gordon Malone writes to Dennis Powers: GM> Thanks and please do keep us posted. Here is some more detail culled from my history logs. In each case the file size has remained the same but the File with the Different CRC is corrupted. What I find of particular interest is that this has not happened (since I started watching) with *any* of the FDN or PCUSENET files, only the Fido arcmail packets. Since *only* the arcmail bundles are affected I can be pretty sure that the problem is not with my equipment, but is some function of the Program & or uplink process. Let me know if you desire additional information. File name Size Date Time CRC32 Processed Date & time ============ ======== ======== ======== ======== ===================== 0000FFFF.MO1 465505 05/02/94 01:36:10 7CDC178B 05-02-1994 13:20:00 0000FFFF.MO1 465505 05/02/94 01:36:10 7CDC178B 05-03-1994 01:56:38 0000FFFF.MO1 465505 05/02/94 01:36:10 82987DC3 05-03-1994 03:06:55 0000FFFF.MO4 495462 05/02/94 02:22:28 10D9F5EC 05-02-1994 20:01:09 0000FFFF.MO4 495462 05/02/94 02:22:28 0E119023 05-03-1994 03:06:38 0000FFFF.SA2 436987 04/30/94 02:29:36 1B4C49BE 04-30-1994 11:52:50 0000FFFF.SA2 436987 04/30/94 02:29:36 1B4C49BE 05-01-1994 00:24:11 0000FFFF.SA2 436987 04/30/94 02:29:36 7F323499 05-01-1994 02:46:09 0000FFFF.SA2 436987 04/30/94 02:29:36 1B4C49BE 05-01-1994 11:18:07 0000FFFF.SAB 469422 04/16/94 06:22:30 30EC001F 04-16-1994 11:12:01 0000FFFF.SAB 469422 04/16/94 06:22:30 8BE40DDF 04-16-1994 22:52:20 0000FFFF.SAB 469422 04/16/94 06:22:30 8BE40DDF 04-17-1994 05:51:42 0000FFFF.SU0 376781 04/17/94 00:34:18 7EE20982 04-17-1994 19:14:28 0000FFFF.SU0 376781 04/17/94 00:34:18 C12B56AE 04-18-1994 07:42:44 0000FFFF.SU0 376781 04/17/94 00:34:18 7EE20982 04-19-1994 19:41:13 0000FFFF.SUG 478155 05/01/94 17:42:42 68B23061 05-02-1994 10:27:29 0000FFFF.SUG 478155 05/01/94 17:42:42 68B23061 05-02-1994 19:59:29 0000FFFF.SUG 478155 05/01/94 17:42:42 EB86892C 05-03-1994 03:04:54 0000FFFF.TU6 437108 05/03/94 04:34:34 1D338929 05-03-1994 12:08:12 0000FFFF.TU6 437108 05/03/94 04:34:34 38529FAA 05-03-1994 19:21:53 0000FFFF.TU6 437108 05/03/94 04:34:34 38529FAA 05-03-1994 23:56:38 0000FFFF.TUE 383267 04/26/94 12:04:18 F7008D76 04-27-1994 09:15:49 0000FFFF.TUE 383267 04/26/94 12:04:18 F7008D76 04-27-1994 19:52:36 0000FFFF.TUE 383267 04/26/94 12:04:18 E8547829 04-28-1994 09:54:24 0000FFFF.TUE 248513 05/03/94 07:01:24 98ACAFA1 05-03-1994 19:18:18 0000FFFF.TUE 248513 05/03/94 07:01:24 BA6B9052 05-03-1994 23:53:41 0000FFFF.WE7 428335 04/27/94 04:27:12 3869EBCC 04-27-1994 12:00:13 0000FFFF.WE7 428335 04/27/94 04:27:12 3869EBCC 04-27-1994 19:56:05 0000FFFF.WE7 428335 04/27/94 04:27:12 EAD341E9 04-28-1994 09:58:07 0000FFFF.WEF 526211 04/13/94 17:38:20 BCD26AFB 04-14-1994 09:55:58 0000FFFF.WEF 526211 04/13/94 17:38:20 6737EE03 04-14-1994 23:59:59 0000FFFF.WEF 526211 04/13/94 17:38:20 6737EE03 04-15-1994 02:06:55 Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 757 To: ALL Date: 05/04/94 11:02p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Guys and gals. I have been trying to get productive for the past month and a half and at this point I have very little hair left in my head as I have been pulling it out by the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to get a processer that will process .BAG files into something that I can distribute to other fido nodes in the same way we send Echomail. I have tried Gigo and found that I needed to loose all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and an Internet address of my own. The other program I have given a lot of thought to was XSH . This was a disaster for me . String after string of problems with this software have redused me to the point where I must sit here for up to five hours and baby sit this software while it processes the PCUSENET files into a message base when getting things out of the message base is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any one that is using and processing thease files that can give me a hand setting up this kind of system. Or at least point me at a peace of software that Will do what it says it will with out having to rebuild my entire system around it. Thanks . any help would make you a worshiped guru of the online!!!<G> .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 758 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/04/94 11:26p Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> Which brand/model is this you're using? CW> Chuck I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom 28.8's for $169, but nothing for $140. Wonder if it's internal or external? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 759 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/05/94 2:44p Subj: Is it me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is it me??? I don't think so... -> -> It seems that everytime I FREQ a file from PC, it takes anywhere from -> 5-10 minutes before I see/get a steady stream of data flowing. I'm -> running a 14.4 USR Dual Std and have no problems like this with other Hello Chuck, I have the same thing happen EVERYTIME I do a F'req. I've tried with my 16.8 USR Duals and Zyxels....same thing! I've told Boyd about this twice now, no ideas. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: T.O.L. * 15 Gigs * InterNet * (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM TAYLOR Number: 760 To: ALL Date: 05/05/94 11:13p Subj: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS, and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know. Thanks Jim Taylor --- WM v3.01/93-0902 * Origin: Rocky Mountain Rendezvous: Cheyenne WY (307-638-8506) (1:310/5.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 761 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 05/05/94 7:30a Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL->One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS. Set the DL->echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding DL->nodes. In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo DL->you don't want should read: DL->P <ECHO NAME> 1:3615/50 DL->You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the DL->only connected system is Planet Connect. DL->You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little DL->creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably DL->save you some typing that way. I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release. It will search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those to your AREAS.BBS for ya. It will also ; (comment) the ones that are no longer shown in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same time, add new passthru's. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 762 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 05/05/94 7:31a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EH->Well, things here is confused! We've been on the bird for two months and S EH->haven't gotten our "outgoing" back to /50 to work. EH->As of this weekend several of the local sysops have spent practically every EH->afternoon browbeating the hub machines into working. So far no joy. Even EH->we 'force' a connect /50 won't talk to us. EH->Ah, the joys of FIDO! Did you setup a SESSION password with Boyd? --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON Number: 763 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/05/94 2:36p Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wed 04-May-1994 23:02 thus spake Mike Nyman unto All: MN> have been pulling it out by the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to MN> get a processer that will process .BAG files into something that I can MN> distribute to other fido nodes in the same way we send Echomail. I have MN> .....Mike Nyman Send a NETMAIL to 1:2201/8, Phil Miller, when PC was testing the PCUSENET stuff, he had it working. I believe he used FRED (something or other) to convert to PKT and then FASTECHO to toss. --- GoldED 2.42/D'Bridge 1.54/FastEcho 1.40 * Origin: Charlie's Corner (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO Number: 764 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 05/05/94 11:03a Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mark Adkins wrote in a message to Mickey Ferguson: MA> I'm working on a project that will be on a 486DX2 66 VESA MA> with an 8 port Arnet card and six nodes running PCBoard. MA> I'll need Desqview to manage this. I've run four nodes on MA> one machine with Desqview but never 6. I was told by a few MA> that it won't work, DOS can't seem to handle more than four MA> comm sessions at one time. MA> Would you (or anyone else reading this) know anything about MA> this? I could go OS/2 and run PCBoard as a DOS Session but I MA> don't think this would be much difference than non-OS/2 MA> because it's still a DOS session. According to this months Boardwatch cover, PCBoard 15.1 has OS/2 awareness. It is still a DOS app, but will now time slice nicely to OS/2. Get the 'paid' version of Gwinns comm drivers and you can use 8 serial ports under OS/2. I would make sure you have at least 20 megs of RAM in the beast and would prefer to see 32 or more. With 20 and my DX33 I start seeing some serious slowdown at a dozen OS/2 apps. Or about three DOS apps. Or one DOS app that uses serial ports. So if the 15.1 vers of PCB will work well under OS/2 I would go that route. Dave Calafrancesco, 1:272/54 - Team OS/2 --- * Origin: Druid's Grove BBS - (914)/876-2237 (1:272/54) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY RYNO Number: 765 To: DARR HOAG Date: 05/05/94 1:25p Subj: RA/FD/TICK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Darr - > Apparently you've never used Tick.... Appearances can be deceiving. I was a Tick beta site for three years. > Local Passthrough > in an area block will most-certainly do what he wants, for that area. Absolutely correct. > It does _not_ delete the file until all attaches for that file have been > sent. A del/sent netmail flag will, however, and a kill/sent flag won't do anything to the attached files at all. That's what I was trying to convey. - Gary --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Gandalf's - San Diego, Ca - USR DS - 619-466-9505 (1:202/302) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 766 To: LEE BONNIFIELD Date: 05/05/94 9:36p Subj: Re: Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LB> MB> I signed up as a non-feeding node with Planet Connect. LB> Now a MB> sysop nearby (in another state) wants to poll LB> Fido from me. MB> What is the charge for adding this. Seems LB> like I remember MB> something about $10 per LB> MB> month? And what does that include? The filebone too? JH>> Hi, Mac. The additional $10.00 includes ANYTHING that you want JH>> to send the other node(s), as long as you are already receiving JH>> it via Planet Connect. LB> I hope you meant "ANYTHING from Fido". I meant anything from FidoNet Echomail and the FileBone. Sorry for not being more explicit. LB> I lost your post about 701 / 703 exit problems, but you had them LB> backwards - 701 is the exit after the FDNs, and 703 is the exit LB> after the Fido mail. See \SKYDATA\SKYINFO\PCINFO.TXT . Oh.. OK...I'll check into that....thanks. --jah ... Do Dyslexic Agnostics Ponder the Existance of Dog? --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 767 To: NATE CHASE Date: 05/05/94 9:36p Subj: Re: Lightning Arrestor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD>>The coax cable can act as an antenna and pick up a pretty good JD>>voltage spike, even if the lightning hits only "close by". This JD>>spike can fry your receiver or LNB, or perhaps other connected JD>>equipment. They suggest that you install a lightning arrestor JD>>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect JD>>folks or probably any local satellite dealer. NC> Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed? Just to toss my 2 cents in here ... there is absolutely NO device that is guaranteed not to withstand damage from a lightening strike. Some do warranty the device itself; some do CLAIM to warranty up to $10,000.00 worth of equipment which is attached to it, but try and put in a claim for something that got totalled due to a direct hit. _MOST_ on guarantee against transient voltage, spikes, and/or brownouts. --jah ... Ben Dover & C. Howit Feels -- Attorneys at Law --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 768 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 05/05/94 4:45p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <May 04 22:03>, Craig Clark of 1:3658/1 writes: CC> It's not in QWK format - it's in FTSC type packets (just like the Fido CC> stuff). Only 'gotcha' is that replies must go directly back to Bob CC> Hoffman at 8:8/0 in FamilyNet. You don't have to join FamilyNet CC> though. Thanks for the clarification, Craig. I'd never actually unarchived any of the FamilyNet archives to find out what was inside, but assumed it was QWK. And you know what ASSume does.... :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HART Number: 769 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/05/94 2:31p Subj: Ilink Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have any info about ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir? I saw the message about the alltics ( no problem there ). Thanks, Brian --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: FREEDOM BBS * Streetsboro,Ohio (1:157/579) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GORDON MALONE Number: 770 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 05/03/94 6:01a Subj: Planet Connect Network! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Johnny! > that > each one must be weighed out accordingly. We will be sure to > keep > everyone updated. Just keep this in the back somewhere. I'm very interested in helping to build it with you guys. I know there are only a few of you over there and can imagine that it is a little overwhelming at the moment. If anything, make sure that you are writing down or storing *all* suggestions that are coming your way. At least 50% are good and every improvement makes your alturnative that much more attractive. Gordon --- PCB15.1/Gecho 1.02+ * Origin: RDL - Baltimore's 1st PC Satellite System 410-866-4554 (1:13/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LE DUC Number: 771 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/05/94 8:15p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mike Nyman wrote in a message to All: MN> I have tried Gigo and found that I needed to loose MN> all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and MN> an Internet address of my own. I'm using GIGO under QEMM with it's 32 bit emulatior here...it's pretty fast! My environment is not very friendly here (Desqview, Netware lite, and three lines of High speed modems on a digiboard with Dgfossel). Send me some more info and we'll compare notes. TTYL, John --- * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS-Las Vegas,NV (1:209/720) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 772 To: ALL Date: 05/05/94 8:39a Subj: Missing File Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 773 To: BOB MORTIMER Date: 05/05/94 4:31p Subj: Account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No =>12 months at 30 days per month = 360 days, 5 days short of a full year.. BM> Mistakes happen! I have had confirmation from Boyd that it will be BM> looked into upon my next call. BM> thanks for the message. Yes, I understand problems can happen, (I'm a Sysop <g>..) -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 774 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/04/94 12:20p Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-03-94 18:10> BILL STARR wrote: BS> I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a Your setup is impressive, Bill. By-the-way, there is a person in the genealogy echoes who is looking to contact all STARR's... thought you might be interested... The extraction software is working fine at this point. PC puts some "1A", hex, in some packet headers.... "1A" is an "end-of-file" character, and the file will not toss that way. I am modifying the software to take all the "1A"s out of the headers. What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program exits to PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file. PCSKY.BAT calls EXTRACT.EXE. EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on the board and extracts just those messages from all the mail files. It discards all other messages in which you have no interest. This process saves me many *hours* each day! After the extraction, the tosser is called and traffic is tossed to your board and downlinks. I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might do that if a number of people need it. I'll keep you apprised of correcting the "1A" problem... please let me know about the STARR genealogy contact.... Regards, Jack --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBINSON Number: 775 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/05/94 7:13p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello There Bill! In a message to John Robinson on <05/04/94> Bill Starr said the following: BS> That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it says. BS> I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a BS> complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines that I BS> do not carry: BS> 101 12_STEPS ; 12 Steps Discussion BS> P 4DOS 1:3615/50 ; 4DOS Echo BS> 102 ABLENEWS ; Disability/medical news, views, etc. BS> P ABORTION 1:3615/50 ; Abortion Discussion BS> P ADAM 1:309/27 ; Adam Computer Conf. BS> (The line P ADAM 1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another) BS> Is this correct? I sure do appreciate the assistance. Sure is.. Anything you don't keep and "passthru" uses the "P" in your areas.bbs file....... John R. * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CRAIN Number: 776 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/06/94 11:04a Subj: Missing File Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No On May 05, 1994, at 08:39, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 wrote: JH> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday? Not me! I received it about 5am on Thursday. It must of made it in the last pass for the day. Gary --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Rendezvous!! 28800/V.FC Bastrop, Tx [512-303-1324] (1:382/92) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 777 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/06/94 6:35p Subj: Re: Unused Echomail Msgs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release. CW> It will search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those CW> to your AREAS.BBS for ya. It will also ; (comment) the ones CW> that are no longer shown in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same CW> time, add new passthru's. Gosh...I _NEED_ this program <G>. Hope it will be coming to us via Planet Connect. --jah ... Work Harder! Millions on welfare are depending on you! --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 778 To: JACK WILLIAMS Date: 05/06/94 10:14a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-03-94 18:10> BILL STARR wrote: -> -> BS> I sure am interested in any program that will help me. I have a -> -> Your setup is impressive, Bill. By-the-way, there is a person in the -> genealogy echoes who is looking to contact all STARR's... thought you -> be interested... -> -> The extraction software is working fine at this point. PC puts some " -> hex, in some packet headers.... "1A" is an "end-of-file" character, a -> file will not toss that way. I am modifying the software to take all -> "1A"s out of the headers. -> -> What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program exits t -> PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file. PCSKY.BAT calls -> EXTRACT.EXE. -> -> EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on th -> and extracts just those messages from all the mail files. It discards -> other messages in which you have no interest. This process saves me m -> *hours* each day! After the extraction, the tosser is called and traf -> tossed to your board and downlinks. -> -> I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might do t -> a number of people need it. -> -> I'll keep you apprised of correcting the "1A" problem... please let m -> about the STARR genealogy contact.... -> -> Regards, Jack -> Jack, I have had some suggestions from others to do the following: P <Filename> 1:3615/50 This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to Planet Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound Sub-Dir and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any ideas? Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that I could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will subscribe as it is only $12 a year. Bill --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0313] * Origin: United We Stand America (602)459-0013 (1:309/51) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 779 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/06/94 6:51p Subj: Missing File Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No -> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday? Got it here on the third pass.. Mike --- QScan v1.066b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe * 219-453-4046 * v32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 780 To: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO Date: 05/06/94 8:43p Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> According to this months Boardwatch cover, PCBoard 15.1 has OS/2 -> awareness. It is still a DOS app, but will now time slice -> nicely to OS/2. Get the 'paid' version of Gwinns comm drivers -> and you can use 8 serial ports under OS/2. PCBoard 15.1 comes with drivers for DOS and OS/2 aware and a program that sets these up for Arnet (digiboard too) and they, CDC, tell you NOT to use any other drivers. -> I would make sure you have at least 20 megs of RAM in the beast and -> would prefer to see 32 or more. With 20 and my DX33 I start seeing -> some serious slowdown at a dozen OS/2 apps. Or about three DOS apps. -> Or one DOS app that uses serial ports. You have me a little confused here. You have 1 DOS app that uses serial ports and that one causes you serious slowdowns with 20 megs of RAM. If this is the case under OS/2 how the heck can I run 6 DOS apps that use serial ports? I'd need 100+ megs? I don't know of a computer than holds that much RAM. The one's that I've been looking at hold up to 62/64 megs. Might as well get two computers and run 3 nodes on each under DOS if OS/2 needs that much memory to run and ends up slowing everything down when you run 1 DOS serial program. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 781 To: JOHNNY GREEN Date: 05/05/94 2:28p Subj: Account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->BLUELAKE This is a resend of a message that was undeliverable as it was tagged private in a NON private conference. Boyd has responded to me but I want to send it off to you as a matter of course. I am now receiving this conference gated through RIME and see that you are an active massager in the Planet Connect office. May be you can help me with my problem. I seem to have a problem with the expire date of our Planet Connect account. Our original starting date was in Oct 93 during your BETA test period. Our first quarter payment started Nov. 1 1993. We paid for three months as a HUB. On January 11, 1994 I noticed PTCCMAIN.EXE beeping at us, warning us of the 9 days to renew. This was 10 days before I expected it to happen. We faxed you and after a few days called for our renewal. I was told by Bob that a term was 30 days and a quarter is 3 times that or 90 days. Now I've paid for another quarter as a single BBS node signing up as a yearly subscriber and I was told that my new expire date will be on July 12 1994. I don't understand where we are loosing all the day's. I've messaged Boyd, faxed Joe and now messaged you. I would appreciate a message reply indicating what I should expect when I call your office on or about July 2, 1994. Thank you for your attention and I hope this matter will be cleared up so we can get on with the business at hand. * OLX 1.52 * I thought I saw a Computer Attack! I did, I did see a.. === * RENFREW Computer Club & BBS -<CANADA>- (via Satelite) * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RENFREW (#1303) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 782 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 05/06/94 12:18p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm using GIGO under QEMM with it's 32 bit emulatior > here...it's pretty fast! My environment is not very > friendly here (Desqview, Netware lite, and three lines of > High speed modems on a digiboard with Dgfossel). Send me > some more info and we'll compare notes. > Hi John. I was trying to run GIGO but I could not get past the fact that dos4gw wouldnot run with a memory manager and no mater what I tryed I could not get it to run. The next thing was that I do not have an Internet address and do not know enough about internet to fake one . Nore do I have an outbound gate to gate the newsgroup access into the internet all of which are required fields in GIGO . so I turned to a very round about way of tossing this stuff . I am running XSH to toss the news groups I want into *.MSG format and then running gecho to toss the measges into pakets for outbound nodes. This worked ok but I kept getting XSH hanging up on a bag and I would have to reboot and manualy delete the affected bag and then restart the process. this was what I ment about babysitting the thing. Yesterday one of my points found a program that seams to have solved this . PIQUE goes through each bag and pulls only the messages from news groups I want and gets rid of all the trash that XSH seams to choke on. But I am now having to set up three programs config files by hand and the set up for this is taking me for ever. So much for the nice days of gechos areamgr. I am running DOS 6.2 and QEMM on two 386 sx40's with Lantastic AI BNU for a fossal and a 14.4 and a 28.8 . One on each computer and two cd roms. If you know of some way to help with this mess it would be much appreceated. later John .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS BATES Number: 783 To: MIKE BELUE Date: 05/06/94 7:32p Subj: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > CB> I now get 3300 and up to 3600 CPS rates with my new 28.8's! > Chris, > I just got mine today. Would you mind sharing your > NVRAM settings? No problem! I will netmail you a textfile called FDRAZOOM.TXT that I got from someplace, I can't remember where though... It is an excellent textfile that has all the necessary init strings for Remote Access, FrontDoor, and ZOOM 28.8's! This file is a godsend, and anyone who wants it can FREQ it from me at 1:399/3... Later, chris ... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 34 days. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Tower O'Hi' Saucery (501)329-7508 - ZOOM 28.8's (1:399/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ROBINSON Number: 784 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/02/94 4:54p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello There Bill! In a message to Ken Flory on <04/30/94> Bill Starr said the following: BS> my board. Right now they are being tossed into BADMSG dir? BS> Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they wont get BS> tossed just dumped into the trash can? Get ahold of Mike Ortiz, Bill.. He wrote a version of Gomail that will do just that... I ran it the first night I got it and let me tell you, That sucker is FAST.! Just like Gomail.! John R. * WCE 1.5/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173 --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0051] * Origin: This Old House * D.S. 16.8 * Tacoma Wa (1:138/173) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHNNY GREEN Number: 785 To: SIKKO DE GRAAF Date: 05/03/94 11:01a Subj: Planet connect in Europe?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On (01 May 94) Sikko De Graaf wrote to Johnny Green... SD> Can you give me your company voice nr: so we can call you for some SD> more information and questions?.. Planet Systems, Inc, (615) 623-8300 VOICE ... │ Home of Planet Connect and Skylink Communications. │ --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Planet Systems, Skylink 615-623-8300 (1:3615/50.4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 786 To: KEN SHORT Date: 05/02/94 11:39p Subj: Need idea's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday April 28 1994, Ken Short writes to All: Hello Ken! KS> well...Now i need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my KS> OS/2 bbs machine...IE what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A KS> way of telling my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY KS> other info you think is helpful....Thanks in advance... I have a 386sx running dos 5.0 with lantastic 5.0 & intel etherexpress 16bit lan cards. the dos machine receives all day all night, exiting, dup checking, then moving the mail/files to my os2 machine and then sends a force exit to my binkley line..it runs a rexx script i wrote which also dup checks (done as a precaussion since in the past..all the available dos dup checkers failed at one time or another and completely crashed my os.2 box..so...after dup checking all the stuff i move the mail to a mail dir, the files to a file dir..i hatch the mail out to the other main hubs in vancouver, let that get sent..then hatch the files after 6:30 which allows plenty of time for the semi-time sensitive mail to get out first (i hope :) Oh..lantastic runs under a vdm image under os.2..uses no cpu load cept maybe 20% while the files get moved but otherwise is invisible. Hope some of this gives you some ideas. If it was of great use..i'd zip up my lanimage file for you and make it avaiulble for freq :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIERMAN Number: 787 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/03/94 8:37a Subj: WildCat and PConn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The best thing we have come up with is using WildMail 3.11 it has the option in it now to will messages in Conf that you are not carrying. The only problem is if you are a HUB for other board then they will not be able to auto add conf. because when they request a conf. it puts them in a Que file and waits for a message to be tossed in the bad area and then adds the conf. if they are being deleted as they come in it will never add them. you have to manual add them.. I talked to On-Line about this and the said it will be take care of in the next release of WildMail 4.0 sometime when Wildcat 4.0 is out!! David Lierman 1:2255/90 PITA BBS --- WM v3.11/92-0642 * Origin: PITA BBS Anderson, IN (1:231/550.0) (1:2255/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER CONWAY Number: 788 To: ALL Date: 05/03/94 3:04p Subj: Global Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Why GLOBAL CONNECT? ------------------- Now let's just say you want to call during the day, unheard of right?? WRONG! If your currently using Plannet Connect or Pagesat to recieve you mail and using "PRICEYNet" to send your mail back, then let's just show you what you can save by going with Global Connect: Price's compared on May 3, 1994 GLOBAL CONNECT PRICEYNET -------------- --------- Setup Fee: $0.00 $50.00 Domain Name: $40.00 $25.00 Monthly Fee: $12.00 $6.00 Hourly Connect Fee: $0.00 $4.00 Long Distance Cost: $0.18/min* $0.24/min Storage Fee: $0.00 $0.00 (soon to change) Per meg charge: $0.00 $2.00/per meg after 1st Seperate Personal Account Included at NO charge: YES NO Leased Line and SLIP/PPP Support : YES NO Dial-in 800 numbers : YES NO Support 7 days a week: YES NO ------------ ------------- Total Average yearly cost:$488.50 $722.50 *Special 800 dial-in access available to anyone in North America. ANY QUESTIONS? Call 804-229-4484(voice) 9am - 7pm 1:271/320 (Interuse.zip) Info@backdr.com * Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc. Prices based on 2 - 30 minute day-rate calls per day for 365 days at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access. Rates quoted by Global Connect are good ONLY for current Planet Connect or Pagesat Customers. --- WM v3.11/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PETER CONWAY Number: 789 To: ALL Date: 05/03/94 3:05p Subj: Global Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Why GLOBAL CONNECT? ------------------- If your currently receiving Your feed through Plannet Connect and are using "PRICEYNet" to send back your UUCP mail, then let's just show you what you can save by going with Global Connect: Price's compared on May 3, 1994 GLOBAL CONNECT PRICEYNET -------------- --------- Setup Fee: $0.00 $50.00 Domain Name: $40.00 $25.00 Monthly Fee: $12.00 $6.00 Hourly Connect Fee: $0.00 $2.00 Long Distance Cost: $0.12/min $0.12/min Storage Fee: $0.00 $0.00 (soon to change) Per meg charge: $0.00 $1.00/per meg after 1st Seperate Personal Account Included at NO charge: YES NO Leased Line and SLIP/PPP Support : YES NO Dial-in 800 numbers : YES NO Support 7 days a week: YES NO ------------ ------------- Total Average yearly cost:$379.00 $408.75 ANY QUESTIONS? Call 804-229-4484(voice) 9am - 7pm 1:271/320 (Interuse.zip) Info@backdr.com * Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc. Prices based on 1 - 5 minute night-rate calls per day for 365 days at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access. Global Connect Monthly rate shown is valid ONLY for current Planet Connect & Pagesat customers. --- WM v3.11/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 790 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/07/94 12:24p Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thursday May 05 1994 07:30, Chuck Warren wrote to Dean Lake: CW> DL->> One way is to put all the echo areas in your AREAS.BBS. Set the DL->> echo's you don't wish to carry as PASSTHROUGH's with no fowarding DL->> nodes. In other words, the line in your AREAS.BBS for each echo DL->> you don't want should read: CW> DL->> P <ECHO NAME> 1:3615/50 CW> DL->> You are telling GoMail that <ECHO NAME> is a passthrough, and the DL->> only connected system is Planet Connect. CW> DL->> You can get the latest copy of FIDONET.NA and do a little DL->> creative editing to make this huge AREAS.BBS -- will probably DL->> save you some typing that way. CW> CW> I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release. It will CW> search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those to your AREAS.BBS CW> for ya. It will also ; (comment) the ones that are no longer shown CW> in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same time, add new passthru's. CW> CW> Chuck CW> -+- WM v3.10/91-0206 CW> + Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) Hello Chuck, I use your Last release of PCAREAS All the time.. and it works great... However, based on you comments about a New release that will comment out areas, that are not in FIDONET.NA/NO?? how will this effect topic areas like K12-HWY and many other Areas such as regional or local Net topics, that are not listed in FIDONET.NA/NO?? Inquiring Minds want to know? :-) Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HERRBACH Number: 791 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/07/94 7:33a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello BILL, On Apr. 30, 1994 at 11:05 , BILL STARR of 1:309/51 wrote: BS> Now - How do I kill the echo messages that are not being BS> utilitzed on my board. Right now they are being tossed into BS> BADMSG dir? Is there some way I can NUL or NIL them out so they BS> wont get tossed just dumped into the trash can? Areafix, Seal, and other similar programs will check the BAD_MSGS directory and if meeting criteria, add the conference names to your AREAS.BBS file. Then, they will not be tossed to your BAD_MSGS directory anymore. John {|-) --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: HAL 9000: Dave, put down those Windows disks. Dave. (1:159/950) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 792 To: BRIAN HART Date: 05/07/94 8:09p Subj: Ilink Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Brian Hart said: BH> Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have BH>any info about ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir? Methinks it has something to do with your ACONFIG.SKY being out of date. <G> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 793 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/07/94 8:10p Subj: Missing File Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No * In a message originally to All, Joe Hayes said: JH>Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday? Got it here. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 794 To: JOHN LYON Date: 05/07/94 7:54a Subj: Is it me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL-> I have the same thing happen EVERYTIME I do a F'req. I've tried JL-> with my 16.8 USR Duals and Zyxels....same thing! I've told Boyd about JL-> this twice now, no ideas. Thanks John. Seems some of us have problems, some don't. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 795 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 05/07/94 2:01a Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> Did you setup a SESSION password with Boyd? Yep! We did that. UNfortunately, today we found out that they'd typed it into ANOTHER net's address. (A typo that I make frequently so I fully understand.) This may actually GO OUT! All appropriate appendages crossed and re crossed. ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 796 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/07/94 11:16a Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN>nodes. This worked ok but I kept getting XSH hanging up on a bag MN>and I would have to reboot and manualy delete the affected bag and MN>then restart the process. this was what I ment about babysitting MN>the thing. Yesterday one of my points found a program that seams to MN>have solved this . PIQUE goes through each bag and pulls only the MN>messages from news groups I want and gets rid of all the trash that MN>XSH seams to choke on. But I am now having to set up three programs Versions of XSH prior to 0.5 would barf on a certain incorrect date field, with 0.5 I took a "screw it" approach. If it does't follow specs to the letter, I'm just going to take the current date time, do'ya know how many messages I have about "XSH is buggy", "XSH doesn't work", "The programer must be terrible", all due to other people unable to follow their own specs. Now I'll get messages going, "The date/time field is not the one in the bag". <sigh> Ah well, just relieving some frustration. 0.6 is the latest "official" version. If you want to try 0.6, freq XSH_0_6.ARJ from here(actualy, I think the XSH file area in on Plannet Connect, so you might have it already sitting on your system) and shoot me off some netmail if you have problems, until I'm informed of specific problems, I can't exactly fix them, now can I? :) The "major" new thing with 0.6 is area on demand dupe checking(you configure what areas you want to do dupe checking on). --- ><bbs/}{edEd 1.19\NX * Origin: ?,Jason Baginski,9187494139,Tulsa,OK (1:170/906) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB MORTIMER Number: 797 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/05/94 9:40a Subj: Re: account Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->433 BG=> Our caculations are not alway correct but the one that bob gave you =>is currect. Let me know on the next update and I will fix it. I hope you will be available. You seem to be a very busy person. My next call should be snack dab in the middle of vacation time. (G) * OLX 1.52 * Tags "R" Us ... === * RENFREW Computer Club & BBS -<CANADA>- (via Satelite) * PostLink(tm) v1.20 RENFREW (#1303) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 798 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/07/94 11:47a Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Bill Starr <05/05/94> John Robinson wrote: JR> Hello There Bill! JR> In a message to John Robinson on <05/04/94> Bill Starr said the JR> following: JR> BS> That is what I am running. Ver 1.1 and I am confused with what it say JR> BS> I have been told that you can use the AREAS.BBS file and make it a JR> BS> complete nodelist.na and then just do the following for the lines tha JR> BS> do not carry: JR> BS> 101 12_STEPS ; 12 Steps Discussion JR> BS> P 4DOS 1:3615/50 ; 4DOS Echo JR> BS> 102 ABLENEWS ; Disability/medical news, views, etc. JR> BS> P ABORTION 1:3615/50 ; Abortion Discussion JR> BS> P ADAM 1:309/27 ; Adam Computer Conf. JR> BS> (The line P ADAM 1:309/27 is a passon as I hub to another) Got one question on the P ADAM 1:309/27 part, are you getting that ECHO from 1:309/27? If not then it should read P ADAM 1:3615/50 1:309/27 if you are getting it form the bird in the sky so all replys would go back from 1:309/27 to your node and them back to 1:3615/50. Otherwise it is dumped to never land when a reply comes back to you. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Have you seen this Tagline? Call 1-800-TAG-THIS! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 799 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/07/94 11:56a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! BS> I have had some suggestions from others to do the following: BS> P <Filename> 1:3615/50 BS> This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to Planet BS> Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound Sub-Dir BS> and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any BS> ideas? BS> Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that I BS> could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it BS> back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will BS> subscribe as it is only $12 a year. It looks like you do not have 1:3622/51 in Gomail as your Alias address from what I read above! Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: *3622 NEC, The ELk River BBS (615) 454-2295 455-1019* (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 800 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/06/94 3:59p Subj: Missing File Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No In a msg on <May 05 08:39>, Joe Hayes of 1:2290/70 writes: JH> Did anyone recieve 52DIX.ZIP on wednesday? Got it here on a KU band setup, but I believe not until the third transmission cycle. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 801 To: BRIAN HART Date: 05/06/94 4:02p Subj: Ilink Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <May 05 14:31>, Brian Hart of 1:157/579 writes: BH> Hello Boyd, Just in case I missed somthing, would you have any info BH> about ilink.### files ending up in the skydata dir? I saw the BH> message about the alltics ( no problem there ). Sounds like a config problem with your ACONFIG.SKY. No Ilink files have wound up in the SKYDATA directory here, or in any of the directories below SKYDATA. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 802 To: BILL CLARK Date: 05/07/94 5:12p Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >in Net 100 went to Planet Connect to begin with. In the last >correspondence I had with Harvey Smith about the situation, Harvey was >considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of FamilyNet and making it a >FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its traffic again appearing >over the satellite. >Ah....the games people play.... >:-) Bill, N100EC Bill, Why can't it be in both places at the same time... ? Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 803 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/07/94 5:15p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom 28.8's for >$169, but nothing for $140. >Wonder if it's internal or external? >-Joe Joe, The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows.. $139 - Internal $159 - External Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 804 To: ALL Date: 05/07/94 1:18a Subj: PCB and other toys... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All, After 4 months in Beta Info System Technology is releasing the following toys for public beta. They will come with demo keys, and drop dead 4 times a month until you register them (gotta promote the shareware concept one way or another...) --- New Products List -------------------------------------------------- ISTMAIL - Hudson Tosser, ISTGOLD GoldBase Tosser, IST!PCB PCBoard Tosser ... all three are capable of handling 250 nodes in their export list, and 8000+ conferences *(internet). CRCHK - Ever wanted to delete off all those *.QWK files, and PCUSENET.* files that have already be processed, and could not find anything that worked worth a damn??? This does it for you, simple, no config files, just 1 command line ... and you get instant access to clean directories (running here since Jan 2nd). D/Bbs - You run QuickBBS, or RA and want a clone, but has message bases and file bases designed for the work load from the dish? Yep, this does it for you ... and if you are a PCB operator, you will love the fact we can run everything except for PPE's from D/Bbs! (we are working on the PPE's currently!) DOMANSED - want an external editor for the BBS, one that supports many configuration, and works like a word processor, not an ANSI toy??? All Communication based Software support Fossil, Uart, Int14 and Digiboard. Come in many flavours (OS/2 in development), and we have a support staff of programmers and techs reaching all ends of the US, and one in Europe. Custom Software jobs available, contact us for rates. Long live the bird! G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr. Info System Technology (tennessee branch). * - # of conferences is also based upon the amount of base ram you have available. 6800 conferences in 414k Desqview Windows, and the internal 65k cache in use (which is programmable down to 18k). --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 805 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/07/94 1:23a Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No In a message to Chuck Warren <05-04-94 23:26> Joe Hayes wrote: JH> I would be very interested in that myself. I have seen the Zoom JH> 28.8's for $169, but nothing for $140. JH> Wonder if it's internal or external? Call 1-800-822-8224 ... then (if I recall right the next two menu option on the phone are 3 then 2 ...) but ask for the fax for the 28800's for 149.00 form the MNP people themselves Microcom! This version does not support the parallel interface, but who cares? The 249 version supports parallel but only has class 1 fax (yuk). enjoy the crackle of the baud! --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 806 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/07/94 1:28a Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to All <05-04-94 23:02> Mike Nyman wrote: MN> The other program I have given a lot of thought to was XSH . This was MN> a disaster for me . String after string of problems with this MN> software have redused me to the point where I must sit here for up to MN> five hours and baby sit this software while it processes the PCUSENET MN> files into a message base when getting things out of the message base MN> is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any one that is using and processing MN> thease files that can give me a hand setting up this kind of system. MN> Or at least point me at a peace of software that Will do what it says MN> it will with out having to rebuild my entire system around it. Thanks MN> . any help would make you a worshiped guru of the online!!!<G> GRIN!!!! You want the answer, you found the author(s) of Info System Technology. We have the toys for you, we are not as fast as GIGO for going from *.BAG to *.PKT ... but you don't have to have a ton of ram, about 501k will process all the *.BAG's and send them out in *.PKT. Then as per an UPLINK ... IST also provides this to people, if you are the 1st in your area the charge is only $60.00 a year ... and yes our tossers support areanames upto 255 characters - something the otherguys forgot. We also support direct interface to PCBoard, Hudson Message bases and GoldBase Message bases (squish and jam are at the alpha sites). And we now do Credit Cards :)... Send me netmail @ 1:18/201 C ya... Don't just give me the bird, I want Internet too... <grin> --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 807 To: JIM TAYLOR Date: 05/08/94 12:07a Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to All <05-05-94 23:13> Jim Taylor wrote: JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS, JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know. Its a workin' --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 808 To: JOHN LE DUC Date: 05/08/94 12:12a Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> Netware lite, and three lines of High speed modems on a digiboard JL> with Dgfossel). Send me some more info and we'll compare notes. Drooling now... I have a Digiboard .. and a registered DGFO, but do not have the XiDOS5.Sys ... would you be so polite to send it to my system, or send netmail saying poll you for it... begging!! I have spent over a couple hundred calling people and getting the run around. I ran PCBoard with the COMMDRV.exe and tsr ... it works but I no longer run PCBoard as I am writing a clone.... thanks MUCHO!!!! Ozz --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 809 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/07/94 4:27p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mike Nyman writes: MN> Hi Guys and gals. I have been trying to get productive for MN> the past month and a half and at this point I have very MN> little hair left in my head as I have been pulling it out by MN> the hand full. Here it is . I have tryed to get a processer MN> that will process .BAG files into something that I can MN> distribute to other fido nodes in the same way we send MN> Echomail. I have tried Gigo and found that I needed to loose MN> all of my memory managers and reset my system to run with a Strange .. what type of operating system are you running? Most of us running GIGO _do_ use a memory manager :-) I use it all the time to handle distributing newsgroups to approx 55 systems. MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and MN> an Internet address of my own. You do not have to route outbound traffic at all. You just need to configure the directories themselves, as though you were. They will remain empty. If you need assistance, mail me. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd 1.01.b1+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 810 To: LEE BONNIFIELD Date: 05/07/94 6:22a Subj: Re: feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LB|The $10 includes your right to hub the entire Fido backbone FIDONET.NA |and also FIDONET.NO and as much of the Fido filebone as you get from |Planet Connect; but there are additional restrictions on some of the |other services from elsewhere, eg Author Direct, weather, TV listings, |PCSITES. Thanks, Lee. I understood that. The guy was just interested in pulling Fido mail from me. However, after getting his phone bill for a remote local line, he's reconsidering. <g> Have a good one. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Natchez - Where the Old South Still Lives & Lives & Liv --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 811 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 05/07/94 10:11p Subj: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday May 03 1994, Craig Clark writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Craig! CC> I'm getting it from PC! It's in the FamilyNet mail bundles. I have no plans to toss all the bundles of a net I don't want to get when the echo I want (hobbies0 SHOULD be arriving via normal backbone channels (0000ffff.* bundles) Its absense is still silly imo. :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 812 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 05/08/94 12:00p Subj: ILLEGAL? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when 201/01 connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing. NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 813 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 05/08/94 2:14p Subj: ILLEGAL? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art! In a message to Boyd Goodwin <05/08/94> Art Mack wrote: AM> Hello Boyd! AM> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when 2 AM> connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing. Well I messed around and recompiled the node lsit and now it seems to work! weird...it was calling 1:3615/50......let me know if you get this one please. Art Mack NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 * WCE 1.5/2087 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL BENDER Number: 814 To: ALL Date: 05/07/94 6:13p Subj: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large amount. I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone. Thanks in Advance... ... Anything for Free, Is Worth what You Paid for It.... --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Rassi's Retreat - Green Bay, Wi - Supra V.32b/V.42b (1:139/570) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 815 To: STEVE ADAIR Date: 05/09/94 12:39a Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from > 4/28 > to 4/29!!! These messages are 5 to 6 days old! Is this temporary?? > Putting We have concluded that it is a problem with our provider and they are working on fixing it. They have to monitor it to see where the bottle-neck is. Hopefully we will see an improvement over the next week. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 816 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/08/94 11:30a Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Wednesday May 04 1994 23:02, Mike Nyman wrote to All: MN> to gate outbound and an Internet address of my own. Having and address of your own seems a good idea to me. MN> point where I must sit here for up to five hours and baby sit this MN> software while it processes the PCUSENET files into a message base when MN> getting things out of the message base is a crap shoot. HELP. Is there any MN> one that is using and processing thease files that can give me a hand MN> setting up this kind of system. Or at least point me at a peace of MN> software that Will do what it says it will with out having to rebuild my MN> entire system around it. Thanks . any help would make you a worshiped guru MN> of the online!!!<G> I have no idea what type of BBS software you use so this may not be a solution for you. I use Wilduucp from Online Computer Resources for use with Wildcat!. It includes a utility to convert BAGS into "munged" uucp type inbound files, and will simultaneously toss into Wildcat! message base and gate any or all areas into Fido style packets for distribution. It was designed to accomodate the "inbound only" Planet Connect or Pagesat satellite feeds, and send outbound to a standard domain such as a local provider. I use Squish, not Wildmail, to toss the gated packets as Wildmail is too slow to handle a full hub feed IMHO. OCR claims you need Wildmail but any flexible tosser such as Squish, QM, or Gecho can be configured to work with Wilduucp. Wilduucp itself does not distribute packets, it simply produces them to be tossed as normal inbound to your FTSC tosser. I'm sure there's probably a way to fool it to run without Wildcat as well. As I said, this is probably not a solution for you, but there is a package out there that does what you're looking for, and I understand that similar programs are coming out for other BBS software, although I'm not sure about FTSC gating capability. I had the same exact experience with GIGO. It set up OK, and seemed to do the trick, but couldn't be run on one of my BBS nodes on the LAN which requires memory managers, TSRs and all kinds of tricks to get everything else to run. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:218/801) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 817 To: NATE CHASE Date: 05/05/94 6:07p Subj: Lightning arrestor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer. NC>Boyd (et all), NC> Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed? ummm.... interesting: just how could one gaurantee that any device (even a granite boulder!) would function properly if hit by lightening?? === * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154 * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 818 To: KEN SHORT Date: 05/06/94 6:31p Subj: Need idea's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KS>Hi all, well I have just jumped on the Planet Connect Band wagon...I was KS>holding off until they got an OS/2 fix, but have just been told they are KS>having probs with the new dongle, they are beta testing...ARRRGGHHH... Oh KS>well...Now i need some idea's on what i should do to hook a dos box to my KS>OS/2 bbs machine...IE what is a good package to hook the 2 machines...A way KS>of telling my bbs machine to toos the planet connect stuff...and ANY other KS>info you think is helpful....Thanks in advance... KS> Have a gooder. KS> Ken Short 1:134/3200 Fido KS> You're welcome to freq here the file PLANCONN.ZIP , which is a history/info/etc of th OS/2 and PC problem ... Seems a fix is close at hand ..at least it's in beta... In summary, MOST users are completely unable to run PC on an OS/2 system .. Only anternative is to Lan the OS/2 machine (as server) to a dedicated dos machine which does the satellite thing ... Otherwise, wait ... ___ * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154 === * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 819 To: TOM TCIMPIDIS Date: 05/07/94 10:39a Subj: Dongle and os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TT> KBRight now the speculation is that a few OS/2 gurus have TT> cracked the KBsecurity in your dongle/software and are using TT> your product in KBan "irregular" (don't want to say TT> "illegal" <g>) way. We KBfurther speculate that Planet TT> Connect doesn't care if the KBsecurity has been cracked as KB>The contract I signed and which was accepted by PC allows modification KB>of the code for one's own use. It specifically prohibits KB>passing modified code to other people. Fair enough. You can't KB>tell me who has the hacked code because he/she can't give it to KB>me anyway. Can you tell me how to hack it myself? Something to KB>do with debug, disk editor and NOP instructions? This is intolerable: that there should be knowledge available to some which PC might be aware of which at the same time is unavailable to other os/2'ers who've invested in PC equipment, etc , and who cannot run it... ___ * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154 === * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JON ANDERSON Number: 820 To: PETER CONWAY Date: 05/07/94 10:48a Subj: Global connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PC> Why GLOBAL CONNECT? PC> ------------------- PC>Now let's just say you want to call during the day, unheard of right?? PC>WRONG! PC>If your currently using Plannet Connect or Pagesat to PC>recieve you mail and using "PRICEYNet" to send your mail back, then PC>let's just show you what you can save by going with Global Connect: PC> Price's compared on May 3, 1994 Not quite... You should have provided the full story: PC> GLOBAL CONNECT PRICEYNET PC> -------------- --------- PC>Setup Fee: $0.00 $50.00 PC>Domain Name: $40.00 $25.00 PC>Monthly Fee: $12.00 $6.00 and why was I charged $30/month, being a PC customer, too? PC>Hourly Connect Fee: $0.00 $4.00 PC>Long Distance Cost: $0.18/min* $0.24/min PC>Storage Fee: $0.00 $0.00 (soon to change) PC>Per meg charge: $0.00 $2.00/per meg after 1st PC>Seperate Personal Account PC>Included at NO charge: YES NO PC>Leased Line and PC>SLIP/PPP Support : YES NO PC>Dial-in 800 numbers : YES NO Your 800 number is not free: it costs users $0.12 per minute. PC>Support 7 days a week: YES NO PC> ------------ ------------- PC>Total Average yearly cost:$488.50 $722.50 Also, your signup agreement, at least for me, forced a 2month pre-pay (30 x 2 = 60) plus the $40 domain reg fee ... = $100 No real problem, but some might appreciate the accuracy... PC>* Global Connect is a registered trademark of Global Connect Inc. PC>Prices based on 2 - 30 minute day-rate calls per day for 365 days PC>at 14.4bps standard UUCP account access. That stipulation was never mentioned to me ... Did you give me an entirely different sort of account?? PC>Rates quoted by Global Connect are good ONLY for current Planet Connect PC>or Pagesat Customers. umm. Jon Anderson 'gas.com' , once ya finish the setup for me ... and pending your comments on the above ... ___ * MR/2 2.0 NR * Boston Gas BBS * 413-539-9834 * Fido 1:321/325 * Rime: 154 === * Boston Gas * 413-539-9834 * RIME:154 * FidoNet:1:321/325 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 GAS (#154) : * Anesthesia/Med/Sci/Engineering * --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM TAYLOR Number: 821 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 05/08/94 10:23p Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC -> JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know. -> -> Its a workin' Thanks, it only took me 2 months to get every thing set up. Shoot, I still don't have the File-Echos set up, or a program to handle the duplicate mail files that come in every day, but that is my next project(s). Thanks again. Jim Taylor --- WM v3.01/93-0902 * Origin: Rocky Mountain Rendezvous: Cheyenne WY (307-638-8506) (1:310/5.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL CLARK Number: 822 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 05/08/94 7:42p Subj: Re: Hobbies Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <May 07 17:12>, Dave Petrucci of 1:2600/161 writes: >in Net 100 went to Planet Connect to begin with. In the last >correspondence I had with Harvey Smith about the situation, Harvey was >considering yanking the HOBBIES echo out of FamilyNet and making it a >FidoNet originated echo, which would result in its traffic again >appearing over the satellite. >Ah....the games people play.... >:-) Bill, N100EC DP> Bill, DP> Why can't it be in both places at the same time... ? DP> Dave P. You'd have to ask the FamilyNet head, Bob Hoffman via netmail for an answer to that. He does not read this area. I think he also has a FidoNet address, but I don't recall what it is. :-) Bill --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: QwikCom Remote * St Charles MO (1:100/602.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 823 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 05/08/94 11:08p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ah well, just relieving some frustration. Hi Jason . that is what I was doing in the last message as well sorry if I offended you . > > 0.6 is the latest "official" version. If you want to try > 0.6, freq XSH_0_6.ARJ from here(actualy, I think the XSH I got it from your system . 2400 is a drag but I thought I should have a look. > file area in on Plannet Connect, so you might have it > already sitting on your system) and shoot me off some > netmail if you have problems, until I'm informed of > specific problems, I can't exactly fix them, now can I? :) I was the guy that sent you a 300k pcusenet file with 3 bag files in it . net mail that I sent with the file said that one of the bags was hanging the program but the others processed just fine . I waited for a week and had not heard back from you so I tryed all the other programs that I mentioned but none of them did what I needed it to do so I called you and downloaded .6 and gave it a try . All the problems I had with .4 I continued to have with .6 so I gave up completly and told all my points that what thay where SOL and thay would never see Internet out of my system again . At this point one of my points came to see me and asked me to try again with a little program that he found . So to shut the guy up I tryed it . To my suprise it made every thing work just fine . I run it on the bag files and it restores them to the standards that you are talking about . It takes the bags apart and scans for news groups that you specifiey and then repacks the bag file but only with news groups you wanted . there is also a config file that tells it what to put in the info spaces in the bag file when it repacks it. like TO: FROM: NEWSGROUPS: . It writes them in the message and them packs the message back in the bag. and stores the bag in a different directory. then I have XSH go to the processed bag files in the new directoies and process them . as the BAG files have had there ID lines rewriten and in the process only the news groups that I wanted are repacked thay are processed by XSH just fine and XSH at that point takes very little time to run . I had a look at the bag files that XSH had choked on and from what I could tell the only files it hung on where ones with one message in the bag that had been cross posted to ten or more areas and the news group names where more then 300 caricters long . I do not know if this was the problem but that is the only weard thing I saw in the bags that messed up. As for changes in version .6 none of them pertain to me . I am using XSH to toss the messages into *.MSG files and then thay are processed by Gecho so all I am using it for is sorting the messages and files them in the right directory long enough for gecho to come in and toss them out into mail bags for my points. When I got .6 I tryed to have it toss them into a hudson base but this still will not work in .6 . I am not sure if this was as a result of it not making it through all the message areas with out me having to reboot because XSH stoped on a bad bag or if it is something wrong with the code but every time I tryed it it nuked my message header file and I lost my whole message base (thank heavens for backups)<G>. I look forward to seeing wether or not you have any luck getting a handle on this problem Jason and if I can give you a hand with bugreports I will keep sending them. I would not give to much mind to the fools that say that " The programer must be terrible " . I don't see any of them writing better. As a mater of fact there are only about three or four programs out that are trying to do what XSH is trying. So just flip them the bird and keep on pluging . later Guy. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 824 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 05/08/94 11:37p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ozz > for going from *.BAG to *.PKT ... but you don't have to > have a ton of This is not what I am looking for. If you want to know what I dream about at night , It is Gecho and all its areamgr features, un packing and menu driven features . and lets see it able to handle BAG files as well as PKT files. That is the one thing that would save me a lot of work. As it is now I have to set up three config files by hand every time one of my points wants a new news group. > if you are > the 1st in your area the charge is only $60.00 a year ... > and yes our Now this is where I start to scratch my head. I have to pay you every year to run a product that I have never heard of and will not be able to try and see if it fits my needs ? As there are only two places in the world to get bag files (planet connect and one other sat. system) and this is the support echo for 50% of of the mentioned dist. sites it would stand to reason that if you had Beta tested this software some mention of it would have turned up here . As it has not I can only guess that this is no fully tested software and I and others here are going to have to hear a great deal more about this software before I am going to send my cash any where. .....Mike Nyman > tossers support areanames upto 255 characters - something > the otherguys > forgot. We also support direct interface to PCBoard, Hudson > Message > bases and GoldBase Message bases (squish and jam are at the > alpha > sites). And we now do Credit Cards :)... > > Send me netmail @ 1:18/201 > C ya... > > Don't just give me the bird, I want Internet too... <grin> > --- Info System Technology (c) '94 > * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} > (1:18/201) --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 825 To: JASON FESLER Date: 05/09/94 12:02a Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi again Jason I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in this echo for you for some time ago and never heard back from you so I was forced to give up on GIGO . I have never been able to get DOS4GW to work with dos 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and the DOC on DOS4GW was of no help at all . > Strange .. what type of operating system are you running? > Most of us running GIGO _do_ use a memory manager :-) I > use it all the time to handle distributing newsgroups to > approx 55 systems. > MN> 32 bit emulatior and I also need a gate to gate outbound and > MN> an Internet address of my own. > > You do not have to route outbound traffic at all. You just > need to configure the directories themselves, as though you > were. They will remain empty. > If you need assistance, mail me. This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed concerenes about not having an internet address and it beeing a required field. Have you any plans for an areamgr feature that would allow remote users to connect and disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the other incoming mail as well as the news groups. I am sorry for so many stupid questions at this late date but it has been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a good one Jason.later .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG ROSLER Number: 826 To: JIM TAYLOR Date: 05/07/94 6:43a Subj: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Hello From Cheyenne BY: Jim Taylor on Thu May 05 1994 11:13 pm You made it to Rio Rancho, New Mexico just fine. Greg --- Synchronet * Origin: In Your Face BBS! Rio Rancho, NM 505-891-1424/1425 (1:301/43) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 827 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/08/94 8:33a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to JACK WILLIAMS <05-06-94 10:14> BILL STARR wrote: BS> I have had some suggestions from others to do the following: BS> BS> P <Filename> 1:3615/50 BS> BS> This works to pass the message but creates mail packets back to BS> Planet BS> Connect and others. Then I have to go into Front Door Outbound BS> Sub-Dir BS> and delete all the packets created so they won't go back to PC. Any BS> ideas? I am not aware of what your tosser software is, but, have you tried it without the 1:3615/50 in each line??? Your tosser is not seeing that the mail is from 1:3615/50 and is tossing it back to him. BS> Also on the Genoloegy thingy, I have received a post card saying that BS> I could obtain a Starr Family newspaper free for a look-see. I sent it BS> back yesterday. Funny that you should mention it also. I think I will BS> subscribe as it is only $12 a year. Excellent idea, ..... were/are any of your folks from North Carolina???? Regards, Jack --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 828 To: JIM TAYLOR Date: 05/08/94 8:39a Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to All <05-05-94 23:13> Jim Taylor wrote: JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to the PC BBS, JT> and on to the rest of the world. If you see this let me know. Hi, Jim. You're reaching Fredericksburg, VA. We sure would like to have a Wyoming BBS in our IGA_Net<tm>... IGA_Net<tm> is the International Genealogy Association Network. It is a genealogy-only network which goes worldwide. By carrying genealogy on your board, you can assure that you develop at least a small core of serious users on the board. Please FREQ the file IGA-INFO.Z01 from 1:274/30 if you are at all interested. Here's a cordial welcome to you to join with us. Regards, Jack --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 829 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 05/08/94 6:03p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> Joe, DP> The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows.. DP> $139 - Internal DP> $159 - External DP> Dave P. Thanks Dave, I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't be compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes. Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 830 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 05/08/94 6:05p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ON> Call 1-800-822-8224 ... then (if I recall right the next two ON> menu option on the phone are 3 then 2 ...) but ask for the fax for ON> the28800's for 149.00 form the MNP people themselves Microcom! This ON> versiondoes not support the parallel interface, but who cares? The ON> 249 versionsupports parallel but only has class 1 fax (yuk). ON> enjoy the crackle of the baud! Thanks, I am going to order a few of them as soon as I find out the compatibility of them with other modems.. -Joe --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 831 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 05/08/94 10:09a Subj: Re: Unused Echomail Msgs Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH-> CW> I have a newer version of PCAREAs that I'm about to release. JH-> CW> It will search the designated BADMSG sub-dir and add those JH-> CW> to your AREAS.BBS for ya. It will also ; (comment) the ones JH-> CW> that are no longer shown in FIDONET.NA/NO, and at the same JH-> CW> time, add new passthru's. JH->Gosh...I _NEED_ this program <G>. Hope it will be coming to us via JH->Planet Connect. It's done, just need to work up some quick docs for it. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT HAPPEL Number: 832 To: LORI SMITH Date: 05/08/94 9:42p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Looking for verification that this message is getting out via Planet Connect. Thanks. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: The I.O. Board BBS <ASP> Anderson, IN V32b/HST (1:2255/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 833 To: ART MACK Date: 05/09/94 1:44p Subj: ILLEGAL? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art! Sunday May 08 1994 12:00, Art Mack wrote to Boyd Goodwin: AM> Hello Boyd! AM> AM> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when AM> 201/01 connects to you? Whats going on Boyd, the mail aint flowing. ^^^^^^ is this a Typo? AM> AM> NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 AM> AM> * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 AM> AM> -+- WM v3.10/92-0555 AM> + Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) Hmmm.. I could not find 1:201/01 in my Current FidoNet nodelist.. 1:201/1 without the /0 in front of the 1 was listed to your name.. Regards, George Vandervort - NET382 NEC ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 834 To: PAUL BENDER Date: 05/09/94 1:52p Subj: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Paul! Saturday May 07 1994 18:13, Paul Bender wrote to All: PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect PB> dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large PB> amount. I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect PB> customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing PB> the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone. PB> PB> Thanks in Advance... PB> PB> ... Anything for Free, Is Worth what You Paid for It.... PB> -+- FMail 0.96Γ PB> + Origin: Rassi's Retreat - Green Bay, Wi - Supra V.32b/V.42b (1:139/570) I just took a look at the HD on the Computer connected to the Satelite Dish. not counting the Space for MSDOS 5.0, or any files in my TOOLS/UTILITY directory.. Just the Planet Connect utilities, Plus the 15 Plus megs of NEWSGROUP Internet Bundles, and 18 megs of FILEBONE stuff, plus an average of 8 to 10 megs of the 700 plus FidoNet Backbone mail, not counting all the other stuff that comes in over the Satellite every day.. IMHO, a 40 meg drive is way to small.. a 60 meg drive might be big enough for the bare minimum.. but you would have to move 90 % of the stuff off of it as soon as it came in and optimize the drive often.. Also, it's been my experience that you need at least a 286/12 oe /16 mhz with 1 meg or more with a 16550AFN Uart Chip on the RS232, or your experience lots of CRC Errors on the Files/Mail Bundles received.. My setup uses two seperate computers.. a 386dx40 with a 345meg IDE connected to the Dish and all Files and Mail are then transfered from the 386 to my 486dx33 via a LAN setup and the mail bundles are then processed for delivery by my 486.. with has 2 345meg IDE HD's.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORAN Number: 835 To: DAVE CALAFRANCESCO Date: 05/08/94 7:14a Subj: Pc & desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No have you thought of trying UNIX ?? Unix is a great multiuser, multi-tasking operating system. I have unix on this machine they also use it where I work to run a database that tracks inventory and customer call histories. I am using SCO UNIX but there are many differnt flavors of unix available. With unix, you also have to make a choice of which SHELL you want to use. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. JOHN /s === * SPITFIRE v3.4 Data Terminal Ready BBS, Phoenix, AZ (602) 993-4753 * BCSUTI Version 1.3 * Data Terminal Ready BBS, Phoenix, AZ, (602) 993-4753 * PostLink(tm) v1.07 DATATERM (#1532) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 836 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/09/94 9:14p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >DP> The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows.. >DP> $139 - Internal >Thanks Dave, >I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't >be compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes. >Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out? >-Joe Joe, I haven't had any problems connecting with any of sort of modem..... yet... 8-) From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my experiences, the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with other V.FC modems... ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca, USR, Microcom...etc.. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 837 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/09/94 12:36p Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > are OLD when we get them... todays (5/4/94) messages are dated from from > 4/28 > to 4/29!!! These messages are 5 to 6 days old! Is this temporary?? > Putting BG> BG> We have concluded that it is a problem with our provider BG> and they are working on fixing it. They have to monitor it BG> to see where the bottle-neck is. Hopefully we will see an BG> improvement over the next week. This is something I have been wondering about myself. I have a question Boyd.. When I renewed my PC subscription last time, you mentioned that the newsgroups would be protected on the data stream in about a week, so I subscribed at that time. That was over three weeks ago, and they are still comming over for all to receive, yet I and probably many others are paying for a newsgroup subscription. Will our accounts be credited for this time delay in protecting the newsgroup feed? Another question.. If this bottleneck, time-lag problem persists at your newsgroup source, will you find another source? Week old mail isn't going to draw very many subscribers to the newsgroups. Cheers, Rob --- * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN PLEGGE Number: 838 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/09/94 4:20p Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Joe, I'm running a single computer system here with the satellite data receiver, Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom Deskporte FAST ES 28.8 modem. I haven't noticed any problems with other modems connecting to mine. There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom modems (one is the serial model, the other is parallel). Neither of them have reported any compatibility problems. --John * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: * The PC Net BBS * Radcliff, KY * (1:2450/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 839 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 05/09/94 5:33p Subj: unused echomail msgs w/Wi Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV->I use your Last release of PCAREAS All the time.. and it works great... GV->However, based on you comments about a New release that will comment out ar GV->that are not in FIDONET.NA/NO?? GV->how will this effect topic areas like K12-HWY and many other Areas such as GV->regional or local Net topics, that are not listed in FIDONET.NA/NO?? GV->Inquiring Minds want to know? :-) They would be placed in PCAREA.NA, which is a catch-all file for areas that don't appear in the FIDONET.* files. - or - You can also have it check any other *.NA files you specify in the control file. --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 840 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 05/09/94 5:33p Subj: netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EH->Yep! We did that. UNfortunately, today we found out that they'd typed it EH->ANOTHER net's address. (A typo that I make frequently so I fully understan EH->This may actually GO OUT! EH->All appropriate appendages crossed and re crossed. Got it! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 841 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/09/94 6:51p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi again Jason > I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in > this echo for you for some time ago and never heard > back from you so I was forced to give up on GIGO . I > have never been able to get DOS4GW to work with dos > 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and the DOC on DOS4GW was of no help Sorry for butting into the conversation, but what version of GIGO have you tried, and what processor are you running? I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime, and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it. I am now running under 7.04. What exactly is the problem? Are you swapping? TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS - Now With USR 28.8 V.FC on (815) 942-4403 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HENRY MOORE Number: 842 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/09/94 6:29p Subj: Service complaint Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, I'm not sure who's in charge of the Planet Connect company but I feel someone should be aware the disorganization concerning service. First, I greatly appreciated the extremely quick response in sending me a new LNB...called one afternoon and had the LNB the next morning...I was very impressed....sorry to say that didn't fix the problem. I called back the next day and was told that I needed a new KU band receiver. The problem, though, was that you (Planet Systems) didn't have any in stock and I'd have to wait till a shipment came in. The person I talked to didn't have any idea how long it would be and assured me that there would be no need to call back...as soon as one came in, it would be shipped out to me. Okay....I figured I'd not be a bother as I'm sure you were very busy with the new company. I waited a week and called back. I was then told something about the shipment being held up in the Canadian/US customs and it should be arriving within a few days. Okay, I've run a business before and understand backorders and other delays. I waited another week before calling. This time I was told there was absolutely no record of me needing a receiver. I'll let you guess how high my blood pressure got<grin>. I prey this is an isolated case. I'm sure you can imagine the hardship being without your service has caused me. On the otherhand, I certainly don't mind being sent a renewal notice quoting a single user price when I'm refeeding. Between poor service and underquoting the subscription, I'm surprised ya'll are still in business<grin>. Thanks for letting me vent some frustration and I look forward to a long association with Planet Connect. Mistakes can happen and I'm sure that's all it was. (I'll call and get the subscription boo-boo straighten out.) * OLX 2.2 * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a --- WM v3.10/92-0423 * Origin: Blackbeard's Tavern 803-294-9657 Greenville,SC (1:3639/3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY MORRIS Number: 843 To: JIM TAYLOR Date: 05/09/94 3:11p Subj: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Taylor wrote in a message to All: JT> Well, another try to see if I can get my mail back out to JT> the PC BBS, and on to the rest of the world. If you see this JT> let me know. Hi Jim, long time no type. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 844 To: JON ANDERSON Date: 05/10/94 11:28a Subj: Re: Dongle and os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > This is intolerable: that there should be knowledge available to some > which PC might be aware of which at the same time is unavailable to other > os/2'ers who've invested in PC equipment, etc , and who cannot run it... I have heard this since the beginning but have yet to see any broken version of our software. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 845 To: PAUL BENDER Date: 05/09/94 3:33p Subj: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect PB> dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large PB> amount. I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect PB> customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing PB> the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone. FidoNet EchoMail Backbone for my system is like this; Drive F: has 299 echomail conferences in a 110mb partition. Drive G: has 350 echomail conferences ina 110mb partition. I have about 45mb free at any given time on each drive. I pack the message bases nightly to keep only 7 days worth of mail. This is my system and your milage will vary, but I find it works well like this when I devote 220mb do just doing FidoNet Echomail. You could keep more or less days of mail and get differing results to fine tune to your needs. The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! (206) 863-5877/939-7876 --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 846 To: PAUL BENDER Date: 05/10/94 6:30a Subj: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On May 07 18:13 94, Paul Bender of 1:139/570 wrote: PB> The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet PB> Connect dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a PB> large amount. I would be interested in comments from current Planet PB> Connect customers on how much disk space is required for successfully PB> processing the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone. Hmm, that depends on how you're going to do the processing. I'd recommend dedicating a computer to the satellite dish -- have that computer's task only being sucking in data from the bird. You can then send the data that your "dish computer" gets to another computer via a network link or a serial cable null modem for processing. The amount of disk space you'll need on your "dish computer" is pretty trivial. If you delete files after they're sent off to your "processing computer" for processing, then if you keep things tidy you can get away with a 40 meg drive in your "dish computer." As far as the amount of disk space you'll need on your processing computer, this of course will depend on how many links you are feeding. You can figure this computer will be holding 5-10 megs of archived mail files (for planning purposes use the high figures), which will extract into 10-25 megs of *.PKT files during echomail processing. You'll then get anywhere from 5-15 megs of file-echos each day for processing. Gee, that adds up to quite a bit now, doesn't it?! :-) Figure on needing *at least* 60 megs or so to process mail and files, more if you're feeding a lot of downlinks. Of course, by using pass-thru areas for echomail conferences you can avoid having to carry everything on your hard drives, and you'll probably want to kill file areas quickly (there's a ton of "delete files older than X days" utilities out there). So you don't really need a whole lot of space over and above that 60+ megs, but like I said, if I were you I'd dedicated a machine to handling the dish traffic and figure at least 60 megs of disk space on another machine for processing the data. . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet edwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: CAPITALISM.SYS corrupted. Reboot social system (Y/y)? (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 847 To: BERT HAPPEL Date: 05/10/94 6:23p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On May 08 21:42 94, Bert Happel of 1:2255/10@fidonet wrote: BH> Looking for verification that this message is getting out via Planet BH> Connect. Well, you reached the woods in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont. And it didn't get here any other way 'cept through the dish! :-) . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet edwards@sol.wsyd.com --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: An EQUAL public education is a RIGHT, not a privilege. (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROSS Number: 848 To: BILL CLARK Date: 05/09/94 8:27a Subj: Re: Ilink Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Sounds like a config problem with your ACONFIG.SKY. No Ilink files have >wound up in the SKYDATA directory here, or in any of the directories below >SKYDATA. It happens when you didn't upgrade to the new Aconfig.sky that came over the bird. Chris --- SLMAIL v4.0 (#1352) * Origin: Evening Shade - Home of Sky Mountain. (1:167/565) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS ROSS Number: 849 To: PAUL BENDER Date: 05/09/94 10:37p Subj: Re: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >The network where I belong has begun to consider getting a Planet Connect >dish, but we've been told that the disk space needed is quite a large >amount. I would be interested in comments from current Planet Connect >customers on how much disk space is required for successfully processing >the typical Fidonet Message Backbone and Filebone. 452 meg devoted drive here. But you could probably get by with 150 to simply store the info in before you tossed it somewhere else. I've heard of systems with 85 meg drives. It all depends on what you keep and what you want to delete. Chris --- SLMAIL v4.0 (#1352) * Origin: Evening Shade - Home of Sky Mountain. (1:167/565) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 850 To: ROB NELSON Date: 05/10/94 6:58p Subj: Re: InterNet Mail delays?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rob! In a message to Boyd Goodin <05/09/94> Rob Nelson wrote: RN> would be protected on the data stream in about a week, so I subscribed at RN> time. That was over three weeks ago, and they are still comming over for RN> to receive, yet I and probably many others are paying for a newsgroup RN> subscription. Will our accounts be credited for this time delay in protec RN> the newsgroup feed? Same here, I didn't realise however that all could still get them for free! RN> Another question.. If this bottleneck, time-lag problem persists at your RN> newsgroup source, will you find another source? Week old mail isn't goi RN> draw very many subscribers to the newsgroups. yes, could we call it Stale Mail? its a bit long in the tooth! NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DARROW Number: 851 To: ALL Date: 05/09/94 8:53p Subj: Planet Connect and Macintosh Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone know if you can connect a Macintosh running Novalink Professional to Planet Connect??? Any leads whatsoever would be greatly appreciated!!! --- MacKennel 1.0 * Origin: Heart of the North BBS - NLP 3.1 (1:159/300.250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 852 To: JIM TAYLOR Date: 05/10/94 1:35p Subj: Re: Hello From Cheyenne Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Ozz Nixon <05-08-94 22:23> Jim Taylor wrote: JT> -> Its a workin' JT> JT> Thanks, it only took me 2 months to get every thing set up. Shoot, I JT> still don't have the File-Echos set up, or a program to handle the JT> duplicate mail files that come in every day, but that is my next JT> project(s). Jim, Send netmail to me, and I will gladly packup all my directories and utilities (its not that big), I have been fully automated now for about 5-6 months. I have written almost all the 'utilities' needed for making the flow smooth and more acurate. Glad to see another PC Dish in use! G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr. Info System Technology --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 853 To: JOE HAYES Date: 05/10/94 1:42p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No In a message to Ozz Nixon <05-08-94 18:05> Joe Hayes wrote: JH> Thanks, I am going to order a few of them as soon as I find out the JH> compatibility of them with other modems.. There are 5 or 6 BBSes locally with Microcom, 2-3 with Hayes and I think one Zoomer ... all but the zoom enjoy it. There are a couple USR 21600's in town also ... and everyone says they get good clean 21600 connects too... I think the local net went to using a VFC flag a couple weeks ago if you wanna netmail a couple for their opinions :) Its Net 362 <#1 hell bent net, next to nashville!> <grin>! Ozz --- Info System Technology (c) '94 * Origin: Fidonet (tm) & (c) Tom Jennings {via SPoSnB%} (1:18/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 854 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/10/94 7:31a Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mike Nyman writes: MN> Hi again Jason MN> I sent you net mail about this and I left a message in this MN> echo for you for some time ago and never heard back from you I replied to the netmail, I don't remember about the echomail - I don't regularly visit this echo, as I do not have Planet Connect yet. Chances are, that my netmail was undeliverable, as you are a point and never called back, and the brain-dead mail packer I am running right now doesn't understand that you should send crash netmail to the boss node instead. (Making my _own_ mail packer because of it, too, sigh). MN> so I was forced to give up on GIGO . I have never been able MN> to get DOS4GW to work with dos 6.2 and QEMM 7.03 and the DOC MN> on DOS4GW was of no help at all . Not a clue for you, on this one, especially since that is my exact setup over here. Make sure you have enough memory, is all I can say - you don't specify how much you have. GIGO wants (depending on setup) 650k-1300k of EMS/DPMI/VCPI/etc. Conventional memory doesn't count for much (it _is_ used, depending on setup, but not for the primary program or the message buffers). Here's my config.sys for QEMM.. DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS set loadhidata=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.RF DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ST:M RF DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP MN> This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed MN> concerenes about not having an internet address and it MN> beeing a required field. Have you any plans for an areamgr MN> feature that would allow remote users to connect and MN> disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the MN> other incoming mail as well as the news groups. I am sorry MN> for so many stupid questions at this late date but it has MN> been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a good MN> one Jason.later When you show me an internet standard for it, yes, I'll make you an areafix parser. Unfortunately, there _is_ no standard method for internet sites to request what they want. In addition, GIGO is only going to be a feed to your system, and not a full-fledge mail tosseer with downlinks, etc. Your normal fidonet software will have to handle the hubbing requirements if you are planning on distributing anything. If you want what I use for _my_ host, I'll be glad to give it to you - but it won't do you any good, nobody else in the world is using his software! (Yes, my setup is automated, but it requires a lot of custom work at each and every site for their specific setup, and only if _their_ host has an automated method of getting newsgroups..). Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd 1.01.b1+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 855 To: JON ANDERSON Date: 05/10/94 12:58a Subj: Lightning arrestor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jon Anderson wrote in a message to Nate Chase: JD>device in the coax; it can be bought from the Planet Connect JD>folks or probably any local satellite dealer. NC>Boyd (et all), NC> Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guarenteed? JA> ummm.... interesting: just how could one gaurantee that JA> any device (even a granite boulder!) would function properly JA> if hit by lightening?? I sell a UPS that guarantees that if your system is harmed by a "hit" they will replace it, up to a $25,000 limit..they are kinda pricey, but they havent had to replace any systems i have sold. about the Granite Boulder, i bet it would still be a boulder, even after it took a "hit" and still function as a bolder. b=>} --- * Origin:Galaxy Star Systems (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 856 To: MIKE LESTER Date: 05/11/94 10:18p Subj: Lightning arrestor Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Tuesday May 10 1994 00:58, Mike Lester wrote to Jon Anderson: NC>> Boyd (et all), NC>> Whats the price of your Arrestor and is it guaranteed? ML> JA>> ummm.... interesting: just how could one guarantee that JA>> any device (even a granite boulder!) would function properly JA>> if hit by lightening?? ML> ML> about the Granite Boulder, i bet it would still be a boulder, even ML> after it took a "hit" and still function as a bolder. b=>} ML> Heck.. here in Central TEXAS, we have some BIG Boulders... but if hit just right by a Bolt of lightening... they could be broken up into lots of pebbles? <grin> Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#7) * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat <tm> - 14.4k DS-HST v32bis (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 857 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 05/11/94 2:37p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Petrucci wrote in a message to Joe Hayes: >DP> The sysop prices for the ZOOM 28.8k's are as follows.. >DP> $139 - Internal >Thanks Dave, >I am very interested in purchasing 6 of these but kinda scared they won't >be compatable with other 14.4 & 28.8 modes. >Do you happen to know if the compatability problem has been worked out? >-Joe DP> Joe, DP> I haven't had any problems connecting with any of DP> sort of modem..... yet... 8-) DP> From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my DP> experiences, the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with DP> other V.FC modems... ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca, DP> USR, Microcom...etc.. my microcom has connected just fine to zoom, and hayes and USR, haven't tried the other two yet, however it took a little while to get it configured.. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 858 To: JOHN PLEGGE Date: 05/11/94 8:30p Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Plegge wrote in a message to Joe Hayes: JP> Joe, JP> I'm running a single computer system here with the JP> satellite data receiver, Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom JP> Deskporte FAST ES 28.8 modem. I haven't noticed any JP> problems with other modems connecting to mine. JP> There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom JP> modems (one is the serial model, the other is parallel). JP> Neither of them have reported any compatibility problems. do you have the problem with your microcom deskporte fast ES getting stuck onhook? what's your init string with that? --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ELVIS HARGROVE Number: 859 To: ART MACK Date: 05/10/94 11:15a Subj: ILLEGAL? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. N -> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log when -> 201/01 Hey Art, maybe your node is where they put OUR password! I think our mail is back ON again. ^..^ --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: BOO! Board Of Occult, Rio Grande Valley Texas (1:397/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RAY SNOW Number: 860 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/10/94 2:44a Subj: Re-zipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd: Last week there was a fair amount of spirited discussion regarding some RIME mail packets that had apparently been rezipped (altering the zip date/time) after receipt from Bonnie. This problem surfaced when some of the mail packets had corrupted zip headers, but the originals from Bonnie with the original file dates/times were clean and spotlessly good. Also, there was some debate on the single transmissions of the RIME zips and how to identify/handle "missing" mail packets in a sequence of 5-8 zip packets daily. Questions: 1. Has PC taken any steps to prevent any re-zipping/date alterations or other things which could alter the integrity of the RIME mail packets? 2. Would a second transmission of the RIME packets daily be an immediate option, to overlap and correct any "missing" situations? Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around the RIME mail in super-crucial mode. Your prompt response would be appreciated greatly. And I would be happy to convey its contents to others voicing these same concerns. Thank you. === * SLMR 2.1a * How do I set my laser printer to the 'stun' position? * Rocky Mountain Software Salt Lake City, Ut 801-963-8721 * PostLink(tm) v1.20 ROCKYMTN (#1384) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 861 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 05/10/94 8:00p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi David. > MN> to gate outbound and an Internet address of my own. > > Having and address of your own seems a good idea to me. As it also seams to me . But I was under the impesion that to get an address you must have an account with some one that has access and at present I have not found any one that I can afford to get access from in conjunction with the cost for LD. > I had the same exact experience with GIGO. It set up OK, > and seemed to do the trick, but couldn't be run on one of > my BBS nodes on the LAN which requires memory managers, > TSRs and all kinds of tricks to get everything else to run. Ya this is the problem that I had. I have the system so strangly set up that I have to be very carful what I run or it will fall Like a house of cards. Well I have it working now but I need to find a way to automate it so so I may be changing things. Thanks a lot for the sejestions David. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 862 To: BILL WOLF Date: 05/10/94 8:18p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sorry for butting into the conversation, but what version > of GIGO have you tried, and what processor are you running? > > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime, > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it. I am now > running under 7.04. What exactly is the problem? Are > you swapping? > > TakeCare, > Bill I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI as well . I do not know if this is a part of the problem. The thing is any software that I run with DOS4GW must be run in a clean computer. when running any of thease programs I must reboot or trying to run this program crashes my computer every time . All I can think of is that I do not have Qemm set up right to run this software or I am missing a flag for DOS4GW for prober operation. Ether way I found the doc wanting when I went looking for an answer. So in conclusion If you got it running at all You far beond where I ever got with this software. Enjoy the news groups. later .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 863 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 05/10/94 9:01p Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's from where I gathered the date problem.. :) Glad I could Help. Have you found an answer for this problem? > > Routed netmail..oh what wonderful reliability..<sigh> > That's why I've sent this via this echo instead of trying > to respond to the netmail cross post you sent me. Besides, You know I kind of thought that might be the problem. > > MN>the bag files that XSH had choked on and from what I could tell the > MN>only files it hung on where ones with one message in the bag that > MN>had been cross posted to ten or more areas and the news group names > MN>where more then 300 caricters long . I do not know if this was the > > XSH should be able to process 30 group names at 80 > characters a piece and 1K lines...In the PCUSENET.TXT file Sorry if this was a dead end but not being a programer or fermiliar with the code for XSH I saw this as the only noticable thing in the bags . I am glad to hear you found the bag I sent more informitive then I did. > I last got, none of the newsgroup names where over 50 > characters..so..I'd assumed it was safe..what would you > consider accceptable standards for that? (since, you > actualy see these things on a regular basis...) I do not think you would have a problem with this if all the names stay below 50 letters but I was concerened that the number of crossposts in one name field would carry this number well over 50 letters on a reguler bases. One internet user I saw the other day wile tossing mail crossposted his message to 27 different news groups. As most newsgroup names are about 10 letters long this name field was about 270 letters. > One thing to remember is that I'm just a node off of a hub, > single network, no downlinks, and at 2400 baud. I don't > get to do a lot of direct testing on what XSH can do, all > my specs come from..well..specs. Actual practice is a lot > of times radicaly different. Not a prob . I asume this is why we see you in here so much . got to check up on your baby. > > MN>When I got .6 I tryed to have it toss them into a hudson base but > MN>this still will not work in .6 . I am not sure if this was as a > > Uhh..I've never had a problem with hudson importing. > Remember, Hudson message base format only handles 200 So far I am just trying to run 20 areas and with the great volume out of the PCUSENET files it still takes about 2hours on a 386 25 > message areas, goldbase 512. If you where trying to import > into more than that..it'd barf, remember, I don't check if > the guy who made the config file was awake? :) Actualy, I > didn't add that titbit of information until the 0.6 docs(I > hadn't thought of it really) > MN>me having to reboot because XSH stoped on a bad bag or if it is > MN>something wrong with the code but every time I tryed it it nuked my > MN>message header file and I lost my whole message base (thank heavens > > If it'd locked up and you rebooted, yes, it'd more than > likely trash the header file, XSH keeps those things open > as long as possible and > it is buffered read/writes. So this has been the major problem I have been having with Hudson base configuration. keeping the Hudson base open for 2+ hours is not only dagerous but it also makes the message base unacesable to my bbs software one the other computer in the otherside of the network as a result my bbs is down for 2+ hours so I think I will have to stick with *.msg areas. Later Jason. .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 864 To: JASON FESLER Date: 05/11/94 7:20p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason > have Planet Connect yet. Chances are, that my netmail was > undeliverable, as you are a point and never called back, Sorry but I write all my mail on my point system so that I do not take time away from my users . But I am 120 as well as 120.1 > and the brain-dead mail packer I am running right now > doesn't understand that you should send crash netmail to > the boss node instead. (Making my _own_ mail packer > because of it, too, sigh). > Not a clue for you, on this one, especially since that is > my exact setup over here. Make sure you have enough > memory, is all I can say - you don't specify how much you > have. GIGO wants (depending on setup) 650k-1300k of This is probably the problem right here . I have four megs in the computer that tosses the mail and 2megs in the bbc computer . and with the number of tsr's and casches running in each computer there is no room to run a program that is that memory intensive. Thank you very much for explaining that as I was begining to think that my computer was way off standard. I just need some more memory.( know where I could get some 4meg simms CHEEP! ) <GRIN> Well the system I have is working for now but I will keep GIGO in mind if I get some more memory . Thanks for the info Jason. Later .....Mike Nyman > EMS/DPMI/VCPI/etc. Conventional memory doesn't count for > much (it _is_ used, depending on setup, but not for the > primary program or the message buffers). > > Here's my config.sys for QEMM.. > > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS > set loadhidata=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.RF > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ST:M RF > DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT > rem DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /RF C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS > SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP > > MN> This is the question I asked about last time when I expresed > MN> concerenes about not having an internet address and it > MN> beeing a required field. Have you any plans for an areamgr > MN> feature that would allow remote users to connect and > MN> disconnect there own news groups and it to process all the > MN> other incoming mail as well as the news groups. I am sorry > MN> for so many stupid questions at this late date but it has > MN> been a long time now since I had a look at GIGO.Have a good > MN> one Jason.later > > When you show me an internet standard for it, yes, I'll > make you an areafix parser. Unfortunately, there _is_ no > standard method for internet sites to request what they > want. In addition, GIGO is only going to be a feed to your > system, and not a full-fledge mail tosseer with downlinks, > etc. Your normal fidonet software will have to handle the > hubbing requirements if you are planning on distributing > anything. > > If you want what I use for _my_ host, I'll be glad to give > it to you - but it won't do you any good, nobody else in > the world is using his software! (Yes, my setup is > automated, but it requires a lot of custom work at each and > every site for their specific setup, and only if _their_ > host has an automated method of getting newsgroups..). > > Jason Fesler > jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com > --- timEd 1.01.b1+ > * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 865 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/10/94 6:13a Subj: U'NI Net Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Boyd! Have you given any thought to my suggestion of updating LEDGE.QWK so it's not almost 2 days old when we get it via the satellite? Thanks for considering. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAC BRYANT Number: 866 To: ALL Date: 05/10/94 6:17a Subj: Trashed Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know why this would occur randomly on about 2 files daily? ALL ] Last File:0000FFFF.MO5 Blocks:00894 Errors:00000 Status: TCH I keep my satellite hard drive defragged. Besides it has some 550meg free. It seems a shame to have to go through another 6 hours of stuff to get that one file. A handle on this would be much appreciated. Thanks. .\\ac * QMPro 1.02 49-6919 * Hobbits Network with Tolkien Ring Adapters --- WM v3.11/93-0070 * Origin: Trinity BBS * Natchez, MS * (601) 442-5978 * (1:3632/42) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON BOSMAN Number: 867 To: JACK WILLIAMS Date: 05/06/94 10:50p Subj: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What this software does is this: With the 703=ON, the program > exits to PCSKY.BAT after the end of the final Fido mail file. > PCSKY.BAT calls EXTRACT.EXE. > EXTRACT.EXE checks your BBS to see what message echoes you have on > the board and extracts just those messages from all the mail > files. It discards all other messages in which you have no > interest. This process saves me many *hours* each day! After the > extraction, the tosser is called and traffic is tossed to your > board and downlinks. > I have not converted the extract program to shareware, but might > do that if a number of people need it. Can your program work without BBS software. I am using FrontDoor non-comercial and FastEcho to handle mail which I currently pick up rom another site which pays to refeed. Things change, but I currently don't want to have BBS software up. (I prefer to understand my system, rather then just operate it) It would be great to not have to toss ALL the mail just to get the echo's I read. --- * Origin: Urban Homesteader * 7pm to 7am * East Lansing, MIchigan (1:159/240) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY EDWARDS Number: 868 To: RAY SNOW Date: 05/12/94 6:05p Subj: Re-zipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On May 10 02:44 94, Ray Snow of 1:105/285 wrote: RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode. This is interesting. I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at PC handle this. For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our first and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail. My system simply tosses the Rime mail into the bit bucket. Boyd obviously has his hands full dealing with two groups who in many ways have different priorities. Sort of makes me glad I'm not in his shoes... :-) . Randy BBS +1-802-626-4103 (V.FC) FidoNet 1:325/806 1:325/805 InterNet edwards@sol.wsyd.com --- * Origin: SOL * A MILITANTLY public domain kind of BBS. (1:325/806) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL BENDER Number: 869 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 05/11/94 12:39p Subj: Disk Space Needed? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Vandervort wrote in a message to Paul Bender: GV> I just took a look at the HD on the Computer connected to GV> the Satellite Dish. not counting the Space for MSDOS 5.0, or GV> any files in my TOOLS/UTILITY directory.. Thanks for the informative reply, George....it's appreciated --- FMail 0.96Γ * Origin: Rassi's Retreat - Green Bay, Wi - 414-391-1559 (1:139/570) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 870 To: ALL Date: 05/12/94 9:13p Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am wondering if anyone else is having the problems that I am. I am using Gomail as my tosser to a Wildcat BBS. I have the areas.bbs set up as follows: 351 GENEOLOGY 1:3615/50 P AUTOMOTIVE 1:3615/50 352 ATARI_ST 1:3615/50 It seems that if I put a planet connect node number behind the echos that are tossed, it builds packets to go back to them. On the pass thrus it is OK. If I leave the planet connect node number off, then whenever someone leaves a message in that echo, the program would not know where to return it, is that correct? It would seem to me that the messages coming from Planet Connect have no Seen-Bys in them so the program does not know not to return them to Planet Connect. Anyone who has worked with Go-Mail and Wildcat and Areas.bbs please give me a hand. Bill --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0313] * Origin: United We Stand America (602)459-0013 (1:309/51) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 871 To: RAY SNOW Date: 05/13/94 2:00a Subj: Re: Re-zipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 1. Has PC taken any steps to prevent any re-zipping/date alterations > or other things which could alter the integrity of the RIME > mail packets? Yep. I found the problem that caused those "3" bundles to be bad and have rectified it. > Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full > cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity > is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk > files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around > the RIME mail in super-crucial mode. Question. What makes RIME any more special than FIDO, or ROSENET, or UNINET, or INTELECT? Your Admin wanted them to be added during the day. We did not (and still dont) have the uplink program setup for adding files on the fly. We do not uplink from here. We have to send everything via landline to the uplink. We have no way of knowing how many megs we will be sending a day so it is hard to tell you "Your files will be going over at 8 am and at 8 pm for any new files sent in during the day." Files were added at 8 pm on the 11th and only went over the sat at 1:30 am on the 12th. Did you get them? Not everyone (in rime) that uses our system is receiving 24 hours a day. Has your admin taken this into concideration? Has your admin told you all what we had to do to be allowed to send RIME mail over the satellite? Has your admin told you how we bent over backwards to make changes for them and then they go and make the files available thru FTP on the internet? There goes your security. We are doing our best here to make everything work for everybody. We have problems and we are working on fixing them. By doing things to suite RIME we have to be very carefully that we dont screw things up for everone else. I appreciate your ideas and will follow up on them. ...Boyd --- DB 1.58/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CURTIS COLEY Number: 872 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 05/09/94 9:14p Subj: Link test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF>KF> FF> Picked up Novell DOS 7.0 a few weeks back, added some LAN cards and MF>KF> FF> DESQview/X 2.0, and I am one very *HAPPY* camper! MF>I don't think that Foxy has answered, but we were previously running MF>regular DV on the machine and whenever we tossed mail in the MF>other window, we got errors in the PC window. With DVX that MF>doesn't happen. Also, we toss the mail on another machine & MF>pulling a few meg of mail bundles while the mail is still MF>coming in does _not_ cause errors in the current file. CC> Just out of curiousity, I was wondering if you could help me out CC> with a few questions. I am getting ready to set up a BBS on a CC> Novell 3.12 Network, and am ordering PC next week. Could you CC> please recommend any software, mailtosser, or whatever that would CC> ease my transition into this. I am an absolute novice when it CC> comes to getting my mail in this manner. I will be running CC> 10 nodes under DesqView and or OS/2. Thanks in advance.. Curtis Coley === * SLMR 2.0 * On a clear disk you can seek forever * TSCNET * Silverdale/Seattle (206)692-2388 v32bis * 22 Nodes * PostLink(tm) v1.20 TSCNET (#1607) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB WATSON Number: 873 To: JOHN PLEGGE Date: 05/11/94 8:50p Subj: Microcom/spitfire/pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JP> I'm running a single computer system here with the satellite data JP>receiver, Spitfire v3.4, and a Microcom Deskporte FAST ES 28.8 JP>modem. I haven't noticed any problems with other modems JP>connecting to mine. JP> There are two other SF BBS's in my area running Microcom modems (one JP>is the serial model, the other is parallel). Neither of them JP>have reported any compatibility problems. By chance do you have the phone number for Microcom? I'm interested in getting some of their modems. Thanks! Bob === * DeLuxe 1.26b #1134s * The TAO BBS - Mercerville,NJ - (609) 587-2672 * The TAO BBS * Mercerville,NJ * (609)587-2672 * USR Dual Standard * PostLink(tm) v1.11 TAO (#1377) : RelayNet(tm) --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems * Oregon * RIME <=> P_Connect Gate (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 874 To: ELVIS HARGROVE Date: 05/12/94 11:19p Subj: ILLEGAL? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> *@ORIGIN :BOO! Board Of Occult McAllen Tx. -> -> Since april 18th been getting an Ilegal connect message in the log -> -> 201/01 -> -> Hey Art, maybe your node is where they put OUR password! -> -> I think our mail is back ON again. You mean you lost yours as well on April 18th?????? --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS Lafayette IN, 317-447-9653 nfe.com (1:201/70.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORI SMITH Number: 875 To: JACK WILLIAMS Date: 05/04/94 11:27p Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW*>Hi, Bill. I have written some software that extracts what your board needs JW*>from the message packets. If you are interested, please let me know. Hello Jack, Caught your message here and I am interested in the software. If ya would pass the info on, i'll be sure and FREQ it from you. Thanks alot ... +Lori+ * OLX 2.1 * We are the music makers, we are the dreamers of dreams. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: OLX 2.1 * We are the music makers, we are the dreamers o (1:2255/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LORI SMITH Number: 876 To: DAVID LIERMAN Date: 05/05/94 6:35p Subj: Wildcat And Pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL*>David Lierman 1:2255/90 PITA BBS DL*> * Origin: PITA BBS Anderson, IN (1:231/550.0) (1:2255/90) Hello David :-) Just wanted to let you know that it only took 3 days to get down the road!<VBG> I've seen several folks say it takes almost a week for them to get someplace close... oh well...<G> And since your here, might want to peek at your origin line... +Lori+ * OLX 2.1 * -=Lori Smith=- WildNet(tm) Policy Admin Member --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: OLX 2.1 * -=Lori Smith=- WildNet(tm) Policy Admin Member (1:2255/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 877 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 05/10/94 4:06p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> Joe, DP> I haven't had any problems connecting with any of sort DP> of modem..... yet... 8-) DP> From what I've seen in the ZOOM echo and from my experiences, DP> the ZOOM 28.8k's connect just fine with other V.FC modems... DP> ie.. Hayes, Supra, Zoom, Boca, USR, Microcom...etc.. DP> Dave P. Thanks Dave, Sounds like I will be purchasing a few in the near future.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 878 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 05/11/94 4:04p Subj: Re: Is It Me???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ON> There are 5 or 6 BBSes locally with Microcom, 2-3 with Hayes ON> andI think one Zoomer ... all but the zoom enjoy it. There are a ON> couple USR21600's in town also ... and everyone says they get good ON> clean 21600connects too... ON> I think the local net went to using a VFC flag a couple weeks ON> ago if you wanna netmail a couple for their opinions :) Are you telling me that the sysop's with zoom's don't like them? I was under the opinion that zooms where "loved by all" <g>.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/PC System/2.1gig 11 CD's (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 879 To: DON BOSMAN Date: 05/12/94 11:35a Subj: Re: Link Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Jack Williams <05-06-94 22:50> Don Bosman wrote: DB> Can your program work without BBS software. Yes, all you would need to do is create an ASCII file which contains the names of all the echoes you currently want to receive--one echo per line. DB> It would be great DB> to not have to toss ALL the mail just to get the echo's I read. That's why I wrote it, Don, to get around tossing *all* that mail just to get the ones I wanted. Now, if we just could get someone to modify the satellite program to *stop* it from writing to disk *all* of the stuff coming down from the bird...and *only* write the things which one wants.... Have you noticed that *everything* is written to disk; and then apparently deleted after being written if it is not in your list for saving??? This works havoc on the disk drive mechanism--very needlessly. All they would have to do is just bypass the disk writing on all that stuff that one hasn't requested for storing.... Have you noticed this???? Regards, Jack --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WILLIAMS Number: 880 To: ALL Date: 05/12/94 9:17p Subj: International Genealogy Association Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I extend a cordial invitation to all SYSOPs to take a look at the IGAMAIL.Z## packet (in the \GALAXY subdirectory).... Therein you will find an information packet on IGA_Net<tm>. By carrying genealogy on your board, you are guaranteeing that you will develop a core group of serious users. It would be hard to find as friendly a group as a bunch of genealogy researchers. Why not take a look at the info packet.... and, if you are interested, complete the membership application and return it via direct netmail to 1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return netmail and should/could be operating within a day. Come join with us.... Regards, Jack Williams Administrator International Genealogy Association and International Genealogy Association Network (IGA_Net<tm>) --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Jack's Emporium Genealogy! (703)373-8215 (1:274/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 881 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/12/94 8:51p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN> > I've been running GIGO under 6.2, 7.03 for quite sometime, MN> > and haven't had any problems whatsoever with it. I am now MN>I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI MN>as well . I do not know if this is a part of the problem. The MN>thing is any software that I run with DOS4GW must be run in a Yeah, I don't know about running it under Lantastic. I do know I've had good success with running it under Netware Lite.. I'd play around with QEMM, and make sure you enable EMS. That's all the other help I can offer you.. Try netmailing Jason about it. He's as helpful as one can get! TakeCare, Bill ... To reform a man, begin with his grandmother. --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI Systems - NOW With USR 28.8k V.FC! (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANNY DANIEL Number: 882 To: ALL Date: 05/12/94 10:14a Subj: C-Band Receivers Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! I have read in this echo of several having their ku band receivers fail. I know one sysop who is on his third one. What I want to know is if the c-band receivers are failing also. If you are running a c-band let me know. Also has anyone done any comparisons on pros or cons between using c or the ku. I am waiting on a c-band to be delivered now but delivery has been pushed back another week. I hope to be on the bird next week. Thanks DD --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Pride of the Plains BBS Floydada, TX 806-983-6133 (1:19/166) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE NYMAN Number: 883 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 05/13/94 4:09p Subj: Re: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason > MN>wile tossing mail crossposted his message to 27 different news > MN>groups. As most newsgroup names are about 10 letters long this name > > That'd be pushing my setup... :) I guess I need to expand > a lot. I saw another one last night that had 500 letters in the NEWGROUPS: line as some one crossposted it to 32 areas. > > MN>So far I am just trying to run 20 areas and with the great volume > MN>out of the PCUSENET files it still takes about 2hours on a 386 25 > Eeewwwwwhhhh! For just 20 areas, you let it sit there for > 2 hours? I hope they are good conferences.. :) But, > Hudson import doesn't work? that is nothing yesterday the mail run of PCUSENET files was 25 megs packed allmost 700 bag files that need to be processed. I started processing it at 5pm and it finished at 9pm ( Just to give you some Idea of the Volume that goes through) for 20 areas or 200 areas you still have to through all 25megs of mail. > MN>So this has been the major problem I have been having with Hudson > MN>base configuration. keeping the Hudson base open for 2+ hours is > MN>not only dagerous but it also makes the message base unacesable to > MN>my bbs software one the other computer in the otherside of the > > Yuppen, that'd do it.. :) I could set up a "slow mode" or > something, that'd open/close the files with each message if > you'd like. > Ya for this much mail all I realy need is a program like XSH that just reads the bag files and fires the titles that apear in a control file out into *.msg format and then trash the rest . the only problem with *.msg is that I need to set up a director for each area . as I have now taken things up to 40 areas things have started to slow down though as each file needds to be writen to the disk as it finds one.later .....Mike Nyman --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: DreamTime Sysop's Point, Saskatoon SK., Canada (1:140/120.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY TIMBERMAN Number: 884 To: JACK WILLIAMS Date: 05/13/94 4:30p Subj: International Genealogy A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JW>Why not take a look at the info packet.... and, if you are interested, JW>complete the membership application and return it via direct netmail to JW>1:274/30. You will be issued an IGA_Net<tm> node number by return netmail JW>and should/could be operating within a day. Do you do Fido style mail using FidoNet node numbers? I don't do other zones... it is a waste of time, unnecessary and has proven to be undependable. But would like to carry the echomail areas using FidoNet technology. Roy Timberman 1:280/1 NEC * 1st 1.11 #106bt * I saw the light! It hurt my eyes. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c] * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 885 To: RANDY EDWARDS Date: 05/13/94 1:56p Subj: Re-zipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE> RS> is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk RE> RS> files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around RE> RS> the RIME mail in super-crucial mode. RE> RE> This is interesting. I'll be curious to see how Boyd and the folks at PC RE> handle this. For myself, and, logically, people who I do mail with, our first RE> and foremost concern is the FidoNet mail. My system simply tosses the Rime RE> mail into the bit bucket. Let RIME fit in the picture, not all of us bend to let them have their way. There is plenty of room for them, but not at the expense of delaying the rest of us. Besides, I like you just use the K:\NUL/ to send it right on it's way and never touch my drive. :) The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! (206) 863-5877/939-7876 --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 886 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 05/13/94 6:38p Subj: Re: Re-zipping Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > Suggestion: Transmit all mail net packets/files thru TWO full BG> > cycles. Then transmit the other "regular" files. Mail integrity BG> > is my *first* and *foremost* concern. I delete most of the junk BG> > files and my reasons for use of your PC services focuses around BG> > the RIME mail in super-crucial mode. BG> BG> Question. What makes RIME any more special than FIDO, BG> or ROSENET, or UNINET, or INTELECT? Your Admin wanted BG> them to be added during the day. BG> By doing things to suite RIME we have to be very BG> carefully that we dont screw things up for everone else. Thank you for saying this! It was long overdue. Why break other things just so that RIME can come on-line. If the dish feed and the admin rules needed to transport it is too much, have the nodes pick it up via FTP. Quicker and it leaves the mail not being imported problem back onto the admin of that net, and not on PC's shoulder as to why it didn't get sent out the minute they got it. :) Everything is working, fit RIME into the picture, don't fit the rest of us to suit RIME. No offense against RIME, but every net has to cooperate in the moving of the mail via this medium and not make accommodations for any one network. Off of my soapbox and I will go into my little world now. <g> The Racer's Edge Network Delivery System * TRENDS! (206) 863-5877/939-7876 --- * RoseReader 2.50* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'j' * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 887 To: BILL STARR Date: 05/14/94 12:04a Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BS} I have the areas.bbs set up as follows: BS} 351 GENEOLOGY 1:3615/50 BS} P AUTOMOTIVE 1:3615/50 BS} 352 ATARI_ST 1:3615/50 The above should work fine. BS} It seems that if I put a planet connect node number behind the echos BS} that are tossed, it builds packets to go back to them. BS} On the pass thrus it is OK. BS} If I leave the planet connect node number off, then whenever someone BS} leaves a message in that echo, the program would not know where to BS} return it, is that correct? In a sense, yes. GoMail looks at any new messages and checks the Seen-bys on each message. If there is no 1:3615/50 in the seen-by, and your areas.bbs is set up as above, GoMail will export that message. GoMail will create a packet for 1:3615/50 containing a copy of the new message. BS} It would seem to me that the messages coming from Planet Connect have no BS} Seen-Bys in them so the program does not know not to return them to BS} Planet Connect. That would cause the problem. The messages come in here with the 1:3615/50 in the seen-bys. Are you by chance stripping the seenbys off when importing the messages? You might try saving the SEENBY lines in the BBS message. That will allow you to check if 1:3615/50 is in the seenby. In GoEdit, under Mailer, near the bottom, you can say Yes to "Save SEENBY lines in BBS". I assume you have 1:3615/51 configured as an alias, too. Hope this might help. Dean * WCE 1.5/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream BBS * Peoria,IL * (1:232/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 888 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 05/13/94 11:22a Subj: Microcom/Spitfire/PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Guy, 11 May 94, 20:30, Guy VanDell wrote to John Plegge: GV> do you have the problem with your microcom deskporte fast ES getting stuck GV> onhook? It's happened to me with at least three different brands using the unaltered Rockwell chipset. I've reported it to Zoom and Microcom and they are supposed to be working with Rockwell on the problem. --- Squish v1.10 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 889 To: MIKE NYMAN Date: 05/13/94 4:47p Subj: Tossers for .BAG's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MN->I didn't want to alarm you Bill . I am running Lantastics AI as well . I do MN->know if this is a part of the problem. The thing is any software that I run MN->with DOS4GW must be run in a clean computer. when running any of thease MN->programs I must reboot or trying to run this program crashes my computer ev MN->time . All I can think of is that I do not have Qemm set up right to run t MN->software or I am missing a flag for DOS4GW for prober operation. Ether way MN->found the doc wanting when I went looking for an answer. So in conclusion I MN->you got it running at all You far beond where I ever got with this software MN->Enjoy the news groups. later I found that with DV, I had to setup my task like this: On the first page: Memory Size (in K): 290 On the advanced settings: Maximum Program Memory Size (in K)..: 640 Maximum Expanded Memory Size (in K): 0 Runs just fine here in task 4. When I tried giving it EMS, it wouldn't run! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LIERMAN Number: 890 To: LORI SMITH Date: 05/14/94 5:46a Subj: Wildcat And Pconn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Lori, It look's like the connection is very stable so far we have not run iinto any big problems with this connection. But it does take a lot of time to keep it running soomth. David --- WM v3.11/92-0642 * Origin: PITA BBS Anderson, IN (1:231/550.0) (1:2255/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES JOHNSON Number: 891 To: ALL Date: 05/15/94 1:38a Subj: Pc & The Far East Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I heard a rumor that Planet Connect is working on getting connectivity with the Far East. I am the NEC for South Korea and the chance for getting relatively cheap echos into country is something I cannot let slip by! Has anyone heard this rumor and know if it has any basis in fact? Thanks much in advance! --- xMail 1.00 * Origin: The Expatriate's Retreat /Seoul, S. Korea\ (6:760/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL STARR Number: 892 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 05/14/94 8:40a Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> That would cause the problem. The messages come in here with the -> 1:3615/50 in the seen-bys. Are you by chance stripping the -> seenbys off when importing the messages? You might try saving -> the SEENBY lines in the BBS message. That will allow you to -> check if 1:3615/50